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Old 02-14-2022, 11:07 PM   #196
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Canadian Civil Liberties Association condemns Trudeau's use of Emergencies Act to target freedom protesters

The association released a statement via Twitter that read:

"The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act. This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met.

"The Emergencies Act can only be invoked when a situation 'seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada' & when the situation 'cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.'

"Governments regularly deal with difficult situations, and do so using powers granted to them by democratically elected representatives. Emergency legislation should not be normalized. It threatens our democracy and our civil liberties.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaki...dom-protesters
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Old 02-15-2022, 04:21 AM   #197
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Glad to see the hyperbolic fear-mongering remains alive and well, guy
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Old 02-15-2022, 05:07 AM   #198
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Oops forbidden topic.
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Old 02-15-2022, 10:54 AM   #199
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned quite a few posts ago, that this Hostage event wasn't gonna last. The collateral damage and fallout was too much. All you guys who cheered about the convoy gonna help fund these truckers fines and loss of insurance for defying laws?
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Old 02-15-2022, 11:41 AM   #200
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned quite a few posts ago, that this Hostage event wasn't gonna last. The collateral damage and fallout was too much. All you guys who cheered about the convoy gonna help fund these truckers fines and loss of insurance for defying laws?
All they have asked for, is to talk with Trudeau, is that so difficult?

Seems conversation would be better than tonguing BLMs ass, like Trudeau did?

BTW, they had a picture of Trudeau side by side with Fidel Castro, he really does look like his son.
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Old 02-15-2022, 12:09 PM   #201
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Hmmm... Anything at all about the thread topic?
OR are YOU just here with indirect insults?

Maybe you should start your-own thread.

#### Salty

It does appear that she or he is attempting to troll. I'll keep that in mind with any response to his or her comments.
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Old 02-15-2022, 12:09 PM   #202
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Always interesting to see those on the board on the side of freedom and those who oppose it.

Those who oppose it make false and silly statements like
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Shoot even the Canadian Civil Liberties Association condemned Trudeau's use of Emergencies Act to target freedom protesters - but I guess to those who bow down to tyrants in government, that qualifies as fear mongering

And even though this has been a peaceful protest that has the support of a majority of people, some use false inflammatory rhetoric like hostage event when they know there are no hostages involved.

All Trudeau has done is make himself even weaker. He has multiple province's premiers publicly disagreeing with him and the public becoming more enraged with his illegal actions. Hell major newspapers in Canada that are typical government mouthpieces have even condemned this.

Shoot today in Coutts we had: Coutts police honors, greets and hugs truckers who have blocked the US - Canada border for 18 consecutive days.

https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/stat...WxEL2aek_5VHGQ

And more and more restrictions have been lifted thanks to the Freedom truckers taking a stand.
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Old 02-15-2022, 12:36 PM   #204
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Old 02-15-2022, 12:39 PM   #205
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The day after Trudeau grants himself unprecedented power, he backdoors news to the CBC that he is easing restrictions at the border. He doesn't want freedom fighters to know that their protest worked.

The Ottawa Police Chief has resigned after Trudeau took control of police forces last night.

Quebec is canceling its vaccine passport program in the wake of national protest. Trudeau is alone.





Premier of Ontario Doug Ford admits that the Vaccine Passport Program was a massive failure. Ends it. Watch

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/sta...WxEL2aek_5VHGQ
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All they have asked for, is to talk with Trudeau, is that so difficult?

Seems conversation would be better than tonguing BLMs ass, like Trudeau did?
I think the sad part of this, is I do agree w truckers having a right to protest, and even have a rally. BUT ...once a protest becomes an occupation and the protests become a costly burden, whether it's for truckers or BLM or anyone else, it forces the hand of government. Hostage takers are not to be negotiated with, and it marginalizes their perspective / point of view. They ultimately will become merely the object of dissension versus having a valid concern. I'm sure BLM has gotten perhaps a little bit of slack in comparison due to the unprecedented amount of violence against blacks in society, specifically under police apprehension, or under police custody, so nobody wants to pretend that they are equal. That's why I made the rather absurd comparative of a freedom convoy vs. black freedom convoy. Why they are just words they are very much about oppression. It's a shame the truckers didn't take a more political view with the government, but as soon as they became a mechanism that had a negative impact on the economy and viewed as the oppressors versus the oppressed, the narrative changed. I guess there's no perfect solution, cuz likely the government would not have listened to them until they presented themselves in Mass.
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A bit of slack? You can’t be serious. They burned cities, killed people and left billions in damage. The truckers honk their horns, dance and wave Canadian flags. Comparing one to the other is patently ridiculous.
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It's funny jacuzzi, that you minimize everything that happens when truckers block free trade and markets and create billions in Lost revenue, but have such contempt for people who voice their distaste for physical oppression of blacks over decades. It's been said by many people that violence and riots are the voice of the unheard. So now we've heard the Truckers but you still only hear violence when it comes to BLM! It's funny you can hear the message of the truckers but not the oppressed colored people. Is it because you are a patent racist, or just choose to only see the rights of the hostage takers and trucks as being correct since they called their rally , a freedom rally? Can I ask you a question? How does somebody become so obtuse in life that they don't see oppression that has been a point of skin color, but can when it's a vaccine?



That to me is beyond ridiculous.
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... Well, mates... There IS a difference... A BIG Difference.

The BLM and Antifa protests went on and on for weeks at a time.
Millions and Millions of dollars in DAMAGE and DESTRUCTION. $$$$

While the Canada Trucker Protest lasted WHAT? ... A week?
And would have been over sooner IF Trudeau had just dropped
the vax passport idea.

The comparison between the two IS rather silly. ..

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It's funny jacuzzi, that you minimize everything that happens when truckers block free trade and markets and create billions in Lost revenue, but have such contempt for people who voice their distaste for physical oppression of blacks over decades. It's been said by many people that violence and riots are the voice of the unheard. So now we've heard the Truckers but you still only hear violence when it comes to BLM! It's funny you can hear the message of the truckers but not the oppressed colored people. Is it because you are a patent racist, or just choose to only see the rights of the hostage takers and trucks as being correct since they called their rally , a freedom rally? Can I ask you a question? How does somebody become so obtuse in life that they don't see oppression that has been a point of skin color, but can when it's a vaccine?
More misinformation being spread by you. There was not " billions in Lost revenue" because of the truckers - that is a damn lie and you know it

As far as violence - the truckers have been PEACEFUL. BLM was NOT Peaceful. If you dispute that, there is no hope for you.

And once again, it is typical of libs when losing an argument to call the other person racist - which is what you have done yet again. There is nothing racial about this. But by you wanting to keep falsely claiming racism says more about you being a racist than anything.

Now - to the crux of the issue, answer this - Is this the first time since the Second World War that an advanced western democracy has invoked the maximum emergency powers it's allowed under the constitution over peaceful protests? Especially when the protests have been way below the threshold of violence, terror, etc? Do you support the Government having the ability to freeze the bank accounts and steal the contents of trucker protesters with zero due process and oversight?

Here is a guy from the Cato Institute who has been a critic of the protests and even he admits what the government doing is wrong and dangerous:

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I've been a critic of the Ottawa disruptions, but today's edicts underscore how dangerous it is to arm government with the sort of financial and emergency powers that can bypass due process, bring targets to their knees without trial, and shred privacy. Don't let it happen here.
https://twitter.com/walterolson/stat...nJDauufi3IbG9w

Instead of simply acknowledging the the God-given right of his fellow Canadians to make their own personal healthcare decisions, PM Justin Trudeau just declared war on them.
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