If the Feds Won't Do It...

[nevergaveitathought]

your points (?) fall void

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

your points (?) fall void

You are a Tea Bagger....very few of you folks are logicial.

My problem was getting into a discussion with ya'll. You are like the Global Warming cats. Just a different stripe.

You say you are for smaller government but do NOT want to cut you own GOVERNMENT benifits!

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

Check out my links below, not sure what happened last time. Nothing to hide on my part.

thats how i took RK's comment

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

thats how i took RK's comment

Of course you did...

Tea Party people are like the nuts in the nut house (on this subject). Of course you all think yourself sane.

You two don't want links or logic, you want to harken back to the 1770's when everything was perfect! lol

[WTF]

Look, I'm like atlcomedy. I think the movement has good intentions. But they are like a drunk trying to tell a cig smoker the evils of smoking. Worse still, that they will not pay for their cancer treatment yet cry like a baby if the cig smoker wants to cut Cirrhosis of the liver funding. In other words, you cats are talking out your ass and don't like when we tell ya your breath stinks!

[dirty dog]

Linear thinking is for simple minds.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by WTF

In other words, you cats are talking out your ass and don't like when we tell ya your breath stinks!

Good thing you are first in line.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by dirty dog

Linear thinking is for simple minds.

I agree

Originally Posted by WTF

I admit that I am not linear at times and am just smart enough to know why. !

But not knowing WTF ones thought process or even why one thinks like they do is for even simpler minds!

Originally Posted by Ansley

Good thing you are first in line.

Now , now lil lady, we gents are having a discussion on politics. Nutn to worry your pretty little head over!

[Rudyard K]

ATL, I couldn't agree more with your post. There is a finite amount of money. And everything...yes everything...needs to be looked at on a cost/benefit basis. Of course, there will be differences of opinion on the benefits of certian things...and WTF's bitch'n about the war machine should not be excepted. But a reasonable analysis of alternative outcomes for failure to act must also be contained in the discussions.

And IMHO, brash, one conclusion analysis, falls well short of intelligent discussion.

BTW WTF, if you look at the poll...the percentages of "all respondents" related to the "lower tax versus reduce deficit" query were really not much different than the Tea Party. Your blogger and you failed to mention that fact. It would appear, at least in that instance, the Tea baggers are no more idiotic than the general public. Could it be that you and the blogger were trying to sell a position without considering all the facts? Any numbnut can sling mud (you've proven that). It takes a bit more mental acuity to really come to an answer for most everyone.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

. But a reasonable analysis of alternative outcomes for failure to act must also be contained in the discussions.

And IMHO, brash, one conclusion analysis, falls well short of intelligent discussion.

RK, you act as if I have never read a reasoned yea or nay on going to war or the cost of keeping up a war machine. Who it benifits the most yadayadayada.

Besides we are not going to change anyones mind with these discussions. We are one upping each other. Let's not forget the purpose of this forum. Don't go getting all uppity on me!

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

BTW WTF, if you look at the poll...the percentages of "all respondents" related to the "lower tax versus reduce deficit" query were really not much different than the Tea Party.

And you are missing the point....these Tea Party folks THINK they are some unique breed but upon further review they are just like the normal American. They don't want to pay shit in taxes yet they do not want any services by the government to them cut. Just like ever other ill informed citizen.

Which makes my and the CONSERATIVE bloggers point. The Tea Party folks are the real numbnuts! They freaking think they are special!
""Smaller government , More Benefits to ME!"
Outta be their motto!

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

. Could it be that you and the blogger were trying to sell a position without considering all the facts? Any numbnut can sling mud (you've proven that). It takes a bit more mental acuity to really come to an answer for most everyone.

I have come with an answer....across the board cuts. Everyone tighten their belts. You and your ideologue Tea Dumpers can't seem to grasp that concept. Thus you are no different than the people that have bloated government in spending regards. Oh you want to spend on what you think justifiable. Problem is, so does everyone else.

[Rudyard K]

Originally Posted by WTF

RK, you act as if I have never read a reasoned yea or nay on going to war or the cost of keeping up a war machine. Who it benifits the most yadayadayada.

