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Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The map comes from the anti-gun rights group: Brady Campgain Against Gun Violence.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/

This is more bullshit spin from you WHIRLYTURD. The Brady Campaign isn't AGAINST your right to own a gun. It's FOR my right NOT to be shot by an asswipe like you.

Here's what the map is all about, despite your spinning and lies:

Brady Issues 2011 State Scorecard: California Rises Again
Feb 16, 2012

BRADY ISSUES 2011 STATE SCORECARDS:

California Rises Again; Arizona, Alaska, And Utah Lead Zero-Sum Club

31 states with weak gun laws export 9 times the crime guns
as states with the strongest laws

WASHINGTON, D.C. – California continues to blaze legislative trails in adopting lifesaving gun laws, rising to a high of 81 points (out of a possible 100) on the 2011 Brady State Scorecard rankings, while too many states remain in the Zero-Sum Club with the weakest gun laws, the Brady Campaign announced today.

The Brady Campaign also announced today that its analysis of 2010 crime gun trace data supplied by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) found that the 31 states with the weakest gun laws export 9 times the crime guns as the six states with the strongest gun laws. (Click on the graph to the right to download the detailed PDF)

"Guns don't fall from the sky into the hands of criminals," said Brady Acting President Dennis Henigan. "All too often, crime guns come from gun dealers in the states that stubbornly refuse to enact common sense, lifesaving gun laws. Every day, a river of illegal guns flows out of the states with weak gun laws, victimizing families in states that are doing their best to protect their residents. It is no accident that the states with the weakest gun laws are the exporters of death and injury."

For the 5th year in a row, the Brady Campaign has issued a 100-point scorecard ranking all 50 states on the basis of laws that can reduce gun violence, such as background checks on all gun sales, permit-to-purchase requirements, and limiting handgun purchases to one a month. Today’s report ranks states for laws that were enacted by the end of 2011. It reveals that 31 states still have few gun laws, while six states, including California, that rank in the top tier, have strong and effective gun laws. (Legal Community Against Violence's web site and reports were the primary sources used in the report to determine the content of state gun laws.)

California remains the state with the strongest gun laws as it gained another point in 2011 after passing legislation that requires the retention of long gun records in the firearm database administered by the California Department of Justice. The absence of long gun records in the database represented a loophole in California law until it was closed last year. Handgun records are already maintained by the state. The long gun record retention legislation was the top priority of the California Brady Campaign Chapters and allies.

"California is golden when it comes to adopting laws that lead to safer communities. If more of America had California's gun laws, countless lives would be saved," added Henigan.

New Jersey, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, and Hawaii round out the top six states with the strongest gun laws, with scores ranging to 72 from 50, respectively. Those states also have the lowest gun death rates in the nation.

At the other end of the spectrum are Arizona, Alaska, and Utah with 0 points each. Florida made news this year after a demerit category was added for a gag rule on doctors that limits their freedom to discuss the dangers of guns with patients. Florida enacted the gag rule last year and that dropped its score to from 5 points to 3 points.

A fresh analysis of data for crime guns recovered by police and traced back to the dealer that sold the gun provides additional evidence showing that strong gun laws help to curb the supply of guns to the illegal market. The ATF data, available on its website, provide information on the source states of U.S. crime guns by state. The data show that states with weak gun laws have a crime gun export rate nine times higher than states with strong gun laws.

The Brady Center analyzed the data to identify patterns in the movements of crime guns across the United States, including which states have the highest rates of crime guns moving across state borders, known as the crime gun export rate (per 100,000 population).

Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Indiana, Mississippi, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and West Virginia are among the 31 states that together export crime guns at a rate nine times higher than states with strong gun laws.

Brady Campaign officials acknowledge the research of Legal Community Against Violence on state gun laws. Their publication, “Regulating Guns in America,” and website served as the primary sources for this analysis. For more information, see http://www.lcav.org

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The Brady Campaign is the nation's largest citizens' lobby to prevent gun violence. We represent the voice of the overwhelming majority of Americans who are tired of living with the constant tragedy of gun violence and are in favor of strong laws and policies that will save lives. We are the light that exposes politicians who are putting the American people at risk, empowering the American people to hold them accountable for decisions and actions that undermine public safety.

