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07-28-2017, 11:28 AM
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Without a more equal integration into the military, we will continue to skew it in the direction of individuals who think military concerns trump all others.
Such as now where there is this huge concern for VA hospitals when imho there should be a push for all America health care concerns.
Right now you have a military mindset that is wanting to exclude able bodied human beings from entering the military and all it's long term benifits because they do not think just like this group.
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07-28-2017, 11:37 AM
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Yes...the cost argument is ridiculous
Chelsea Manning was not the antidotal evidence I shot down.... someone posted that men in his unit could not handle stress of war....as he wondered how trans could? Ironic don't you think.
Let us study the suicide rate among transgendered now in the military compared to straight men and women. Is it 41%...or the militaryaverage of 18% that was posted?
Maybe we can get the suicide rate up to the Iranian transgendered! Just throw them off high buildings!
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07-28-2017, 11:47 AM
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Without a more equal integration into the military, we will continue to skew it in the direction of individuals who think military concerns trump all others. Forcing 99.9% of U.S. taxpayers to accommodate a fraction of 1% of the population with expensive, elective surgery is a distortion of the word "equal." "Equal" implies that such an expense would benefit the overwhelming majority. Sex-change surgery quite obviously does not benefit society as a whole; it benefits a self-elect few.
Such as now where there is this huge concern for VA hospitals when imho there should be a push for all America health care concerns. Veterans signed contracts with the U.S. government quid pro quo putting their lives on the line to serve and defend. Per those contracts, veterans are lawfully due what they were promised in exchange for offering their lives.
Right now you have a military mindset that is wanting to exclude able bodied human beings from entering the military and all it's long term benifits because they do not think just like this group. Anybody that enters the service in order to receive immediate health care is, by definition, not "able bodied" or, in this instance, sound mind.
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07-28-2017, 11:57 AM
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Every tax is forcing someone to give up hard earned money to benefit another.
The military then should not discriminate if able Transgendered sign up to offer their lives. I mean you accept their taxes to help pay for military Vets healthcare right.
That last is a red herring....no different than JDCornhole signing up for the dick sucking benefits afforded him in the Navy
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07-28-2017, 12:10 PM
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Every tax is forcing someone to give up hard earned money to benefit another. Expecting 99.9% of the population to out of pocket accommodate less than 1% of the population is economically unjustifiable.
The military then should not discriminate if able Transgendered sign up to offer their lives. I mean you accept their taxes to help pay for military Vets healthcare right. The only thing the transgendered are offering is unjustifiable expenses and mental instability: a la Chelsea Manning.
That last is a red herring....no different than JDCornhole signing up for the dick sucking benefits afforded him in the Navy The World Health Organization (WHO) still classifies those believing they are transgendered as suffering from a mental illness in its current global codebook, the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).
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07-28-2017, 12:25 PM
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Expecting 100% of the population equality in joining the military without prejudice is justifiable.
Kristen Beck would disagree. http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/opinio...ion/index.html
Yet they are already in our military and they are not trying to offer their life to the WHO
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07-28-2017, 12:44 PM
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Expecting 100% of the population equality in joining the military without prejudice is justifiable.
Kristen Beck would disagree. http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/opinio...ion/index.html
Yet they are already in our military and they are not trying to offer their life to the WHO
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"Kristen Beck's opinion" is as fractionally relevant as "he" is statistically relevant in relationship to non-transgendered personnel who have served over the course of the last two centuries of American military history that has done damn well without accommodating these mentally confused individuals. Furthermore, the trade-off is not worth it.
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07-28-2017, 12:57 PM
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"Kristen Beck's opinion" is as fractionally relevant as "he" is statistically relevant in relationship to non-transgendered personnel who have served over the course of the last two centuries of American military history that has done damn well without accommodating these mentally confused individuals. Furthermore, the trade-off is not worth it.
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We really do not know how many gay or Transgender have honorable served in the history of the military. Not something they were able to admit until recently... other than Sergeant Maxwell Klinger!
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07-28-2017, 01:00 PM
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We really do not know how many gay or Transgender have honorable served in the history of the military. Not something they were able to admit until recently... other than Sergeant Maxwell Klinger!
