Biden Administration to distribute 400 Million N95 masks for free

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I knew I had read that some where but when Tiny challenged me on it ( that's ridiculous he said ), I couldn't find anything to back up what I had written so I backed down.


Having said that, I still don't know who the hell to believe about any of this.

Hedonist, you can believe Drs. Wilfredo F. Garcia-Beltran, Kerri J. St. Denis, Angelique Hoelzemer, Evan C. Lam, Adam D. Nitido, Maegan L. Sheehan, Cristhian Berrios, Onosereme Ofoman, Christina C. Chang, Blake M. Hauser,Jared Feldman, Alex L. Roederer, David J. Gregory, Mark C. Poznansky, Aaron G. Schmidt, A. John Iafrate, Vivek Naranbhai, Alejandro B. Balazs, David S. Khoury, Megan Steain, James A. Triccas, Alex Sigal, Miles P. Davenport, and Deborah Cromer, authors of the papers linked below. Or you can believe Shariraye Patriots. It's easy peasy.

The first paper below, a metastudy, predicts that six months after primary immunisation with an mRNA vaccine, efficacy for Omicron is estimated to have waned to around 40% against symptomatic and 80% against severe disease. A booster dose with an existing mRNA vaccine (even though it targets the ancestral spike) has the potential to raise efficacy for Omicron to 86.2% against symptomatic infection and 98.2% against severe infection.

The second paper basically says serums from individuals who have been vaccinated but not boosted don't effectively neutralize Omicron, but individuals boosted with mRNA vaccines exhibited potent neutralization of Omicron.

Nobody reputable is saying you're more likely to get Omicron if you're vaccinated.

The message is to get the booster.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21267748v2

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S...674(21)01496-3

Where did this B.S. arise? From a UK analysis of 1816 people, all of whom tested positive for COVID-19, back when Omicron was not the dominant variant in Britain. People with 3 vaccine shots accounted for 185 COVID-19 infections, 21 of which were Omicron. And unvaccinated had 536 infections, of which 14 were Omicron. This doesn't show the vaccinated and boosted are more likely to get Omicron. All this shows is that the vaccines are more effective in preventing infection by the other variants than they are in preventing infection by Omicron. In the study, unvaccinated people were more likely to get ANY variant, including Omicron, than vaccinated people:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...g-key-context/

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Here is a list of 8 things the Biden admin is actively pursuing with all alacrity:

One thing Alinsky left out. The first thing you must do is get your puppet. The clip below explains it.


https://youtu.be/ImyKXtM4INc

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

The critical and operative words:...



Comment: https://www.eccie.net/newreply.php?d...y&p=1062721477

"Deaths" from what?

[/IMG]

This brief section on deaths in the CDC link is just a couple of paragraphs from the statement you pulled on the number of cases. If you have a problem with the CDC, take it up with them.

The current 7-day moving average of new deaths (1,749) has decreased 0.3% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (1,754). As of January 19, 2022, a total of 856,288 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the United States.

856,288
Total Deaths Reported

1,749
Current 7-Day Average*

1,754
Prior 7-Day Average

-0.3%
Change in 7-Day Average Since Prior Week

Peoples lungs are being filled with SARS_CoV_2 virus and you think it's a hoax or no big deal. When Trumps oxygen level dropped under 95% the put him on the monoclonal antibodies and the Remdisivir. Dr Ben Carson was taking the "My Pillow guy's" remedy for CoVid. Carson's symptoms got worse so he went to Trump to get approved for the monoclonal antibodies. CoVid is no joke.

You can register your car online, but you can't vote on line?

Speaking of cheating what about Trump calling up the Govenor of Georgia demanding that he finds Trump several thousand votes.

Last point your hero Bush43 killed more people in Ag than Obama/Biden. You don't think the Tallyband should have been kicked out of AG? They planned the 911 attack with OBL not Saddam from Iraq. You okay with that 4 Trillion that was spent in Iraq?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Peoples lungs are being filled with SARS_CoV_2 virus and you think it's a hoax or no big deal.

So now you are pretending to read my mine and replace my thoughts with your propaganda bullshit?

You are the one posting numbers from a government website pretending they are accurate & "official" when the REALTY is the CDC posts they are "reported" and NOT ACCURATE!

How many people do you know who have died from Covid? And how do you know they did?