We are driven by the focused vision of a nation where all Americans are safe at home, at work, at school, and in our communities.

Dan Gross is the President of the Brady Campaign and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

This map really doesn't show what you say it does, does it, WHIRLYTURD. You're lying again.

And this is a direct contradiction to the conclusion you drew in the first post of this meandering thread.

I guess you're flip flopping on... yourself?

FACT JACK!

Guest040616 · 02-23-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

so what are you trying to prove by posting it?

Seems a contradiction to the conclusion you draw in the first post of this thread.

I guess you're flip flopping on... yourself?

You seem to be saying that Whirly is a Trending flip flopper! That shocks me!

Whirlaway · 02-23-2013, 11:41 AM

Damn, your right AssUp, I had the colors reversed....

the map shows the LEAST (yellow states) and MOST (orange states) tolerant 2nd Amendment states, no surprise here..."

Thanks;

Why don't you tell us what you think the map says........

Waiting...........

I B Hankering · 02-23-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

WHERE? Certainly NOT in the post you keep linking to.

You're Lying and Crying AGAIN man.

Either answer the questions or admit that you haven't got the courage of your own conviction.

In other words: Your mouth wrote ANOTHER check your ass couldn't cash!

In other words, Assup the jackass, you're still an ignorant dumb fuck that cannot read and comprehend, but then you take it one step further and postulate disingenuous questions to further reveal your perennial ignorance. That's why you were elected:

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013

ASSUP!!!

Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

In other words, Assup the jackass, you're still an ignorant dumb fuck that cannot read and comprehend, but then you take it one step further and postulate disingenuous questions to further reveal your perennial ignorance.

What haven't I read or can't comprehend? The insulting bullshit you posted three or four times saying that I can't read or comprehend? Please explain what's disingenuous about the questions you continue to ignore.

You're tilting at windmills again, IBS!

Just because you stamp your little foot and repeat the same insults doesn't mean that you've made your position clear, or even stated your position. It doesn't answer any questions that SpeedRacer, I, or even your blow-buddy, the OP have posed. You're just screaming louder and LOUDER and LOUDER! Over and over and over and over and over.

If you want to engage in a debate, you've got to attempt at least to prove your position. You haven't stated on on the premise of this discussion. You've simply argued irrelevant side topics ... unsuccessfully, I might add ... and then tried to back them up with insults.

Anybody see a pattern here?

BTW -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO IBMELTINGDOWN, DAY FIVE!

I B Hankering · 02-23-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

What haven't I read or can't comprehend? The insulting bullshit you posted three or four times saying that I can't read or comprehend? Please explain what's disingenuous about the questions you continue to ignore.

You're tilting at windmills again, IBS!

Just because you stamp your little foot and repeat the same insults doesn't mean that you've made your position clear, or even stated your position. It doesn't answer any questions that SpeedRacer, I, or even your blow-buddy, the OP have posed. You're just screaming louder and LOUDER and LOUDER! Over and over and over and over and over.

If you want to engage in a debate, you've got to attempt at least to prove your position. You haven't stated on on the premise of this discussion. You've simply argued irrelevant side topics ... unsuccessfully, I might add ... and then tried to back them up with insults.

Anybody see a pattern here?

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BTW -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO IBMELTINGDOWN, DAY FIVE!

Assup the jackass, you're still the ignorant dumb fuck that cannot read and isn't comprehending, but then you continue to take it one step further and postulate disingenuous questions to further reveal your perennial ignorance. That's why you were elected:

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013

ASSUP!!!

Guest040616 · 02-23-2013, 12:58 PM

One thing about it, you can't say that I B Lying & Crying doesn't strive for consistency in his posts!