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Point of fact, the military has done damn well here-to-fore without any nonsensical and costly accommodations. Ergo, if it ain't broke, there's nothing to fix.
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07-28-2017, 01:07 PM
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Point of fact, the military has done damn well here-to-fore with out any nonsensical and costly accommodations. Ergo, if it ain't broke, there's nothing to fix.
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6 million dallars is not costly.
Trump is spending 10 times that jetting back and forth to his golf courses.
If they can not handle basic training....they should be booted like any other recruit.
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07-28-2017, 01:14 PM
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WTFagboy asked the War Resisters League to pay for his gender reassignment surgery and they said no way. So now his only hope is to enlist and let Uncle Sam pick up the tab. After they slice his wienie off, he'll tell them he is a pacifist tranny so they will discharge him and he won't have to do any actual fighting.
Fagboy also keeps advocating for trannies in the military because his goal as a pacifist is to weaken the US military as much as possible.
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07-28-2017, 01:27 PM
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6 million dallars is not costly.
Trump is spending 10 times that jetting back and forth to his golf courses.
If they can not handle basic training....they should be booted like any other recruit.
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You're talking to someone who deployed to Afghanistan with unarmored vehicles who can properly appreciate that $6 million dollars can be better spent on military materiel to fight and survive with or caring for a soldier who has lost limbs or one or more senses to an IED.
Fuck those suckers who want to wack off their dicks at public expense. They can do it on their own time with their own money ... just as "Kristen Beck" did. The military has always discriminated against medical conditions it didn't believe enhanced military readiness. There are more obese people out there wanting to join the service than there are transgendered people; but, just how reasonable is it to expect a 5' 10", 400 lb person to functionally serve on a SEAL Team? A dude with a light duty chit and laid up in his rack recovering from surgery because he had his tallywacker cut off is even less functional than an extremely obese soldier, sailor or Marine.
As I posted before, the military has done damn well here-to-fore without any nonsensical and costly accommodations. Ergo, if it ain't broke, there's nothing to fix.
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07-28-2017, 01:42 PM
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You're talking to someone who deployed to Afghanistan with unarmored vehicles who can properly appreciate that $6 million dollars can be better spent on military materiel to fight and survive with or caring for a soldier who has lost limbs or one or more senses to an IED.
Fuck those suckers who want to wack off their dicks at public expense. They can do it on their own time with their own money ... just as "Kristen Beck" did. The military has always discriminated against medical conditions it didn't believe enhanced military readiness. There are more obese people out there wanting in the service than there are transgendered people; but, just how reasonable is it to expect a 5' 10", 400 lb person to functionally serve on a SEAL Team? A dude with a light duty chit and laid up in his rack recovering from surgery because he had his tallywacker cut off is even less functional than an extremely obese soldier, sailor or Marine.
As I posted before, the military has done damn well here-to-fore with out any nonsensical and costly accommodations. Ergo, if it ain't broke, there's nothing to fix.
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Why not have able bodied blind people enlist and train the to be Naval Aviators. They might crash a few F14s trying to land on ACs. SnitchFuck would be all for it. Because he's an idiot!
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07-28-2017, 02:15 PM
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You're talking to someone who deployed to Afghanistan with unarmored vehicles who can properly appreciate that $6 million dollars can be better spent on military materiel to fight and survive with or caring for a soldier who has lost limbs or one or more senses to an IED.
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Those are two totally different issues.My ex girlfriend lost her younger brother to those shitty armored Humvees.
You'd make a better argument by banning Trump flying to Florida to golf (90 million)or buying vigara (89 million) for limp dick retirees than banning those wishing to offer their life for service.(6.5 million)
In fact Trump, who did all he could to get out of service to this country is the last mutherfucker to ban others who voluntarily offer up their life for this country.
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07-28-2017, 02:21 PM
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Why not have able bodied blind people enlist and train the to be Naval Aviators. They might crash a few F14s trying to land on ACs. SnitchFuck would be all for it. Because he's an idiot!
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Look dickhead....if there is a job in the military that a blind person could do better than some perverted dipshit like you, I'd be all for emlisting them. It is all about abality , not sexual orientation.
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