You demonstrate you know absolutely NOTHING about the value of "reported" information from the government, but you desire to virtually imprison people, have people fired from their jobs, prohibit people from being educated, and ridicule and marginalize people for NOT sitting down and say NOTHING about fabricated numbers based on an unvetted statistical report transmitted to the government so the "reporter" can get more tax dollars.

The same government/administration that claimed Rittenhouse was a "White Supremacist" and media who claimed he killed Black people peacefully protesting in a BLM gathering!

Good luck with that shit! In your bullshit enthusiasm you've forgotten an old saying:

"The shoe is on the other foot soon enough!" And it may just be a little snug for you!

According to your education you've only gotten one piece of ass in the past 10 years!

And you had to leave the country to get that ONE!

I will repeat what I did post although it was directed at you, it certain fits:

When you learn the differences and distinctions....between "official" and "reported," your opinion will become at least marginally valuable... you obviously have ZERO experience in completing and/or reviewing statistical reporting forms for U.S. Federal funding programs and reviewing the supporting document from which those stats are reported.

Before you begin to support the government dictating our personal lives and prohibiting lawful citizens from living their lives in freedom you might want to require the government to justify those actions based on VERIFIED FACTS and not media bullshit generated from bogus claims to increase the receipt of taxpayer funds. I supported the unslaving and unsegregation based on a superficial characteristic without intelligent distinctions. I thought you might have, but apparently NOT!

This took five minutes of my time:

https://nbc16.com/news/coronavirus/e...immunity-study

Before you start advocating mandatory citizen detention and medical treatment you might want to look around and see some of the flaws in the "government stats" .... or you might end up in a line of people who are being removed from society to protect those in power over you. "Elections have consequences!"

[bambino]

17000 DOCTORS

https://t.me/rrndaily/171311

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bambino

17000 DOCTORS

https://t.me/rrndaily/171311

Bullshit.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Why_Yes_I_Do, Your questions are irrelevant to explaining why 503,000 more people died in the USA in 2020 compared to 2019. However, answers are,

• Your answer of total deaths doesn't remotely address the OP of masks getting distributed 2 years into the event either, so not sure where you're headed there.

- Do you believe that all deaths from the covid were medically coded/recorded per existing law? No
- Do you perceive a difference between "from" the covid vs "with" the covid? Yes
- Do you believe the PCR test was highly accurate and developed and calibrated to detect the covid? It was developed in the 80's. It was not developed to detect COVID. By my definition, it is not highly accurate. It IDENTIFIES MANY MORE FALSE NEGATIVES THAN FALSE POSITIVES. That may be part of why COVID-19 cases and deaths have been undercounted.
- Do you know that the PCR test was removed from use for detecting the covid on Dec 31, 2021? This is not true.

• To the first three: So we all can quit talking about the covid cases and deaths, given that we all agree the data is entirely tainted and completely unreliable. Right? Good! BTW: with new at home, instant results testing, there is further tainting of whether a covid positive/negative even gets reported to anyone except the user. Buh-buy data integrity.
  
• Specifically to #3: The paper that claimed the PCR could be jiggered to detect the covid was publish Jan 21, 2020 and specifically stated an isolated sample was not available to calibrate their own assertions. (bear in mind, barely anyone had heard of the covid by then as the first reported case was in Washington state on Jan 15, 2020 [graphic below]) The paper was peer reviewed on Nov 27, 2020 - which found 10 critical errors in the original paper.
• To the fourth question: Dang! Maybe I got burned on another unreliable source. To be open, I knew the site was sketchy, but ran with it anyway. I'll post it below.
  

As to your other points, I'm better at grade school math than most of the posters here. On occasion when speaking with women, I have not initially been able to distinguish between "yes" and "no", which has, from time to time, brought pain and heartache into my life.

• That right there is another difference between us, i.e. discerning the difference between yes/no. I can, though I may choose the opposite anyway, as it suits me.

1st case of the covid reported in US on Jan 15, 2020 and some other random things going on at same time:




Regarding that sketchy site reporting on sun-setting of the PCR test (URL embedded). I highlighted a section where they essentially admit that the PCR test didn't necessarily know the difference between the covid and regular flu in their request to sun-set PCR and use different methods.

07/21/2021: Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing

Audience: Individuals Performing COVID-19 Testing
Level: Laboratory Alert

After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.