Not from you.

Originally Posted by WTF

Besides we are not going to change anyones mind with these discussions. We are one upping each other. Let's not forget the purpose of this forum. Don't go getting all uppity on me!

Not uppity WTF. Just because those are your motivations...doesn't mean it is everyones.

Originally Posted by WTF

And you are missing the point....these Tea Party folks THINK they are some unique breed but upon further review they are just like the normal American. They don't want to pay shit in taxes yet they do not want any services by the government to them cut. Just like ever other ill informed citizen.

Which makes my and the CONSERATIVE bloggers point. The Tea Party folks are the real numbnuts! They freaking think they are special!
""Smaller government , More Benefits to ME!"
Outta be their motto!

Just because someone does not know how to articulate their position, doesn't make their position wrong. It just means they can't support it. I can't prove how gravity works...but I damn sure know it there. There's plenty of idiots who have been right. Hell, I've seen you be right before.

Originally Posted by WTF

I have come with an answer....across the board cuts. Everyone tighten their belts. You and your ideologue Tea Dumpers can't seem to grasp that concept. Thus you are no different than the people that have bloated government in spending regards. Oh you want to spend on what you think justifiable. Problem is, so does everyone else.

No one said you had to please everyone. Just the most good for the most people.

[nevergaveitathought]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/...ss_war_funding

Adding stuff that cant pass on a stand alone basis for the benefit of your base...

WTF...you will attack the basic bill itself for the war funding...at least that benefits this country as a whole...teacher unions..HELL NO


dem/blue states with wild public sector salaries and benefits and $100,000 retirements at the age of 50 for government union members that go broke... because of their politicians giving these special interest groups what they demand for the sake of getting their votes.... and then ultimately they cant tax their poor subjects any more to pay for it all and are about to default on their bonds want obama to bail them out..meaning red states bail out these idiots in the blue states...its actually rather disgusting

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Not from you.



Not uppity WTF. Just because those are your motivations...doesn't mean it is everyones.



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LOL....Ok RK, I have no doubt you could sell ice water to Eskimos but you are going to have a hard time convincing me you aren't pissing on my leg while I watch ya piss on my leg.

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Just because someone does not know how to articulate their position, doesn't make their position wrong. It just means they can't support it. I can't prove how gravity works...but I damn sure know it there. There's plenty of idiots who have been right. Hell, I've seen you be right before.



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It has to do with their action. They protest frank end of life discussions as 'Death Panels'. One can not articulate their position. It makes no sense. Smaller government yet unlimited health care for the elderly. Unlimited military spending. Nobody can articulate those dichotomies at least to anyone who knows what is going on. I happen to know what is going on. Your job as a leader of that movement is to convince people like nevergaveitathought to start giving it some thought. I realize you know what you are talking about but the majority of these folks do not. Why would the other side ever give up any of their pet projects if you guys won't?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/...ss_war_funding

Adding stuff that cant pass on a stand alone basis for the benefit of your base...

WTF...you will attack the basic bill itself for the war funding...at least that benefits this country as a whole...teacher unions..HELL NO

War funding!!!!!!!!!!!!! God Damn man don't you realize that war funding comes out of mine and your pockets? It does nothing for the long term health of a country...maybe a certain sector but not the country as a whole. Shit if you are spending money on war for jobs just build washing machines and then dump them in the ocean!

The Dem's do NOT want to spend money this way but are willing to as long as they get funding for their special interest groups! Fuc Defense contractors support the GOP. WTF you smoking? You are one of those Tea Party folks who has trouble articulating a position because it makes no fucn sense. All this article does is prove what I have been telling you since I joined this thread. Fuc, if you can't understand that have RK take you under his wing.

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

..meaning red states bail out these idiots in the blue states...its actually rather disgusting

And the blue states do not want to bail out the red states with military funding. Look up the word Politics.

[nevergaveitathought]

somehow or other there is just such a great divide in our thought processes its too diffcult to even comprehend your points

things you say are nonsensical to me