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Old 03-27-2023, 06:52 AM   #211
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Old 03-27-2023, 06:57 AM   #212
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If I look up, see dark clouds and say ‘it’s gonna rain’ but the storm blows past, it’s not a lie. It’s an incorrect assumption.

If you look up every day and announce to the world 'the sky is going to fall today!', every day, people are bound to start dismissing you for being a fool, too...


Remember back in early 2020 when Covid was 'fake'? You trump humpers really can't explain why he was saying covid wasn't real, do you?
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Old 03-27-2023, 07:07 AM   #214
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If you look up every day and announce to the world 'the sky is going to fall today!', every day, people are bound to start dismissing you for being a fool, too...


Remember back in early 2020 when Covid was 'fake'? You trump humpers really can't explain why he was saying covid wasn't real, do you?

You may have noticed that I sometimes repeat my speeches from the past.

Why???

Because repetition of the TRUTH helps you break free from brainwashing which is based on the repetition of lies. And I do my imperfect best to speak truth boldly and without fear.

It is never about me.

It is always about Him.

But in the final analysis, you will not be totally
unbrainwashed until you see the TRUTH with your own eyes.

God gave us eyes to see and ears to hear.

See the TRUTH and face it. Hear the TRUTH and accept it.

Before it is too late.

The globalists, the radical leftist Democrats, and the RINOS (collectively “the communists”) have used the FAKE media to brainwash you.

Break free from the brainwashing to regain your freedoms.

Reject the ruling elite that seeks to make We the People a servant class.

Pray for TRUTH to be revealed to you.

Jesus Christ is the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life.

God bless each of you.

Tomorrow is a new day.

Press on.

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If you look up every day and announce to the world 'the sky is going to fall today!', every day, people are bound to start dismissing you for being a fool, too...
He claimed Bragg was going to indict him before? I must’ve missed that.

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Remember back in early 2020 when Covid was 'fake'? You trump humpers really can't explain why he was saying covid wasn't real, do you?
I don’t remember that, primarily because it didn’t happen. .
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:37 AM   #216
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There were instances where former U.S. President Donald Trump downplayed the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic and urged people to ignore or downplay its threat. For example, in March 2020, when the pandemic was starting to spread rapidly in the United States, he tweeted that "The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant."He also repeatedly claimed that the virus was "under control" and that it would "disappear," despite warnings from public health experts that the virus was spreading rapidly and could lead to a significant loss of life. Additionally, he criticized states that implemented strict measures such as lockdowns and mandatory mask-wearing, arguing that they were unnecessary and harmful to the economy.
These statements were widely criticized by public health experts and others, who argued that they undermined efforts to contain the spread of the virus and could have contributed to a higher death toll.
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Except that that’s been debunked up one side and down the other. Keep believing those fairytales tho, it’s almost time for the Easter Bunny. Be sure to leave him some carrots.

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media’s coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a ‘new hoax.’"
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You play with fire you might get burned.
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... Surely glad that you've cleared that up,
seeing-as you seem Confrontational...

I didn't claim that you LIKED far-let extremism.
I merely asked if you were OK with it.
And WHY?? ... because I've not seen you address it.

Hmmm... come to mention - since neither of us
is being confrontational - I haven't seen
YOU address Biden family selling influence or
whether YOU feel Trump should be arrested.

Do YOU feel Trump should be arrested by Bragg?
I didn't see you address it.

Not in a box - or with a fox,
Not in the rain - or on a plane,
Not here or there - not anywhere.

... Please, please address it - if you can,
askes the Australian Salty man.

#### Salty
See now we’re getting somewhere. I didn’t feel you were being confrontational even though, sadly, you said you felt I was.

So continuing on with our nice chat, basically I feel this forum is bombarded with pro-Trump, pro-far right BS by the same 3-4 people I feel it’s my right to offer a little balance. Circle jerks aren’t my thing.

Being you were non confrontational I’ll answer your questions.
I hate far left extremism.
I can’t stand our president. He’s horrible. Embarrassing.
Trump should not be arrested on covering up a hooker encounter.