Visit the FDA website for a list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods. For a summary of the performance of FDA-authorized molecular methods with an FDA reference panel, visit this page.

In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing...

So the long and the short of it is that I see your fascination on increase in deaths, as all the covid cases & deaths data are essentially tainted and are basically garbage. So good on you. I'll post in another thread about overall deaths. But it is not the full story either, but some interesting trends and points are to be found.

BTW: The above article also implies why the flu practically disappeared in that same year. Go figure.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Hedonist, you can believe Drs. Wilfredo F. Garcia-Beltran, Kerri J. St. Denis, Angelique Hoelzemer, Evan C. Lam, Adam D. Nitido, Maegan L. Sheehan, Cristhian Berrios, Onosereme Ofoman, Christina C. Chang, Blake M. Hauser,Jared Feldman, Alex L. Roederer, David J. Gregory, Mark C. Poznansky, Aaron G. Schmidt, A. John Iafrate, Vivek Naranbhai, Alejandro B. Balazs, David S. Khoury, Megan Steain, James A. Triccas, Alex Sigal, Miles P. Davenport, and Deborah Cromer, authors of the papers linked below. Or you can believe Shariraye Patriots. It's easy peasy.

The first paper below, a metastudy, predicts that six months after primary immunisation with an mRNA vaccine, efficacy for Omicron is estimated to have waned to around 40% against symptomatic and 80% against severe disease. A booster dose with an existing mRNA vaccine (even though it targets the ancestral spike) has the potential to raise efficacy for Omicron to 86.2% against symptomatic infection and 98.2% against severe infection.

The second paper basically says serums from individuals who have been vaccinated but not boosted don't effectively neutralize Omicron, but individuals boosted with mRNA vaccines exhibited potent neutralization of Omicron.

Nobody reputable is saying you're more likely to get Omicron if you're vaccinated.

The message is to get the booster.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21267748v2

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S...674(21)01496-3

Where did this B.S. arise? From a UK analysis of 1816 people, all of whom tested positive for COVID-19, back when Omicron was not the dominant variant in Britain. People with 3 vaccine shots accounted for 185 COVID-19 infections, 21 of which were Omicron. And unvaccinated had 536 infections, of which 14 were Omicron. This doesn't show the vaccinated and boosted are more likely to get Omicron. All this shows is that the vaccines are more effective in preventing infection by the other variants than they are in preventing infection by Omicron. In the study, unvaccinated people were more likely to get ANY variant, including Omicron, than vaccinated people:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...g-key-context/

While Dr. Robert Malone, one of the scientist credited with the MNRA vaccine did not say ( to my knowledge ) that the boosted are MORE likely to catch Omicron, he did say that THIS vaccine, is completely useless against Omicron because this vaccine was developed from the original strain and Omicron is very different. And he said that since a booster MRNA will do nothing to prevent the infection and spread of Omicron, a mandate for the booster is ridiculous and mandating any available vaccine, at this point, is senseless.


So I shouldn't listen to the scientist who actually developed the vaccine? I'm pretty damn sure that some of these "scientists" are basing their opinions on politics and not science. I just don't know who is who.


While I at 74 have decided to error on the side of the vaccine, I'm still against all mandates, period.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

While Dr. Robert Malone, one of the scientist credited with the MNRA vaccine did not say ( to my knowledge ) that the boosted are MORE likely to catch Omicron, he did say that THIS vaccine, is completely useless against Omicron because this vaccine was developed from the original strain and Omicron is very different. And he said that since a booster MRNA will do nothing to prevent the infection and spread of Omicron, a mandate for the booster is ridiculous and mandating any available vaccine, at this point, is senseless.


So I shouldn't listen to the scientist who actually developed the vaccine? I'm pretty damn sure that some of these "scientists" are basing their opinions on politics and not science. I just don't know who is who.


While I at 74 have decided to error on the side of the vaccine, I'm still against all mandates, period.

Played a part in the development of the mRNA vaccine is more accurate. I remember reading an article where one of his former colleagues said he trashed his chances for a Nobel prize when he went slightly bsc. Another said he exaggerates the part he played in development of the mRNA vaccines. Why? Maybe he likes getting the popularity, getting interviewed by Joe Rogan and Steve Bannon and the like. Maybe he’s doing this, like you said, because of the politics. Maybe he’s gone over to the dark side like Paul Krugman

I see your point though. The vaccines aren’t as effective as we’d like in preventing Omicron infection. It’s why I’m holding off on a second booster, even though they’re recommending them in Israel for certain people. I believe Pfizer has an Omicron specific vaccine in clinical trials and others are working on a general coronavirus vaccine that will work for SARS, COVID 19, and even the common cold. Maybe better to wait for one of those.

