Capitalism Has Failed—What Next?

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Since I am pretty close to the top economically, (top five percent), I think things are going pretty good.

I read the article. One of the biggest "pity parties" I've read on a while.

What can I say. Being born a caucasion male is pretty darned good.

Or being born with certain athletic skills. Just the other day former Los Angeles Laker basketball great Magic Johnson was officially declared a billionare. He joins Michael Jordan, Lebron James and Tiger Woods as the four atheletes in the bilionaires club.

On the other hand anyone can become a millionare today. Just invest 10% of your pay check into a 401k or an IRA. If you can't get a 401k where you work, try a mutual fund like the Vanguard Total Index 500. It's ranked number one by the USA today.

Wages are up under Sleepy Joe and Kamala. You can make $100,000 just delivering the mail for UPS. At the Quick Trip gas station in North Dallas, you can make $65,000 just being a cashier.

Capitalism is working just fine in the USA!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

You can make $100,000 just delivering the mail for UPS. At the Quick Trip gas station in North Dallas, you can make $65,000 just being a cashier.

Capitalism is working just fine in the USA!

or you could sling mail during the day and work at QT in the evening and make 165k.


bahahahhahaaaa

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

or you could sling mail during the day and work at QT in the evening and make 165k.


bahahahhahaaaa

You would need to work a 40 hour work week to get the $65,000 at the QT. How many people are going to work an 80 work week to make $165,000? Not to many if any.

I think that we can both agree that Capitalism in the USA is working. It's not just working for Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, E. Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

[eccieuser9500]

But not for the little man.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

But not for the little man.

The only thing left is Anarchy.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

But not for the little man.

EU9500, I would agree with your statement if you are talking about 1923. This is 2023. The USA has the largest middle class of any country on the planet. There are good paying jobs for people who just have a GED. You don't have to have a degree from Harvard or Yale to make a $100,000 a year. Look at the contracts that Union heads at UPS and UAW are getting for their workers.

Capitalism is working just fine for most people. You are going to have a couple of losers out of 330 million people. The government has a safety net for them.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

You are going to have a couple of losers out of 330 million people. The government has a safety net for them.

And what he's too stupid to understand is that the safety net EXISTS because of capitalism. Even the channel of his communication exists because of capitalism.

Socialism can only exist because of the gains capitalism makes for society. You can be a socialist in a capitalist system, you cannot be a capitalist in a socialist system.

It's not allowed, you will be eliminated. Because the contrast between what has proven to work vs. what has proven to fail every time is so stark.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Socialism can only exist because of the gains capitalism makes for society. You can be a socialist in a capitalist system, you cannot be a capitalist in a socialist system.

I agree with the above. I think the OP has painted a picture for capitalism that is not accurate. Not every single citizen in the USA will end up with a four bedroom house and two car garage. Everyone has a fair shot to get into the middle class. The middle class is much larger now by percentage than it was in 1923.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

I agree with the above. I think the OP has painted a picture for capitalism that is not accurate. Not every single citizen in the USA will end up with a four bedroom house and two car garage. Everyone has a fair shot to get into the middle class. The middle class is much larger now by percentage than it was in 1923.

The highlighted is bullshit and has been proven wrong by systemic racism. You, sir, are coming off as a sensible person. The sappy one, on the other hand, has been programmed to believe what he is being inculcated with.

Yes, as Hillary said, they need to be deprogramed. All he is told is "Socialism bad", "equality bad" (go figure), "diversity bad". He sucks it down and swallows with a smile.

[eccieuser9500]

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

The highlighted is bullshit and has been proven wrong by systemic racism. You, sir, are coming off as a sensible person. The sappy one, on the other hand, has been programmed to believe what he is being inculcated with.

Yes, as Hillary said, they need to be deprogramed. All he is told is "Socialism bad", "equality bad" (go figure), "diversity bad". He sucks it down and swallows with a smile.

EC95, I haven't been "programmed" to believe anything. There was systemic racism. The "Forty Acres And A Mule", Sharecropping and overt Jim Crow Segregation is over with. You sound like you believe that Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Magic Johnson and Williams sisters (Tennis champs) are the only black people to get out of the projects. There is a significant black middle class. Next time you are in Los Angeles have some one point you to Baldwin Hills. There was a television show on a Cable TV channel about that neighborhood.

There are people still stuck in the projects. One can get out if they wish too. There are black doctors, lawyers, engineers, millionairs and several black Billionairs. The USA has had a black president and a black vice president. Kamala went to a better law school than former Vice President Mike Pence. The systemic racism that was like 60 years ago, when black football players could not play in the Southeastern or Southwestern conference of the NCAA even if you could run the ball like Hrshal Walker.

After Obama and Tim Geitner cleaned up the mess on Wall Street that Bush and Dick Cheney left behind in 2008, one theme of administration was that every one gets a fair shot. That does not mean that everyone will have the same outcome.

Law Enforcment has brought harm to some innocent black people, that is not a systemic thing. Not every police officer is a bad cop.

BTW, HRC was talking about Trump voters. I did not vote for Trump. Have a nice day.

[Iceman]

Has capitalism failed, or has our government failed us?

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

EC95,



Law Enforcment has brought harm to some innocent black people, that is not a systemic thing. Not every police officer is a bad cop.

BTW, HRC was talking about Trump voters. I did not vote for Trump. Have a nice day.

Thank you. And, I was referring to the sappy one who is programmed.

Originally Posted by Iceman

Has capitalism failed, or has our government failed us?

Capitalism failed when it was determined corporations are people and money is speech. Sir.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Thank you. And, I was referring to the sappy one who is programmed.




Capitalism failed when it was determined corporations are people and money is speech. Sir.

Is that the same as Money Talks and Bullshit Walks? lol

[eccieuser9500]

No, but I was thinking along the same lines. The more money you have, the longer you can filibuster.