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08-21-2020, 01:42 PM
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No need now. Trump will be voted out in a few months.
Afterwards, all his supporters can do us a solid and go fuck themselves...or, leave the country (please leave, after you go fuck yourselves).
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08-21-2020, 01:55 PM
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#242
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meh
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Originally Posted by Randall Creed
No need now. Trump will be voted out in a few months.
Afterwards, all his supporters can do us a solid and go fuck themselves...or, leave the country (please leave, after you go fuck yourselves).
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Really? Who’s going to beat him? Racist joe and slut Kamala?
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08-21-2020, 04:00 PM
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#243
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Originally Posted by Grace Preston
"The only chance they have is contesting the results".
News flash. This time around-- it doesn't matter who wins. The other side is going to contest the results. That game has been set up for months now. Ignorant rubes on both sides are believing the rhetoric that their chosen camps are putting out.
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I agree. If Trump wins, the tards burn their neighborhoods down. I can live with that. They can't afford the products I work with anyway.
If Biden wins... well I think it's going to be all out Civil war. It won't start immediately... but if Biden starts to shut down all of the investigations into the FBI and CIA russiagate shit... well that's it for me. I take my advice from Thomas Jefferson.... a bit smarter than the posters here or any of our political class today.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
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08-21-2020, 04:33 PM
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#244
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Trump has saved “millions of lives??!?” You’re beyond delusional; you’re pathetically certifiable! Care to “elaborate?” He hasn’t done SHIT!!!
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Well he's done stuff and been called racist for it... I mean you recall the flight shutdown from China right? You remember criticizing him for that right? As for saving millions... the predicitons were 22 Million dead by now.... we're at what...15? that's 7 MILLION LIVES SAVED!!! suckit bitch! unless you're one of those 2+3=5 nuts.. in which case you can't understand the math.
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The U.S. is 4% of the world’s population and we have nearly 25% of the world’s coronavirus cases and DEATHS. If Trump, the Chump-in-chief was a Democrat, you’d be ALL OVER TRUMP’S PATHETIC RESPONSE.
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You're a liberal so I know you're used to it... even though you never change, but you're wrong again.I did the work for you even though I know you will ignore it (probably too stupid to understand a pivot table). The data below shows the US leads in neither category of normalized cases or deaths... (that is the only way to accurately compare national outcomes)
By cases/million
by death/million Doing better thanGBR with their vaunted socialized healthcare...
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His former adviser and campaign mangler, Steve Bannon was arrested and charged with defrauding donors to raise money for the border wall.
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I don't know the merits and neither do you but I wouldn't be surprised if this is political since it's coming out of SDNY and it's close to the election. I seem to recall a few other unjust criminal trials and investigations the last few years... Gen. Flynn? The whole russiagate fraud... people will be going to jail.. thats why the left is so fcuking desperate now.
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A judge threw out Trump’s challenge to a Manhattan DA subpoena for his tax records.
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care to tell us who nominated that judge? Look we get it.. it's politics. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen... I just hope how much you enjoy this is reflected when we start sending libs to prison for the treasonous act of trying to overturn the outcome of a fair and open election. I still take my oath to the Constitution seriously.... all enemies. foreign and domestic...
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A Senate bipartisan (that’s Democrat’s AND Republicans) report detailed Trump campaign contacts with Russia in 2016.
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Which resulted in what? Nothing because it's meaningless. Obama folks contacted Russians during their election campaign too.. so did Hillary. It's only Democrats that try to take the normal and criminalize it and the criminal and normalize it.
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Hey Trumpers, if Dufus-in-chief told you water isn’t wet, would you believe him? Yeah, you would.
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No we'd wait for you to come along take our water give it to lazy people and then call us racist for not giving it up ourselves.... while you smugly drink a bottle of evian in front of us.
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08-21-2020, 04:39 PM
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#245
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Originally Posted by Randall Creed
No need now. Trump will be voted out in a few months.
Afterwards, all his supporters can do us a solid and go fuck themselves...or, leave the country (please leave, after you go fuck yourselves).
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Book marking this so I can come back later and laugh at how stupid you were when you thought you were the shit. And you won't be able to deny it either.
That's the great thing about laying it out there and calling it: We get to judge you by results.
Unless you think you need some affirmative action, brother? I mean all you have to do is admit you can't cut it on the regular score card, and I promise not to come back and publicly drag you for this stupid ass prediction.
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08-21-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by texassapper
The data below shows the US leads in neither category of normalized cases or deaths... (that is the only way to accurately compare national outcomes)
By cases/million
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Either I don't know how to read that table, or you might want to recheck those numbers. It looks to me like that table says that the USA and all countries above it have MORE than 1,000,000 cases per million population. How is that possible? Also, 14 million deaths? I think that's too large by a factor of 80 or so.
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08-21-2020, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by billw1032
14 million deaths? I think that's too large by a factor of 80 or so.
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funny, the Map poster can't read the map!
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I promise not to come back and publicly drag you for this stupid ass prediction.
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stupid ass prediction? why the vitriol? all the National polls show Biden winning by a small to sometimes large margin. you leveled this same kind of post at me, then shut up after you saw I voted for Trump in 2016.
