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Old 11-25-2019, 10:02 PM   #226
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You catch on quick. Entering your notes in blue inside WTF's post.

How much control should the ex-Vice President have over the lives of his adult children? Does he have to answer for everything his children do as adults?


that depends. how much does Trump have to answer for everything his children do as adults?

see how that works?


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Old 11-25-2019, 10:16 PM   #227
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Committee, where at least the last two if not all three Impeachment inquiries took place I think. I think Pelosi gave it to Schiff and the Intelligence committee because Nadler blew the Mueller hearings so bad and I think the rules would have been more favorable to Trump in the Judiciary Committee.

are you saying Nadler is incompetent???? lol!
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Finally some respectful debate.

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Old 11-25-2019, 10:50 PM   #229
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that depends. how much does Trump have to answer for everything his children do as adults?

see how that works?


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The POTUS' kids weren't involved with the bribe. But the POTUS thought he could involve Joe Biden with Burisma. See how THAT works?









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The POTUS' kids weren't involved with the bribe. But the POTUS thought he could involve Joe Biden with Burisma. See how THAT works?



But Biden's son was directly involved in corruption. see who that works?





maybe you should keep yer mouth shut?????

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Old 11-25-2019, 11:36 PM   #231
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But Biden's son

Really? You through in a "but but but . . ." But . . .


was directly involved in corruption.

As I ask: Does Joe Biden have to answer for his son? What does any percieved Ukrainian company's corruption have to do with the bribe for withholding the funds already appropriated? Go ahead. Ignore my question. Give us another "whatabout." You Russian commie Soviet propagandist.

see [ ]how that works?





maybe you should keep yer mouth shut?????

No, and fuck you. Why don't you open your eyes?


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See how that works?







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Old 11-25-2019, 11:49 PM   #232
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See how that works?

see how this works?


Video of Tom Brokaw Calling Out Joe and Hunter Biden's 'Corruption' Resurfaces Amid Ukraine Scandal

https://www.newsweek.com/video-joe-h...rfaces-1464726


By Jessica Kwong On 10/11/19 at 3:11 PM EDT



In the midst of President Donald Trump's scandal over calling on Ukraine to investigate 2020 Democratic front runner Joe Biden, a video has resurfaced of former NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw calling out Biden for conflicts of interest involving his son from more than a decade ago.


The video, shared last Saturday by Twitter user @ibrahimpols, who calls himself a "media watchdog," shows Brokaw interviewing Biden on NBC's Meet the Press.
"Tom Brokaw calling out Joe-Hunter Biden's corruption in 2008," the Twitter user wrote about the clip.
Tom Brokaw calling out Joe-Hunter Biden’s corruption in 2008:

“Wasn’t it inappropriate for someone like you in the middle of all this to have your son collecting money from this big credit card company while you were on the floor protecting its interests?†pic.twitter.com/CORqFD6w1a
— Ibrahim (@ibrahimpols) October 5, 2019
Brokaw questions Biden about the propriety of his support for a law that made it harder for consumers to file for bankruptcy protection during a time when his son, Hunter, consulted for a Delaware credit company. Hunter Biden also is the son at the center of the Trump-Ukraine scandal.


Brokaw references a Wall Street Journal story stating that Hunter Biden made about $100,000 from the company, MBNA, and that the company gave Joe Biden's campaign $214,000. Brokaw added that Joe Biden was "fighting for a bankruptcy bill that MBNA really wanted to get passed through the Senate" that would make it harder for other companies to file bankruptcy. Brokaw noted that Barack Obama, who was a senator and not yet president, opposed the bill.


"In retrospect, wasn't it inappropriate for someone like you in the middle of all this to have your son collecting money from the big credit card company while you were on the floor protecting its interests?" Brokaw asked Biden.


"Absolutely not," Biden said.


"My son graduated from Yale Law School. The starting salary on Wall Street is $140,000 a year as a lawyer, options he had," Biden added. "He came home to work for a bank, surprise, surprise."




WFP USA Board Chair Hunter Biden introduces his father Vice President Joe Biden during the World Food Program USA's 2016 McGovern-Dole Leadership Award Ceremony at the Organization of American States on April 12, 2016, in Washington, D.C. Kris Connor/WireImage)



Trump also has accused Hunter Biden of earning millions of dollars from China in 2013 when his father was vice president. While there is evidence that Hunter went on a trip with his father to visit a U.S. envoy to China, there is no evidence he earned money from that trip.


Trump's Ukraine scandal erupted last month after a whistleblower complaint about the president's communications with a foreign leader. Trump acknowledged that he asked Ukraine's president to investigate Biden for corruption relating to his son's private business deals while Biden was in office.


