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08-15-2020, 01:47 AM
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I think there is too much madness over this election. both sides seem to think the Country will implode if his side loses. remember the celebrities from 2016, who said they would leave the US if Trump won? they're all still here.
I think Trump has taken over the Republican Party, whereas Biden is simply the final piece of the old guard Democrats. I doubt he finishes a 4 year term. but when Trump exits, who follows Trump for the Republicans? he hijacked the Party, even got Cruz, Rubio and other former enemies to suck his dick.
I think it's telling that of the last 3 Republican nominees before Trump, 2 of them are despised (Romney and McCain), the third (Bush jr.) is denigrated. even their Wonder Girl, Palin, is in the background, ignored. meanwhile, among Democrats (fine point, LOL), ALL the remaining living Presidents (Obama, Clinton, Carter) are highly respected and remain in good standing.
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08-15-2020, 11:00 AM
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I think there is too much madness over this election. both sides seem to think the Country will implode if his side loses. remember the celebrities from 2016, who said they would leave the US if Trump won? they're all still here.
I think Trump has taken over the Republican Party, whereas Biden is simply the final piece of the old guard Democrats. I doubt he finishes a 4 year term. but when Trump exits, who follows Trump for the Republicans? he hijacked the Party, even got Cruz, Rubio and other former enemies to suck his dick.
I think it's telling that of the last 3 Republican nominees before Trump, 2 of them are despised (Romney and McCain), the third (Bush jr.) is denigrated. even their Wonder Girl, Palin, is in the background, ignored. meanwhile, among Democrats (fine point, LOL), ALL the remaining living Presidents (Obama, Clinton, Carter) are highly respected and remain in good standing.
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Well respected by whom? Carter is widely regarded as the worst president ever although a very nice man. Clinton is a rapist pedophile. Obama was a do nothing state and us Senator who is a socialist at heart
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08-15-2020, 12:15 PM
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ALL the remaining living Presidents (Obama, Clinton, Carter) are highly respected and remain in good standing.
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The media loves them and does a lots more sucking of their dicks than any republican does of Trump. The confusion comes from so many nut less republicans that are willing to follow someone with balls because they can't do it on their own.
Carter had smaller nuts than the peanuts he raised and we would have been better off with a monkey throwing darts at a board for direction of the country than having him in charge. Clinton, blowjob in the Oval Office and tons of trips with Epstein while ditching secret service. Hes a damn pedophile who should be arrested. Obama, fundamentally hated the United States and has been the root cause to all of the strife that has developed over the past decade.
What would be the response if:
Trump got a blowjob in the white house from a staff member
Trump would have traveled to Epstein's pedo island
Trump would have sent a cargo plane to Iran with cash
Trump would have commuted the sentence of someone who committed treason, Manning
Trump would be spying on the Biden campaign
Trump would have orchestrated FISA warrants against DNC members aligned with Biden campaign
If you think the response to Trump doing any of these things would have resulted in the same responses that the former presidents received, please let me know. I would love to hear the contorted explanation.
Remember Trump got chastised for two scoops when you come up with an explanation.
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08-15-2020, 11:38 PM
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Well respected by whom? Carter is widely regarded as the worst president ever although a very nice man. Clinton is a rapist pedophile. Obama was a do nothing state and us Senator who is a socialist at heart
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respected by Democrats.. I made that abundantly clear. obviously you hate them, as Trumpists despise Bush jr., McCain and Romney.
I saw Trump's "news conference" today, he looked sharp and poised. best he has looked in 6-7 months.. the past month or two has been a disaster. somebody got to him (from his Team), or perhaps the impending death of his Brother eased his normally bellicose stance? whatever it is, the Trump I saw today is the Trump I embraced 4 years ago. if he's the same Trump in the first debate with Biden, it's game over.
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08-16-2020, 07:33 AM
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respected by Democrats.. I made that abundantly clear. obviously you hate them, as Trumpists despise Bush jr., McCain and Romney.
I saw Trump's "news conference" today, he looked sharp and poised. best he has looked in 6-7 months.. the past month or two has been a disaster. somebody got to him (from his Team), or perhaps the impending death of his Brother eased his normally bellicose stance? whatever it is, the Trump I saw today is the Trump I embraced 4 years ago. if he's the same Trump in the first debate with Biden, it's game over.
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Hate is to strong a word for Bush, McCain and Romney. They are squishes. Not true conservatives. And it’s not a trump thing either. I am a Reaganite. Now George H Bush I do come close to hating but it’s more of distrust. I think history will prove he was into some dirty shit
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08-16-2020, 05:28 PM
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What would be the response if:
Trump got a blowjob in the white house from a staff member
Likely the same as Clinton-- another attempt at impeachment.. with the same result as before.
Trump would have traveled to Epstein's pedo island
There is reason to believe he has... once. To his credit-- it appears he did go once, but did not like the goings-on and did not return, even referred to the island as a "cesspool" (this was before he ran for office) .. and ultimately banned creepo from his properties shortly thereafter. I don't think Trump is a pedo-- I do think he's likely been with a girl or two of questionable age-- but I don't believe he seeks children out.
Trump would have sent a cargo plane to Iran with cash
Would likely get the same reaction as Obama in terms of people who don't grasp the difference between giving a nation cash.. and giving them their property back. Mind you-- I don't agree with us having given it back.. but there are way too many people who assume we just gave them OUR tax dollars, which isn't accurate.