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No we'd wait for you to come along take our water give it to lazy people and then call us racist for not giving it up ourselves.... while you smugly drink a bottle of evian in front of us.
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I do love this post, however
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08-21-2020, 11:05 PM
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#248
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meh
Join Date: Feb 6, 2014
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
stupid ass prediction? why the vitriol? all the National polls show Biden winning by a small to sometimes large margin. you leveled this same kind of post at me, then shut up after you saw I voted for Trump in 2016.
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It's because Creed is typical leftist who claps whenever his leftist master on screen tells him to clap. Seriously, the level of how devoid he is of any critical thought is a soul-killing. Each time he gets put to task to back up his claims, he quickly shuts the fuck up because he knows he can't win an exchange of ideas.
But then again, neither can you, Chung. Apparently you think "but I voted for Trump" is a sufficient argument... it's not. Virtually every anti-Trump comment you've made COMPLETELY ignores any context and is you just repeating a quote from the man on the news screen.
You're still bitching about the 2016 elections "But Trump was mean to the GOP candidates and Kasich is awesome!" like somehow being mean in politics is this new thing exclusive only to Trump. God, you're ignorant. I don't consider myself that politically versed but how clueless you are of the nature of partisan politics is really sad.
When your pro-Biden talking point is "But look at how many politicians support him!" it just makes your ignorance that much more palpable.
But, that's okay, right, Chung? Because you "voted for Trump"
It's funny how you said texassapper shut up after you said you "voted for Trump" but you have yet to respond to any of my dismantling of your talking points.
Or do you need to watch more CNN to you that Trump is big bad orange?
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08-21-2020, 11:22 PM
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I don't take talking points from anyone. just because I mention things like Trump is universally hated among almost all Republicans, and say that Biden is well-loved by Democrats, doesn't mean I'm forwarding that as reasons to vote for or against anyone. it is discussion material. why does every post have to push an argument forward? I don't intend, or believe that anything I post will make anyone here believe anything different from what he already believes. how could I? I already stated that "Trumpers" will never admit a single thing he ever did wrong, so why would I attempt to argue a point that they disagree with? Sisyphus had an easier time with the boulder..
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08-21-2020, 11:51 PM
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meh
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That’s a really long winded way of saying you’re just running away from a discussion.
Funny how you mention discussion material but you can’t even discuss anything we say to you.
But wait. “You voted for Trump”
Heh.
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08-22-2020, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
I don't take talking points from anyone. just because I mention things like Trump is universally hated among almost all Republicans, and say that Biden is well-loved by Democrats, doesn't mean I'm forwarding that as reasons to vote for or against anyone. it is discussion material. why does every post have to push an argument forward? I don't intend, or believe that anything I post will make anyone here believe anything different from what he already believes. how could I? I already stated that "Trumpers" will never admit a single thing he ever did wrong, so why would I attempt to argue a point that they disagree with? Sisyphus had an easier time with the boulder..
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Given the choice between two evils, I pick the one that is the most fun. 2016 I didn't have that option. 2020 has made it easy to spot the non-fun one.
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08-22-2020, 07:36 PM
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meh
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Given the choice between two evils, I pick the one that is the most fun. 2016 I didn't have that option. 2020 has made it easy to spot the non-fun one.
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I'm amused when people say "between two evils"
Neither you or Chung have given concrete evidence about Trump being evil.
OTOH, Biden has literally admitted to his own corruption on live camera.
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08-22-2020, 08:26 PM
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I'm amused when people say "between two evils"
Neither you or Chung have given concrete evidence about Trump being evil.
OTOH, Biden has literally admitted to his own corruption on live camera.
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First, I apologize for not keeping up with the previous thread we've exchanged post. Took too long for me to get back to that thread and the content of the current postings changed. Didn't want to back track.
What concrete evidence do you have that Hillary is evil (in reference to 2016)? The cheeto doesn't conform to standards that are moral. Kids separated from parents, tried at court without having guardians, housed in cages. Just these activities he did not actively intervene to stop. Many people have posted other things. Seeing that the definition i've found for evil is cyclic to contain evil in their description, have to just accept it as speculative. But seeing how a great majority of those nearest to him have been prosecuted, regardless of why, I put great emphasis the apple in the center is the same.
I've made my choice, at the moment, of the two evils. No matter how they are described.
And we all know trump won't admit to any wrongs. You care to take the big step and tell us of any wrongs of trump?
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08-22-2020, 10:13 PM
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meh
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First, I apologize for not keeping up with the previous thread we've exchanged post. Took too long for me to get back to that thread and the content of the current postings changed. Didn't want to back track.
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That's okay. It wasn't like you ever really had anything substantive to say, anyways. Just a bunch of "I think -x- but you'll have to prove to me why he isn't" crap.
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What concrete evidence do you have that Hillary is evil (in reference to 2016)?
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-Attacking women that Bill allegedly raped
-laughing at getting a rapist off after he raped a minor
-Benghazi
-Haiti
-Her wildly leftwing views
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The cheeto doesn't conform to standards that are moral.