The 45th president's three oldest children, including his daughter Ivanka Trump, who serves as a senior White House adviser, have earned millions of dollars with business deals abroad during their father's presidency.


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Peter Schweizer: Hunter Biden needs to testify on Ukraine, China business dealings

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Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer in an exclusive interview with Hill.TV called for former Vice President and 2020 White House contender Joe Biden's son to testify before the U.S. Senate about business dealings with Ukraine and China.



"What I’ve called for simply is for the Senate to call former second son Hunter Biden to come and testify and people look into this," Schweizer said during a lengthy interview on Hunter Biden's business dealings. "We’re talking about large deals and large sums of money...it involves countries like China, which are America’s chief rival on the global stage."



The researcher provided an overview of Hunter Biden's alleged business dealings with Ukrainian energy company Burisma and the Chinese government in a recent New York Post op-ed that details payments of more than $3 million to Hunter Biden's company during a 14-month period when his father was the point person on Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.



"In the case of the Ukraine, the very energy company that was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars was under investigation in the Ukraine for corruption. Ukrainian officials have claimed that Joe Biden pressured them to suspend or end that investigation. That’s in fact what the Ukraine did," Schweizer said in a summary of his findings.



Schweizer during the Hill.TV interview also referenced reporting from The Hill's John Solomon who reported in early May that Ukrainian officials are reviewing internal corruption allegations against the energy company that employed Hunter Biden. Solomon also wrote that "U.S. and Ukrainian authorities both told me Biden and his office clearly had to know about the general prosecutor's probe of Burisma and his son's role."



The former vice president told The New York Times in a recent statement that his son's business dealings was not a consideration in pressuring Ukraine to fire its prosecutor general, noting the decision was made “without any regard for how it would or would not impact any business interests of his son, a private citizen.”


Hunter Biden also issued a statement declaring that "at no time have I discussed with my father the company’s business, or my board service, including my initial decision to join the board" of the Ukrainian energy company.



Schweizer's op-ed also details Hunter Biden's alleged dealings with China, noting how the former second son accompanied his father on an official trip to Beijing in 2013 only to then have his company ink a $1 billion private equity deal with the Chinese government two weeks later.


"Hunter Biden at the time had no background in China and had little background in private equity," he wrote.





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YO! Corn Pop Joe is a DIRTY HO!

see how that works?


Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...obe-is-revived


Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.



“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.


“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.


Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.


But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.


U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.


The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money.


Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”


He added: “I would like to emphasize the fact that presumption of innocence is a principle in Ukraine” and that he couldn’t describe the evidence further.



William Russo, a spokesman for Joe Biden, and Hunter Biden did not respond to email messages Monday seeking comment. The phone number at Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC in Washington was no longer in service on Monday.


The timing of Hunter Biden’s and Archer’s appointment to Burisma’s board has been highlighted in the past, by The New York Times in December 2015 and in a 2016 book by conservative author Peter Schweizer.


Although Biden made no mention of his son in his 2018 speech, U.S. and Ukrainian authorities both told me Biden and his office clearly had to know about the general prosecutor's probe of Burisma and his son's role. They noted that:
  • Hunter Biden's appointment to the board was widely reported in American media;
  • The U.S. Embassy in Kiev that coordinated Biden's work in the country repeatedly and publicly discussed the general prosecutor's case against Burisma;
  • Great Britain took very public action against Burisma while Joe Biden was working with that government on Ukraine issues;
  • Biden's office was quoted, on the record, acknowledging Hunter Biden's role in Burisma in a New York Times article about the general prosecutor's Burisma case that appeared four months before Biden forced the firing of Shokin. The vice president's office suggested in that article that Hunter Biden was a lawyer free to pursue his own private business deals.
President Obama named Biden the administration’s point man on Ukraine in February 2014, after a popular revolution ousted Russia-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych and as Moscow sent military forces into Ukraine’s Crimea territory.


According to Schweizer’s book, Vice President Biden met with Archer in April 2014 right as Archer was named to the board at Burisma. A month later, Hunter Biden was named to the board, to oversee Burisma’s legal team.


But the Ukrainian investigation and Joe Biden’s effort to fire the prosecutor overseeing it has escaped without much public debate.


Most of the general prosecutor’s investigative work on Burisma focused on three separate cases, and most stopped abruptly once Shokin was fired. The most prominent of the Burisma cases was transferred to a different Ukrainian agency, closely aligned with the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, known as the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), according to the case file and current General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko.


NABU closed that case, and a second case involving alleged improper money transfers in London was dropped when Ukrainian officials failed to file the necessary documents by the required deadline. The general prosecutor’s office successfully secured a multimillion-dollar judgment in a tax evasion case, Lutsenko said. He did not say who was the actual defendant in that case.


