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10-16-2023, 07:59 PM
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No. I've just done a more in depth analysis. You'll see.
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No you haven’t. The Steelers are closer to a 1/5 team than a 5/1 team. The Browns backup QB played better against the 9ers than KP did. You forgot to mention that.
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10-16-2023, 08:18 PM
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No you haven’t. The Steelers are closer to a 1/5 team than a 5/1 team. The Browns backup QB played better against the 9ers than KP did. You forgot to mention that.
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No. 3-2 is equidistant from 1-5 and 5-1. Since 2017, Coach T has the best winning percentage in the NFL in one score games, so I expect them to win most of the tough ones.
I forgot to mention it because you just made it up! Why make shit up?
Stats vs. Niners:
KP 232 yards 67.4 completion percentage 68.4 passer rating
PJ 192 yards 52.9 completion percentage 45.2 passer rating
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10-16-2023, 08:30 PM
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No. 3-2 is equidistant from 1-5 and 5-1. Since 2017, Coach T has the best winning percentage in the NFL in one score games, so I expect them to win most of the tough ones.
I forgot to mention it because you just made it up! Why make shit up?
Stats vs. Niners:
KP 232 yards 67.4 completion percentage 68.4 passer rating
PJ 192 yards 52.9 completion percentage 45.2 passer rating
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PJ won. His first NFL start. He didn’t look intimidated like KP did against the 9ers.
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10-16-2023, 08:32 PM
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Hence the old adage: stats are for losers
Garbage time can make a stat line look great. Stats only tell a small part of the story. The kid from Cleveland looked much, much better than KP did against the 9ers.
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10-16-2023, 08:35 PM
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I watched the game. That's not true. Cleveland's defense won the game.
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10-16-2023, 08:39 PM
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But PJ played very well against them, for the most part. Got points when he needed to. And KP looked like shit against them, for the most part.
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10-16-2023, 08:42 PM
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I watched the game. That's not true. Cleveland's defense won the game.
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Actually, the 9ers missed two fgs. They missed a 41yarder with 6 seconds left to win the game. Kenny sucked against the 9ers. Looked spooked. And he’s been jittery in the pocket this season. Stats don’t show that. But here are his stats. They suck. His QBR is 32nd in the league.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id.../kenny-pickett
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10-18-2023, 07:31 PM
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So far Kenny Pickett is the only QB to throw for 200 or more yards against the Browns defense, and they have faced Brock Purdy, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson.
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10-18-2023, 07:53 PM
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So far Kenny Pickett is the only QB to throw for 200 or more yards against the Browns defense, and they have faced Brock Purdy, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson.
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So what. He put up a whopping 12pts. He has 5 TDS and 4 INTs and a QBR that’s 32nd in the league. And, the Steelers D has been on the field 11 more plays per GAME this year. That’s a lot of three and outs. They’ll be out of gas by week 10 at this rate. I guess you missed that in your “in-depth” analysis.
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10-18-2023, 09:02 PM
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Out of gas? What does that mean?
My in-depth analysis looks at more than just the basics that you look at. It's prudent to look at the strength of the defenses a QB has gone up against.
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10-18-2023, 09:16 PM
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Out of gas? What does that mean?
My in-depth analysis looks at more than just the basics that you look at. It's prudent to look at the strength of the defenses a QB has gone up against.
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You look at meaningless stats which are a waste of time. If you don’t understand the defensive being on the field for too many plays and getting tired you don’t understand football. 11 extra plays a game is a lot. That falls on KP and Canada.
When KP throws for over 300yrds, 3 TDS and 30pts, I’ll pop a bottle of champagne. Not two hundred yards and 12pts.
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10-19-2023, 10:01 AM
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I find it hard to criticize most players under this coaching staff. When you look at recent history and how many players they have developed vs how many have regressed, they don't seem too good at their jobs, and I don't think that will change until Tomlin is gone along with the rest of his staff.
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10-19-2023, 10:38 AM
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I find it hard to criticize most players under this coaching staff. When you look at recent history and how many players they have developed vs how many have regressed, they don't seem too good at their jobs, and I don't think that will change until Tomlin is gone along with the rest of his staff.
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Look at the players who left and are playing better. It points back to Tomlin.
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10-19-2023, 05:11 PM
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Look at the players who left and are playing better. It points back to Tomlin.
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Yea, like Chase Claypool, Devin Bush, Bud Dupree, AB, etc. Oh, wait. LOL
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10-19-2023, 05:14 PM
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You look at meaningless stats which are a waste of time. If you don’t understand the defensive being on the field for too many plays and getting tired you don’t understand football. 11 extra plays a game is a lot. That falls on KP and Canada.
When KP throws for over 300yrds, 3 TDS and 30pts, I’ll pop a bottle of champagne. Not two hundred yards and 12pts.
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Looking at the strength of the opposing defense and how other QBs including ones who are highly regarded have performed against that defense is the opposite of meaningless.
You'll be popping your bottle. Hopefully it's something good like La Grande Dame.
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