Trump would have commuted the sentence of someone who committed treason, Manning
There is talk that he is considering giving a pardon to Snowden...
Trump would be spying on the Biden campaign
I'm confident that both sides are doing everything they can to spy on each other. Opposition research is getting more and more borderline illegal as time goes by.
Trump would have orchestrated FISA warrants against DNC members aligned with Biden campaign
I'd personally be delighted-- and compared to many here, I'm "liberal". I'm 100% with a large portion of the DNC being brought down.
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08-16-2020, 05:42 PM
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What were you smoking? Seems pretty strong - can I have some? ;-) lol
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08-16-2020, 08:57 PM
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08-17-2020, 10:22 PM
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Well respected by whom? Carter is widely regarded as the worst president ever although a very nice man. Clinton is a rapist pedophile. Obama was a do nothing state and us Senator who is a socialist at heart
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And what's the current president?? There's a lot more insulting yet accurate descriptives to use on him.
It'd probably take hours to list them all.
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08-17-2020, 10:50 PM
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And what's the current president?? There's a lot more insulting yet accurate descriptives to use on him.
It'd probably take hours to list them all.
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Just take 5 minutes and list a couple, Randall.
You seem to be so terrified of him, by all means, list some.
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08-17-2020, 10:59 PM
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Yeah, no.
Trump got shit for posting a meme of himself presenting a dog a medal of honor.
He also got shit for reposting a meme of himself at WWE Wrestlemania beating up on Vince McMahon with a CNN logo superimposed on his face.
He got impeached over a whole bunch of heresay.
He, to this day, is being quoted as saying Mexicans are rapists when he announced his Presidency.
And so on.
If you think he wouldn't get ENDLESS SHIT thrown at him for even a 10th of what Obama and Clinton have done, you are being HUGELY dishonest.
Why not just admit you're a lefty, Grace? There's nothing wrong with saying you have partisan views. I have them. A lot of people here clearly do. We've gone through this so many times, and every time before, you afford Democrats all of the benefits of the doubt, but you bitch and moan over mere rhetoric by Trump.
But then you try and weasel by saying "but I hAtE lEfTiEs!" Seriously, be honest with yourself and just admit what you are.
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08-18-2020, 07:18 AM
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I never said "I hate lefties". I have voted on both sides of the aisle. But I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Trump. I did say I am more to the left than the majority of you-- which is accurate. I hate the far left movement-- but I also despise the far right movement.
I'm sure he'd get endless shit for some of the things that Obama, Bush, and Clinton did. However-- I addressed the list that was given.
In regards to Carter--- he is the prime example of the theory that you cannot be a good man and a good President. He was and is a very good man, but one of the worst if not the worst President in modern history.
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08-18-2020, 09:09 AM
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08-18-2020, 01:34 PM
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I never said "I hate lefties". I have voted on both sides of the aisle. But I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Trump. I did say I am more to the left than the majority of you-- which is accurate. I hate the far left movement-- but I also despise the far right movement.
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Another example of you trying to weasel out of your clear partisanship. Your reason for hating Trump : "I don't just don't like the way he says things."
But at the same time, you give Biden clear benefits of the doubt endlessly, deny the reality of his blatantly awful candidacy as right wing attacks and ignore everything awful he's said.
What is your stance on Biden? On what grounds would you vote for him? I'm not picking on you - I am actually genuinely curious. At this point, it's going to be either him or Trump. And since you're completely against Trump, you're effectively for Biden. So why? Elaborate.
It's a clear double standard for you and you're being dishonest by pretending you are against extremes. You have yet to even explain what the extremes of the right are - just that you hate it. Elaborate, please. I mean, for once in any of our exchanges, Grace, it'd be nice if you actually explained something you allegedly stand for/against instead of just grazing it with a general statement and pretend you give both sides an equal shot.
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Dude, you made the biggest whataboutism in regards to spying. And you didn't even fucking cite anything. "Well, Trump probably does it, too" Oh? Then prove it. (But I know you won't) Otherwise, you're ignoring how unbelievably corrupt the Democrats are for a strawman Trump that you want to hate.
See what you did there? You give Democrats ANOTHER chance by saying Republicans do it, too. Seriously, man. Just admit you're a Democrat and be done with it. Stop pretending you have any level of impartiality. What you argue clearly presents otherwise.
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In regards to Carter--- he is the prime example of the theory that you cannot be a good man and a good President. He was and is a very good man, but one of the worst if not the worst President in modern history.
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Another theory is that you can be an eloquent speaker, like Obama, and still be the worst motherfucking POTUS ever.
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08-18-2020, 01:59 PM
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He was and is a very good man, but one of the worst if not the worst President in modern history.
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I wonder how you measure that.... is that because he builds houses for habitat for humanity? I mean what exactly made/makes him such a good man?
Because from my view of the facts, he's the ass hat that condemned millions to death by allowing Iran to become a theocratic shithole... which may still develop nuclear weapons which they will use the first chance afforded them. So you can add the likely future millions that will die in a M.E conflagration brought on by Moslem state terrorists.
The good guy also abandoned American citizens to that same bunch or towel heads. Had we had someone that actually gave two shits about his duty, we'd have turned Tehran into a radioactive parking lot. And think of all the trouble we'd have saved these last 50 years in the M.E. had we just done so.
I'm sorry but your good guy has an ass ton of blood on his hands because he thought Khomeini was a man of God. Carter isn't a good man. He's a simpleton. America and the world is a worse place for his having been President.
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