As a result, the Biden family appeared to have escaped the potential for an embarrassing inquiry overseas in the final days of the Obama administration and during an election in which Democrat Hillary Clinton was running for president in 2016.


But then, as Biden’s 2020 campaign ramped up over the past year, Lutsenko — the Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden once hailed as a “solid” replacement for Shokin — began looking into what happened with the Burisma case that had been shut down.


Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered “members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services.”


Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he’d like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president’s intervention.


“Unfortunately, Mr. Biden had correlated and connected this aid with some of the HR (personnel) issues and changes in the prosecutor’s office,” Lutsenko said.


Nazar Kholodnytskyi, the lead anti-corruption prosecutor in Lutsenko’s office, confirmed to me in an interview that part of the Burisma investigation was reopened in 2018, after Joe Biden made his remarks. “We were able to start this case again,” Kholodnytskyi said.


But he said the separate Ukrainian police agency that investigates corruption has dragged its feet in gathering evidence. “We don’t see any result from this case one year after the reopening because of some external influence,” he said, declining to be more specific.


Ukraine is in the middle of a hard-fought presidential election, is a frequent target of intelligence operations by neighboring Russia and suffers from rampant political corruption nationwide. Thus, many Americans might take the restart of the Burisma case with a grain of salt, and rightfully so.


But what makes Lutsenko’s account compelling is that federal authorities in America, in an entirely different case, uncovered financial records showing just how much Hunter Biden’s and Archer’s company received from Burisma while Joe Biden acted as Obama’s point man on Ukraine.


Between April 2014 and October 2015, more than $3 million was paid out of Burisma accounts to an account linked to Biden’s and Archer’s Rosemont Seneca firm, according to the financial records placed in a federal court file in Manhattan in an unrelated case against Archer.


The bank records show that, on most months when Burisma money flowed, two wire transfers of $83,333.33 each were sent to the Rosemont Seneca–connected account on the same day. The same Rosemont Seneca–linked account typically then would pay Hunter Biden one or more payments ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 each. Prosecutors reviewed internal company documents and wanted to interview Hunter Biden and Archer about why they had received such payments, according to interviews.


Lutsenko said Ukrainian company board members legally can pay themselves for work they do if it benefits the company’s bottom line, but prosecutors never got to determine the merits of the payments to Rosemont because of the way the investigation was shut down.


As for Joe Biden’s intervention in getting Lutsenko’s predecessor fired in the midst of the Burisma investigation, Lutsenko suggested that was a matter to discuss with Attorney General Barr: “Of course, I would be happy to have a conversation with him about this issue.”


As the now-completed Russia collusion investigation showed us, every American deserves the right to be presumed innocent until evidence is made public or a conviction is secured, especially when some matters of a case involve foreigners. The same presumption should be afforded to Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and Burisma in the Ukraine case.


Nonetheless, some hard questions should be answered by Biden as he prepares, potentially, to run for president in 2020: Was it appropriate for your son and his firm to cash in on Ukraine while you served as point man for Ukraine policy? What work was performed for the money Hunter Biden’s firm received? Did you know about the Burisma probe? And when it was publicly announced that your son worked for Burisma, should you have recused yourself from leveraging a U.S. policy to pressure the prosecutor who very publicly pursued Burisma?


John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists’ misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He serves as an investigative columnist and executive vice president for video at The Hill.
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now that is some hard news reporting by John Solomon.
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:40 AM   #236
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Disagree with # 1 and 2.

and 3 and 4.

Cannot speak to timeline of Trump's interest.

The whole Biden affair reeks of corruption.

DPST hypocritically accuse Trump of Biden's admitted conduct.

Both deserve a non-partisan investigation - which what the LSM and Schiff are definitely Not capable of.
Assuming Joe Biden's actions in the Ukraine were not done in any way to favor his son, Joe Biden did nothing wrong. Used the power, financial or otherwise, of the U.S. to get something done in a foreign country. Just as Trump did by withholding aid from Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador.

You think it reeks of corruption. Fine. I for one have no problem with the incident being investigated. Please take a minute to read the following. My advice is to research the subject in question before reaching a conclusion. From what I've read on the subject, there is absolutely no link between Joe Biden and Hunter Biden working at Burisma and Joe Biden's actions having an impact on Hunter Biden. Just as there is no proof the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections.

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Oh but wait Corruption in dc I can't believe that ???????? That's where these idiots have made billions
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Both deserve a non-partisan investigation - which what the LSM and Schiff are definitely Not capable of.
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Both deserve a non-partisan investigation - which what the LSM and Schiff are definitely Not capable of.
It's not that they are not capable of it, it's that they are afraid of it.
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LOLLING at Captain America!

Typical passive aggressive narrative.

They all need investigating by a third party, eh? Let us do it! Hot damn jimmy Bobby! We’ll get to the bottoms of it.

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