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Neither do you. You are the embodiment of greed and envy because you hate the rich so much for being rich.
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Kids separated from parents, tried at court without having guardians, housed in cages.
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That wasn't Trump's policy. That was Obama's. ICE was following Obama's command, not Trump's.
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Just these activities he did not actively intervene to stop.
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Except he did.
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Many people have posted other things.
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And they've been debunked as lies.
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Seeing that the definition i've found for evil is cyclic to contain evil in their description, have to just accept it as speculative.
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This makes no sense. Spouting words isn't the same as saying something, you know.
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But seeing how a great majority of those nearest to him have been prosecuted, regardless of why, I put great emphasis the apple in the center is the same.
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There's a difference between being prosecuted and being morally wrong. Flynn basically made a paper error and he was thrown the book and everything after it.
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I've made my choice, at the moment, of the two evils. No matter how they are described.
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Wrong, you've just confirmed your own biases.
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And we all know trump won't admit to any wrongs.
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Since you're so big on pointing fingers, how about you list some?
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You care to take the big step and tell us of any wrongs of trump?
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What exactly is it with you and making OTHER people do your work?
God, you're lazy.
But I'll do you a solid.
Trump's biggest mistake was listening that fraud fuck Fauci and not firing him yet.
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08-22-2020, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aoi
That's okay. It wasn't like you ever really had anything substantive to say, anyways. Just a bunch of "I think -x- but you'll have to prove to me why he isn't" crap.
-Attacking women that Bill allegedly raped
-laughing at getting a rapist off after he raped a minor
-Benghazi
-Haiti
-Her wildly leftwing views
Neither do you. You are the embodiment of greed and envy because you hate the rich so much for being rich.
That wasn't Trump's policy. That was Obama's. ICE was following Obama's command, not Trump's.
Except he did.
And they've been debunked as lies.
This makes no sense. Spouting words isn't the same as saying something, you know.
There's a difference between being prosecuted and being morally wrong. Flynn basically made a paper error and he was thrown the book and everything after it.
Wrong, you've just confirmed your own biases.
Since you're so big on pointing fingers, how about you list some?
What exactly is it with you and making OTHER people do your work?
God, you're lazy.
But I'll do you a solid.
Trump's biggest mistake was listening that fraud fuck Fauci and not firing him yet.
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Yeah. I discovered that "main stream" isn't literal (meaning streamed on dish, cable, satellite, antenae (sp) ). And you just adopted "trump good. everyone bad" as the go to line while you want everyone to post the minutae of anything called on. And you showed your ethics are different than mine and probably are the same as trumps. But other than that, there were some points we agree on and you gave up a point or two.
Gosh dogs. You got anything stronger than "allegedly" as an allegation? trump is documented by his own voice on recording as to assaulting women, signature on a check on his own account paying them off in a campaign finance violation that cohen took the hit for. And to keep your image of me intact, we'll have to await the FOIA to take affect for other things to come up. So ditch the allegedly moniker and cough up a fact like you always demand. Bengazi is a non-flyer since I remember everything that a non-mainstream media channel (by your definition) gave a blow by blow every evening (my time) as events were unfolding for a week prior and the known m.o. of the ambassador there. A great loss all around but misdirected blame that i have already stated. Post the Haiti stuff since i'm ignorant to what you mean. And wildly right wing views of potus negates left stuff to me.
LMAO on the greed statement. Look me up. I don't use a handle here. You can ask ANYONE that knows me first hand about my greed factor. With your admitted ethical quotient, you can't even fathom how $$$ money motivates me. To sum it up, those that know me would be spitting their beer out after reading your statement.
Why did trump up the game on the kid imprisonment thing? He has been tearing all things Obama down. Why would he accelerate that? Why new trump-administration rules stand to block the public from knowing anything about the treatment of migrant children in America’s detention facilities. Why after all the heat on him about *his* policies his admin enacted on it that his wife had to go and try to save face for him and visit? Give me an answer. Obama was the great deporter. trump took it further in means. So show me where he took it upon himself to stop these things. Especially before his wife got involved.
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Many people have posted other things.
And they've been debunked as lies.
Another of your patented goto replies that has no substance those it was a jab at a generalization. Ignorable.
Hey, you give me a source for the definition of evil that gives a quantitative, and i'll reply in kind, seeing you don't like the one I found.
And I definitely have a bias, just as you have. I can list a couple of them. You wouldn't understand some since you admit you'd cheat on things knowingly so morally (I know, you don't care about morals) your bias would ring true and through.
And stop trying to dodge the question. You point out a few of the big cheetos mistakes. Don't do a childish diversion. As Chung stated, "Trumpers" will never admit a single thing he ever did wrong, so why would I attempt to argue a point that they disagree with?" If Fauci is his biggest mistake, and i'll give you that since you've already stated in the past your opinion/bias? on that, you won't say anything about the deaths in this country from his milk toast effort in stopping the spread of virus in this country? Don't say that is up to the states because that will imply that trump can't lead.
And what is it with you not being able to say he makes mistakes when trump will never own any of his shortcomings/failures. Another childish dodge on your part.
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