25% of Americans are idiots

[hungryhippo]

I didn't use google for that one. Coast to Coast is one of my favorite shows to listen to. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ And Providing links to websites that cite other people/sources/websites that focus on a paticular subject matter that practice sound science is not losing a debate.

That is what the internet is here for. info at your fingertips. I beilieve in a lot of things and one of those is the scientific method. Creationism doesn't use this method and instead fills in the "gaps" with "God did it!"..It's not possible so we should stop questioning things.

Please tell me how you can verify that claim that God did it? I know I can't disprove that God didn't do it. But please tell me how without answering the quesiton with a question. i.e. giraffe and woodpecker "mysteries". Hell, you could say that evolution is his work.
Evolution theory is backed up with fossil records and evidence of evolution in other organisms in the lab.

[hungryhippo]

Originally Posted by pwood

Hungryhippo
It was Annunaki that built the pyramids and created humans as slave labor to mind gold around the world....

Is this what you believe?

Theyre very interesting stories that I enjoy. No Business in being taught in our schools though.

[pwood]

I only ask bc it's not evolution

[Roger.Smith]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Yes you are right you are the God Father of Knowledge you know it all- whatever Roger says is law- you have never been wrong have you? Even though 60 percent of the World believes in God- they are all wrong because you are so brilliant- gosh why don't you run for POTUS- I am pretty sure with your vast knowledge you could do wonders instead of using your knowledge on a hooker board. I am so sorry Roger because I and all others who worship or believe in God are so beneath you- I know you have various degrees and you are so brilliant because your brain evolved from apes so you are just a brilliant animal.
GTFOH, you remind me of someone who believes he's an expert in swimming and never been in the water. Your percentage of being right is about the same percentage of a Blind man walking into a dark room trying to find a Black cat that isn't there.

That wasn't a crazy rant at all.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by hungryhippo

Theyre very interesting stories that I enjoy. No Business in being taught in our schools though.

You have just contradicted every post you made on this topic- Do you know the Annukai are deities and some have listed them as aliens?

[hungryhippo]

Enjoying a story and believing it as fact are two different things.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by hungryhippo

I didn't use google for that one. Coast to Coast is one of my favorite shows to listen to. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ And Providing links to websites that cite other people/sources/websites that focus on a paticular subject matter that practice sound science is not losing a debate.

That is what the internet is here for. info at your fingertips. I beilieve in a lot of things and one of those is the scientific method. Creationism doesn't use this method and instead fills in the "gaps" with "God did it!"..It's not possible so we should stop questioning things.

Please tell me how you can verify that claim that God did it? I know I can't disprove that God didn't do it. But please tell me how without answering the quesiton with a question. i.e. giraffe and woodpecker "mysteries". Hell, you could say that evolution is his work.
Evolution theory is backed up with fossil records and evidence of evolution in other organisms in the lab.

So you watch Coast to coast or rather listen to coast- you do realize the host George Noory is an avid supporter of Alien life as well as the creation story of Adam and Eve?
The reason why I gave you examples of the Giraffe, Bombardier Beetle, Cheetah, woodpecker, and the Mimic Octopus because those are a small number of animals that wisdom shows are obvious products of Intelligent design- each one of those animals have unique things going that all must be there at once or the animal would cease to exist- why you can't understand that obvious info is beyond me- every Woodpecker drills into a tree- if it didn't have the padding around it's brain which acts as shock absorbers than you don't have a woodpecker or rather you have a woodpecker with brain damage- you can't evolve shock absorbing cushion around your brain over millions of years- it has to be there on day one or you die. The Giraffe has to have the flap to cut of blood supply when it drops it long neck to sip water or it simply passes out each time and drinks and it gets eaten by a predator.

You should have learned in elementary school that you need 3 things to make a fire: Heat + Fuel + Oxygen. You take one out the equation you don't have a fire- all 3 things have to be there- the theory of evolution will say there was a time when you could make fire- first you had the fire- then you had heat- then millions of years later you have Furl- than another million years oxygen came into the picture- sorry doesn't work that way all 3 components must be there at the same time.

[hungryhippo]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

So you watch Coast to coast or rather listen to coast- you do realize the host George Noory is an avid supporter of Alien life as well as the creation story of Adam and Eve?

I listen to Coast to Coast on Road trips. George is a great interviewer and has on some interesting guest. I don't agree with or believe in every topic on that show. Who said I don't believe in Alien life? I think the chances of us being alone are nearly impossible with the scale of the universe and the number of planets recently found in the goldilocks zone.

