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04-07-2021, 05:40 PM
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#196
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Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates
So if I shot you in the head but you died because your heart stopped and you have taken drugs, I can say it was the drugs that caused your heart to stop, and that the bullet to the head didn't contribute to your heart stopping it was the drugs instead that caused your heart to stop, I mean you were going to die eventually from the drugs anyway. so that's the ticket.
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Every bodies heart stops when they die. Why did his heart stop is the question to be answered and there is no "additional act" like a bullet to the head to consider so why use a silly analogy that doesn't apply here? And if the defense can prove with medical testimony that there was no obvious obstruction/ damage to the airway, it becomes a more difficult "reasonable doubt case". At this point, I do not know if there is a definitive medical report showing the kind of damage to the throat that would cause suffocation/ asphyxia. Has anybody testified using those two words?
Was George Floyd's windpipe so damaged or completely obstructed, that it caused his heart to stop or could that amount of drugs caused his heart to stop and he was breathing when his heart stopped?
Reasonable doubt would be a bitch in this case for the prosecution if the jury wasn't afraid of being murdered in their sleep if they come back with the "wrong" decision as decided by BLM.
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04-07-2021, 05:43 PM
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#197
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Originally Posted by bambino
If you read The Gateway Pundit piece, Floyd wasn’t saying I can’t breath but I took too many forbidden topics. Floyd’s dealer should be charged with murder.
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Chauvin's Lawyer pointed that out to a witness and the witness verified to the court that's what he heard in the video clip.
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04-07-2021, 06:02 PM
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Who knew this forum had so many pathologists in here who did the autopsy on Floyd to render both an objective scientific and medical opinion? LOL
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04-07-2021, 06:12 PM
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#199
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Who knew this forum had so many pathologists in here who did the autopsy on Floyd to render both an objective scientific and medical opinion? LOL
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Armchair Expertise is the West's favorite pasttime since the internet got big. Used to have to go to the local diner to do it with your buddies back in the day.
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04-07-2021, 06:18 PM
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^^^Or the barber shop on a Saturday, because when I was a kid, I was kind of surprised because of how those grown men would argue and gossip about nothing... and as an adult, I'm pretty much doing the exact same shit as them on a whore board.
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04-07-2021, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
^^^Or the barber shop on a Saturday, because when I was a kid, I was kind of surprised because of how those grown men would argue and gossip about nothing... and as an adult, I'm pretty much doing the exact same shit as them on a whore board.
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Watch the actual trial. The evidence and the testimony. You won’t need the internet. Try to learn something relevant.
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04-07-2021, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
If you read The Gateway Pundit piece, Floyd wasn’t saying I can’t breath but I took too many forbidden topics. Floyd’s dealer should be charged with murder.
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Nor apparently was he calling out for his birth mother as every single pundit on CNN and MSNBC have told us incessantly. Seems his girlfriend, another drug addict was called "Mama" by Floyd.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy8a...ross-testifies
George Floyd’s Girlfriend Broke Down as She Revealed He Called Her ‘Mama’ Too
And I'd like to point out for myself only, that I have never offered a medical opinion on what actually killed Floyd. I have however offered an opinion on what the medical evidence should be ( a legal opinion ) if Chauvin is to be found guilty of killing Floyd. Floyd either died of suffocation/ asphyxiation ( and they better provide unquestionable proof of that ) or he didn't. I do not know at this time what the final medical opinion will be. I'm guessing that the opinion of the official Medical Examiner and the people the Floyd family hired with that 27 million dollars will have different opinion ironically perhaps entering "reasonable doubt" into the conclusion.
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04-07-2021, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Nor apparently was he calling out for his birth mother as every single pundit on CNN and MSNBC have told us incessantly. Seems his girlfriend, another drug addict was called "Mama" by Floyd.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy8a...ross-testifies
George Floyd’s Girlfriend Broke Down as She Revealed He Called Her ‘Mama’ Too
And I'd like to point out for myself only, that I have never offered a medical opinion on what actually killed Floyd. I have however offered an opinion on what the medical evidence should be ( a legal opinion ) if Chauvin is to be found guilty of killing Floyd. Floyd either died of suffocation/ asphyxiation ( and they better provide unquestionable proof of that ) or he didn't. I do not know at this time what the final medical opinion will be. I'm guessing that the opinion of the official Medical Examiner and the people the Floyd family hired with that 27 million dollars will have different opinion ironically perhaps entering "reasonable doubt" into the conclusion.
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I’m sure the Floyd family stopped missing George as soon as the 27 million dollar check cashed. Only tears of joy.
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04-07-2021, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
I’m sure the Floyd family stopped missing George as soon as the 27 million dollar check cashed. Only tears of joy.
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Truth be known, they didn’t care one rats ass about him when he was alive.
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04-07-2021, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
Who knew this forum had so many pathologists in here who did the autopsy on Floyd to render both an objective scientific and medical opinion? LOL
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Who in here claims they are a pathologists and did the autopsy on George Floyd? The initial narrative is unraveling thats all.
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04-07-2021, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
Truth be known, they didn’t care one rats ass about him when he was alive.
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Exactly! Look how he lived his life!
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04-07-2021, 09:31 PM
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I'll fooockin go as far as saying. That I believe Police should have the Right to shoot you down if you resist, run and especially if you are combative and try to fight!
With ZERO liability!
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04-07-2021, 09:48 PM
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I'll trust the Coroner's opinion. Homicide.
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04-07-2021, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
Who in here claims they are a pathologists and did the autopsy on George Floyd? The initial narrative is unraveling thats all.
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Realize sarcasm when you read it? Look at my subsequent post. Does that sound like a guy who is serious to you?
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04-07-2021, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
Realize sarcasm when you read it? Look at my subsequent post. Does that sound like a guy who is serious to you?
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It's really hard to say.
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