For the ladies, why is Santorum TOO conservative?

[I B Hankering]

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Originally Posted by CJ7

poor, poor IB.

such a vapid spin response, tis tisk

apparently since he handed me the hypocrite title, he prefers Eproctophiliac.

but we knew that already

(See just how dumb CJ7 is @
http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=2207925&postcount=156)

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Originally Posted by Little Stevie

Poor I.B.

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Originally Posted by CJ7

dont anyone tell IB how to spell dufus ... he thinks using big words make hin look smart ...

BBAAAWWWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA

Whereas, CJ7 hasn't yet mastered the small words. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/doofus

[Energy]

Sorry folks, regardless of what a court says is "legal" (they've been wrong before...check out most anything the Ninth District pukes out), it is morally reprehensible to kill a viable fetus. Passing through the vaginal canal is not the definition of "born", otherwise, no one delivered by C-section would have ever been born in the technical sense.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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(See just how dumb CJ7 is @
http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=2207925&postcount=156)

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Whereas, CJ7 hasn't yet mastered the small words. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/doofus

well, IB, I know how to spell doofus .. Ive had that exact doofus topic directed at me on another board several years ago. I ask the person that said I didnt know how to spell dufus to look it up and prove me wrong. I made you look it up and post the definition just like I did the other moron. Good girl!

[I B Hankering]

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(See just how dumb CJ7 is @
http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=2207925&postcount=156)

Originally Posted by CJ7

dont anyone tell IB how to spell dufus ... he thinks using big words make hin look smart ...

Originally Posted by CJ7

well, IB, I know how to spell doofus .. Ive had that exact doofus topic directed at me on another board several years ago. I ask the person that said I didnt know how to spell dufus to look it up and prove me wrong. I made you look it up and post the definition just like I did the other moron. Good girl!

Here’s a little FYI for you CJ7: “Doofus” is the eponym for "Doove". It predates your arrival in this forum. Furthermore, the dictionary site was charitably provided so that you would know there is a place on the Internet where you might learn how to spell small, simple words like: “didn’t”, “don’t” and “him”.

BTW, Merriam-Webster has a word that defines you. That word is “moron”. It’s definition is: “a very stupid person”. Now a very stupid person is someone like you who uses misspelled words to criticize others for spelling errors. A very stupid person is someone like you who continues to deny established facts even when confronted with evidence to the contrary. So unequivocally, you are a moron. Coincidently, this same definition is used to define a key characteristic of an “Obamanite”. Another characteristic of an Obamanite is to "lie and deceive". You just admitted to doing both on multiple occasions.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You lost Doofus: facts prevail over 'your' opinion.

Wrong.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Doove

Wrong.

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[CuteOldGuy]

It's amazing to me that the Obamazombies will go as far as defending infanticide. A child born alive is a person. I don't know how you get around that. Your support of President Obama has become hysterical. Truly, truly sad.

[Doc Holliday]

More amazing than a Rick Santorum support thread on a prostitute board?

[Doc Holliday]

And now the serious reply...

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

It's amazing to me that the Obamazombies will go as far as defending infanticide. A child born alive is a person. I don't know how you get around that. Your support of President Obama has become hysterical. Truly, truly sad.

At issue is Obama’s opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

In discussions of abortion rights, definitions are critically important. The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. Those who believe that human life begins at conception or soon after can argue that even a fetus with no chance of surviving outside the womb is an "infant." We won’t try to settle that one.

What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of "infanticide" as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion.

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Are you a doctor, sir? An OB/GYN? Do you have experience in premature babies? Do you really think it is a good idea in the difficult situation of an abortion to force the undergoing life support of a very premature baby to live when the odds outnumber it won't? Are you a woman? Do you know what this would do to the psyche of the mother?

Before you spout off hyperbole like "amazing" and "hysterical" mocking the other side, why not put yourself in their shoes? Despite what cable news will have you believe, people do have good, rational reasons for supporting either side of the debate. The problem is our emotions get the best of us in issues like these and Fox News and MSNBC exploit that.

And on a broader scale of abortions and conservatism and the hobby? I am, in fact, pro-choice. Just as China's government should not have a say in who can or cannot have a child, neither should ours. A mother knows best, right? And do we want the government further regulating when and how we raise a family? On a personal scale, I would not ask, nor want a woman to abort my child. But I do not want the government telling me to, either! Would you as a hobbyist not feel better knowing the provider you're with chose and wanted to have her child rather than be forced to by those in power? That doesn't sound like freedom to me, nor does it sound like a government I wish to be under.

As far as Rick Santorum, I respect his lo-budget campaign tackling the Romney Juggernaut and his passionate Christian beliefs. However, I am one of those Ron Paul Libertarian, anti-big-goverment/business-as-usual, get-off-my-lawn! conservatives.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

It's amazing to me that the Obamazombies will go as far as defending infanticide. A child born alive is a person. I don't know how you get around that. Your support of President Obama has become hysterical. Truly, truly sad.

Yup - i'm for infanticide. And you're for letting people starve to death and/or die because they can't afford health insurance. So i guess we have a stalemate.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

And now the serious reply...

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Are you a doctor, sir? An OB/GYN? Do you have experience in premature babies? Do you really think it is a good idea in the difficult situation of an abortion to force the undergoing life support of a very premature baby to live when the odds outnumber it won't? Are you a woman? Do you know what this would do to the psyche of the mother?

Before you spout off hyperbole like "amazing" and "hysterical" mocking the other side, why not put yourself in their shoes? Despite what cable news will have you believe, people do have good, rational reasons for supporting either side of the debate. The problem is our emotions get the best of us in issues like these and Fox News and MSNBC exploit that.

And on a broader scale of abortions and conservatism and the hobby? I am, in fact, pro-choice. Just as China's government should not have a say in who can or cannot have a child, neither should ours. A mother knows best, right? And do we want the government further regulating when and how we raise a family? On a personal scale, I would not ask, nor want a woman to abort my child. But I do not want the government telling me to, either! Would you as a hobbyist not feel better knowing the provider you're with chose and wanted to have her child rather than be forced to by those in power? That doesn't sound like freedom to me, nor does it sound like a government I wish to be under.

As far as Rick Santorum, I respect his lo-budget campaign tackling the Romney Juggernaut and his passionate Christian beliefs. However, I am one of those Ron Paul Libertarian, anti-big-goverment/business-as-usual, get-off-my-lawn! conservatives.

nice reasoned post.

This is mostly a gotcha forum, glad to see a well reasoned post.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Doove

Yup - i'm for infanticide. And you're for letting people starve to death and/or die because they can't afford health insurance. So i guess we have a stalemate.

And given that there's already a law on the books requiring doctors to tend to babies who are still viable after an abortion procedure, i wonder if more people would die from Obama's "no" vote position, or from your position on healthcare.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Doove

And given that there's already a law on the books requiring doctors to tend to babies who are still viable after an abortion procedure, i wonder if more people would die from Obama's "no" vote position, or from your position on healthcare.

Do not use reasoned logic on the folks aganist abortion.

They believe, If you can not afford health insurance and die a slow death. Fine

But , If a woman can not afford to raise a child and chooses to abort it then that is some kind of blight on mankind and we are as a society.

I never understood that kind of logic.

[CuteOldGuy]

I rest my case.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I rest my case.

Thank God!

Does this mean you will STFU on this issue?