There’s your answers. Hope I was successful in not being confrontational.
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... Addressed and answered! - Good form there, Charley3.

... I do believe that people are trying to convince
Bragg to drop the case.

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Gentlemen let’s get this thread back on topic please
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Bragg's sham of a case falling apart

NEW: The grand jury considering possible criminal charges against former President Trump related to hush money payments to Stormy Daniels is not expected to be asked to vote on an indictment this week
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Tune in a month for now for the next installment of Crazy Ass Leftists at work to watch this

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Manhattan DA Insiders Worry the Trump Hush Money Case Is Weak Sauce

https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan...083705197.html


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The indictment that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is currently seeking against former President Donald Trump—over his payment to silence a porn star about their sexual affair—is based on a crime that was so flimsy it was never viewed as a standalone criminal case, according to three attorneys who have worked on that investigation.


These insiders spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity, because they are not authorized to discuss the ongoing criminal investigation.


A grand jury may soon decide whether to indict Trump for faking business records and dodging campaign finance laws when he used his company—the Trump Organization—and his personal “fixer”—Michael Cohen—to quietly pay hush money to the adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep the revelation from derailing his 2016 presidential campaign. Journalists from around the globe are now staking out a courthouse in downtown New York City, awaiting the possible arrest of the former American president.


it's Bragg's contention Trump had to pay off Daniels with campaign funds simply because he was running for President. interesting claim since the FEC (Federal Election Commission) determined years ago there was no campaign law violation.


What’s the Holdup With the Trump Indictment?


But that criminal probe is just a small slice of a much more expansive criminal investigation into Trump’s lies to banks, insurance companies, and government agencies.


Bragg, who inherited the investigation from his predecessor, Cy Vance Jr., shut down the wider operation soon after entering the office—and only recently revived this narrow portion as a single case.


His decision to bring back what has been deemed the “zombie” case surprised several insiders who have been briefed on the various iterations of the Stormy Daniels case over the years.


“The Stormy case was the easiest, the most straightforward, but had the risk of being nothing more than a misdemeanor. The business fraud case had more heft, but was complex and sprawling, and much more difficult. There was never any discussion of breaking them apart,” one source told The Daily Beast.


What initially drew prosecutors to the case was the way the Trump Organization paid back Cohen in separate checks broken up over a year, engaged in a monthly cover-up using this private business while Trump was in the White House.


so if Trump had paid Cohen as a lump sump it's fine, payments are not?


But New York County prosecutors never considered pursuing the hush money case by itself, because, for one thing, investigators on the DA’s Trump team couldn’t even agree whether Trump committed a serious crime.


Faking business records is merely a misdemeanor in New York, and three sources said Vance wouldn’t greenlight an indictment that would involve a historic law enforcement action against a former president—all to land Trump less than a year at the city’s notoriously violent jail on Rikers Island.


Possible Trump Indictment Delayed After Grand Jury Meeting Gets Called Off


Still, they determined this particular criminal charge could be bumped up to a felony if business records were faked to commit or hide a separate crime—a fact prosecutors wrestled with for months. A recent tell-all memoir by an ex-prosecutor who previously led that team, Mark Pomerantz, goes into vivid detail explaining how he had to resort to building a “creative legal theory” to pursue the case.


One version entailed this local DA attaching the state charges to the federal crime; after all, the whole idea was that Trump had failed to properly log the hush money payment publicly in closely scrutinized reports filed to the Federal Election Commission. But chaining state-level business records charges to an alleged federal crime would open Pandora’s Box, according to one source, because doing so would conspicuously highlight how this should have been a federal case instead.


did i mention the FEC determined there was no election law violation?


And that was quite the risk, because the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York had already chosen not to indict Trump.


Federal prosecutors aggressively went after Cohen and even categorized Trump as “Individual-1,” but they stopped there. The feds gave immunity deals to get incriminating information from the Trump Organization chief financial officer who cut the checks, Allen Weisselberg, and the National Enquirer media executive who helped broker the hush money deal, David Pecker.