The reason why I gave you examples of the Giraffe, Bombardier Beetle, Cheetah, woodpecker, and the Mimic Octopus because those are a small number of animals that wisdom shows are obvious products of Intelligent design- each one of those animals have unique things going that all must be there at once or the animal would cease to exist- why you can't understand that obvious info is beyond me- every Woodpecker drills into a tree- if it didn't have the padding around it's brain which acts as shock absorbers than you don't have a woodpecker or rather you have a woodpecker with brain damage- you can't evolve shock absorbing cushion around your brain over millions of years- it has to be there on day one or you die. The Giraffe has to have the flap to cut of blood supply when it drops it long neck to sip water or it simply passes out each time and drinks and it gets eaten by a predator.

Feel like we are going in circles here.

You should have learned in elementary school that you need 3 things to make a fire: Heat + Fuel + Oxygen. You take one out the equation you don't have a fire- all 3 things have to be there- the theory of evolution will say there was a time when you could make fire- first you had the fire- then you had heat- then millions of years later you have Furl- than another million years oxygen came into the picture- sorry doesn't work that way all 3 components must be there at the same time.


False analogy- is a rhetorical fallacy that uses an analogy (comparing objects or ideas with similar characteristics) to support an argument, but the conclusion made by it is not supported by the analogy due to the differences between the two objects. Sometimes these differences are outright ignored by the person presenting the fallacy; other times, they may not be aware of the differences or that they apply. The fallacy occurs, and is common, because analogies are just that, analogies, and their parallels are always limited; the differences between things can often overpower their similarities. One thing people sometimes do for fun is extend a useful analogy or metaphor to the point of absurdity.

What proof of creationism is there other than ignorance?
"Since we don't know how this happened, it must mean God did it." There are and probably always will be gaps in our knowledge in every scientific field, including of course biology and evolutionary theory. Ignorance is never an argument and cannot be considered evidence in any meaningful sense. The mere fact that we cannot explain something is not a valid justification to rely upon something else, even more mysterious, as an "explanation."

The only way I see creationism being taken seriously is if someone can prove God exist. Good luck with that.

[hungryhippo]

Are there any real world applicatioins of creationism like there are for evolution?

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by hungryhippo

What proof of creationism is there other than ignorance?
"Since we don't know how this happened, it must mean God did it." There are and probably always will be gaps in our knowledge in every scientific field, including of course biology and evolutionary theory. Ignorance is never an argument and cannot be considered evidence in any meaningful sense. The mere fact that we cannot explain something is not a valid justification to rely upon something else, even more mysterious, as an "explanation."

The only way I see creationism being taken seriously is if someone can prove God exist. Good luck with that.

Ok read what you posted earlier- pwood gave you the chance to rebuttal you said the Annunkai created humans with the operative word being CREATED. From your own testimony you believe in creation and thereby have dismissed evolution. Did you not research what the Annunaki is- well newsflash it's an Alien Diety or Dieties. So you have already concluded that you believe in intelligent design so why are still debating?

[pwood]

What's ignorant is admitting there are gaps (flaws) in something and yet still believe it to be fact.

[pwood]

W.E.
I believe he stated that Annunkai created humans as slave labor

[pwood]

Once he figured out he contradicted himself tried to play it off as a story he lijes

[hungryhippo]

Sarcasm my friends. Look it up. I don't seriously believe that the Annunaki created us. It makes for a great story and belongs in the sci-fi section and not in our schools.

Originally Posted by pwood

What's ignorant is admitting there are gaps (flaws) in something and yet still believe it to be fact.

Ignorance means lack of knowledge or information. To say that science has every question answered would be stupid. Creationism says it has the answer to everything, as in God did it. That is not really answering the basic questions that we have had and still have.

Again, Please tell me what real world applications there are for Creationism?

There are quite a few for evolution.

[bojulay]

The main problem (what I refer to as strict evolutionist, ones who believe that
evolution and evolution alone is the only answer) have, is the question of the
origin of life.

They will not accept that by their explanation it would have to be some form
of spontaneous generation.

But that is what it would be, life arising from non living matter through some
form of natural means, the very definition of spontaneous generation.

They then automatically throw "God of the gaps" out there as if that
were some kind of legitimate response, when in fact it is more like
Darwin of the gaps. They hold the burden of proof to show a demonstration
through purely natural means when purely natural means is the claim
being made

Molecules to man evolution through purely natural means would also have
a purely natural explanation for the origin of life, and there is none.

We are still working on it is no answer, and when you do a little research
on the subject you find that just about every avenue through a purely
natural means has been exhausted.

You should also expect the process to still be found being demonstrated in
nature, and not one single event of life arising from non living matter has
ever been observed in nature.