I B Hankering · 02-23-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

One thing about it, you can't say that I B Lying & Crying doesn't strive to be consistent in his posts!

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013

ASSUP!!!

Guest040616 · 02-23-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're pretty damn consistent yourself,

I am a mere "consistency" novice compared to I B Lying & Crying. You say the something over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and so on and so forth.

Well, I'm sure you get my drift! Or at least everyone else should!

I B Hankering · 02-23-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

I am a mere "consistency" novice compared to I B Lying & Crying. You say the something over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, and so on and so forth.

Well, I'm sure you get my drift! Or at least everyone else should!

Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Assup the jackass, you're still the ignorant dumb fuck that cannot read and isn't comprehending, but then you continue to take it one step further and postulate disingenuous questions to further reveal your perennial ignorance.

IBLyingandCrying, you have confirmed your cowardice. You have tacitly admitted you have neither the substance nor evidence to post a debate. Further you've shown that you don't have the balls to admit you disagree with Whirlyturd.

Your continued repetition of the same lame insults prove that you are TRULY LYING AND CRYING. And, we can now say, unequivocally, that you are also running and hiding.

SO, I guess we're going to need to start referring you by a more apropos moniker.

What will we see from IBRunning&Hiding on MELTDOWN, DAY SIX?

I B Hankering · 02-23-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

IBLyingandCrying, you have confirmed your cowardice. You have tacitly admitted you have neither the substance nor evidence to post a debate. Further you've shown that you don't have the balls to admit you disagree with Whirlyturd.

Your continued repetition of the same lame insults prove that you are TRULY LYING AND CRYING. And, we can now say, unequivocally, that you are also running and hiding.

SO, I guess we're going to need to start referring you by a more apropos moniker.

What will we see from IBRunning&Hiding on MELTDOWN, DAY SIX?

Once again, Assup the jackass, the only meltdown you need to concern yourself with pertains to your pump-up plastic playmate. How many times have you made that repetitive accusation, Assup the jackass???? Kinda makes you a repetitive hypocrite like BigKoTex, doesn't it, Assup the jackass!?!

BTW, why is it that you are hysterically posting in "Size 6" font, Assup the jackass??? Are you covering for some other inadequacy there, Assup the jackass??? Time for you to go back to your mommy's basement and poke your pump-up plastic playmate, you puny pricked putz.

Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Damn, your right AssUp, I had the colors reversed....

the map shows the LEAST (yellow states) and MOST (orange states) tolerant 2nd Amendment states, no surprise here..."

Thanks;

Why don't you tell us what you think the map says........

Waiting...........

The colors indicate the comprehensiveness of gun regulations state by state, as determined by the study conducted by the Brady Campaign. Just like it was published and described in the study from which you copied the image.

You can't measure "toleration" for the Constitution, and this study didn't do that. That's your twisted, inside out spin on it. It's the law of the land, as you so readily point out. If state gun laws were in violation of that, they would not be allowed to stand. Anybody could challenge their constitutionality in court... as I'm sure they have ... and eventually force the SCOTUS to rule.

Of course if SCOTUS started overturning state laws you'd scream bloody murder about that, too! Wait a second ... they've overturned GOP gerrymandered districts made by the Texas legislature. Why aren't you screaming socialism now?

Please provide a little insight into the working of that little mind of yours, little man?

There, you don't need to wait any longer.

NEXT!

Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Once again, Assup the jackass, the only meltdown you need to concern yourself with pertains to your pump-up plastic playmate. How many times have you made that repetitive accusation, Assup the jackass???? Kinda makes you a repetitive hypocrite like BigKoTex, doesn't it, Assup the jackass!?!

Actually, boy, you're the one whose made a career out of posting in big type. I figured I'd catch better attention from your ADD ass.

Are YOU really giving ME shit about posting in type size 6? That's the best you got? LMAO!

Well try this:

IBRunning&Hiding: setting the new standard for chickenshit!

It's definitely got a ring to it!

Yssup Rider · 02-23-2013, 04:55 PM

(Crickets...).