“The hush money case had no exact state charge. It should have been the feds,” said a second person who spoke to The Daily Beast.


Assistant district attorneys and their outside advisers were also unclear about whether this novel approach would even hold up in court.


“DANY would have to argue that the intent to commit or conceal a federal crime had converted the falsification of the records into a felony. No appellate court in New York had ever upheld (or rejected) this interpretation of the law,” Pomerantz wrote in People vs. Donald Trump: An Inside Account. “There was a big risk that felony charges would be dismissed before a jury could even consider them.”


The DA team’s second version was even more of a stretch. This one involved attaching the business records charge to a bonkers underlying crime: viewing Stormy Daniels’ attempts to sell her story on the eve of the 2016 election as her trying to extort Trump. In his book, Pomerantz acknowledges this is “a somewhat awkward construction” that would act as if “Trump was, in effect, a blackmail victim.” That would turn Trump’s payment into money laundering, he figured. But the “soft-core extortion” theory, as Pomerantz called it, was hoisted on its own petard.


Trump ‘Committed Crimes,’ Prosecutor Wrote Before Quitting Manhattan DA’s Office


“Legally, the hush money payment had not become dirty money until [Stormy Daniels] received it, so neither Cohen nor Trump had committed money laundering by sending it,” Pomerantz wrote in his book.


The book says Vance twice commissioned outside lawyers—a rare step that’s nearly unheard of for such a law enforcement office—to research the matter. Vance decided against any criminal charges in late 2019 and revisited the decision in early 2021, but he ultimately decided against it.


The final nail in the coffin, though, seemed to come when Bragg inherited the case at the start of 2022. In his book, Pomerantz recalls a Feb. 9, 2022, meeting during which Bragg said he “could not see a world” in which he would use Cohen as a witness to indict Trump. On Tuesday, a spokeswoman for the office said that four people who were present at the meeting disputed that recollection.


Joe Tacopina, one of Trump’s defense lawyers on this case, told The Daily Beast he wasn’t surprised that lawyers who have long been close to this investigation have their reservations about making the Stormy Daniels matter a standalone criminal case. “I’ve spoken to two FEC chairmen. It’s not even close. I don’t understand how they could do this. It’ll eventually get tossed aside,” Tacopina said.


did i mention the FEC determined there was no election law violation?


However, skeptics could view Bragg’s recent decision to hire a top attorney at the Department of Justice as a way to overcome concerns that the state case can’t hold up on its own—or is somehow weakened by the DOJ’s decision to not charge Trump even after leaving office. Matt Colangelo, who left an extremely prominent position as the nation’s acting associate attorney general, previously worked on fraud investigations against Trump at the New York Attorney General’s Office.


And Bragg has apparently come around on Cohen, making him a key witness before the grand jury that’s poised to indict Trump any day now.


Still, these three sources cheered on Bragg for taking on the case—and noted that this could merely be the first iteration in a larger investigation.


Karen Friedman Agnifilo, who served as the previous DA’s top deputy for years, said the Stormy Daniels case merits more serious consideration than it has received so far.


“I disagree with people who think this is not an important case. This was Donald Trump’s first attempt at interfering in an election. He did it in 2016 and again in 2020. In terms of what it represents, I think it’s significant,” she said, noting that the DA was smart to move on this first because the statute of limitations might run out in May.


“The 11 payments to Michael Cohen—then recording false information in the business records—were done by a sitting president who was in the Oval Office at the time. I don’t know how anyone could view this as not serious,” she said.



once again Bragg contends Trump should have paid Cohen via the Trump campaign. for a personal matter. the fact that Daniels threatened to go public simply because Trump was running for president is extortion. it doesn't make it a campaign expense.


but don't take my word for it. take the word of the FEC and the DOJ who each separately determined there was no campaign law violation and thus Bragg's basis of record keeping fraud .. is fraudulent.

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Let’s look at the results of the Manhattan DA hoax:

-Trump did NOT get indicted nor arrested
-Trump’s approval went up
-The Left support weaponization of Justice system
-The Left support high-profile arrests
-The Libs got duped again

They fell for it. AGAIN!

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