And yeah mandates are fast becoming a nonissue. How many people do you know who both haven’t been vaccinated and haven’t gotten COVID? I can’t think of anyone I know, not counting a few who think they got COVID or had COVID symptoms but never got tested.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Played a part in the development of the mRNA vaccine is more accurate. I remember reading an article where one of his former colleagues said he trashed his chances for a Nobel prize when he went slightly bsc. Another said he exaggerates the part he played in development of the mRNA vaccines. Why? Maybe he likes getting the popularity, getting interviewed by Joe Rogan and Steve Bannon and the like. Maybe he’s doing this, like you said, because of the politics. Maybe he’s gone over to the dark side like Paul Krugman.


Maybe, maybe, maybe, hence my statement, "I don't know who the hell to believe".


I see your point though. The vaccines aren’t as effective as we’d like in preventing Omicron infection. It’s why I’m holding off on a second booster, even though they’re recommending them in Israel for certain people. I believe Pfizer has an Omicron specific vaccine in clinical trials and others are working on a general coronavirus vaccine that will work for SARS, COVID 19, and even the common cold. Maybe better to wait for one of those.

And yeah mandates are fast becoming a nonissue. How many people do you know who both haven’t been vaccinated and haven’t gotten COVID? I can’t think of anyone I know, not counting a few who think they got COVID or had COVID symptoms but never got tested.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/10704...reate-whiplash

"There is no control of the omicron wave," said Sharon Alroy-Preis, the Health Ministry's top public health official on Israel's Channel 13 this week.

"Probably no one is protected from infection," said Jonathan Halevy, president of Shaare Zedek Medical Center in Jerusalem on Tuesday.

Which begs the question, "why boosters that don't effect Omicron"?

[Tiny]

So, in the same article, why does the health minister seem to lament they can’t roll out the fourth shots fast enough. If you’re vaccinated and boosted you have some protection against infection and strong protection against death and hospitalization. With time that protection will wane, true. I’d still a lot rather build immunity with vaccines instead of the diseases.

Omicron is less fatal than preceding variants. Question: How much of that is because of the nature of the virus and how much is because people have immunity, from vaccines and prior disease?

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Tiny

...I see your point though. The vaccines aren’t as effective as we’d like in preventing Omicron infection....

Or Delta or likely any forthcoming variant. You may or may not recall I've posted about "Original Antigenic Sin". Nutshell version; when exposed for the first time to a virus (in this case) and your body fights and wins the battle, you are protected from it and likely it's previous variants. Though there is a chance you could be protected from a future one if it is similar enough.

Catch variant A and survive, protected from A and maybe B.
Catch variant D and survive, protected from variants A-D and maybe E.

Comes down to the length of the memory of how your body fended it off. T-cells having a longer term memory if I remember correctly. Which is what Malone and others have been saying about never trying to vaccinate yourself in the middle of a pandemic. Typical behaviour of a virus is to mutate and typically mutates out after 4 variants +/-. Spanish flu took 4 before it was gone into oblivion.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Omicron is less fatal than preceding variants.

Omicron is "less fatal" than driving an automobile.

Keeping up the "pandemic" chant won't support a voting process change.

You all count "covid" & "Omicron" deaths and "cases" like you do votes! No PROOF!

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Tiny

So, in the same article, why does the health minister seem to lament they can’t roll out the fourth shots fast enough...

Because the virus is faster and better at mutating than the scientists are at anticipating/guessing? Or maybe it's just politics or narcissism or hubris or greed or all of the above.


In the below, recall the cash register rings - Ka-ching! - upon entry (and an Angel-investor gets it's wings)

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Because the virus is faster and better at mutating than the scientists are at anticipating/guessing?

Which explains the departure of legitimate medical/scientists from the CDC oversight board, because they won't sign off on recommending public consumption of drugs in the absence of honest and thorough research with proof of efficacy apart from the pharma company's boastful representations. Afterwards the CDC began a slow retreat and continues to do so.

One can review the various forums on here and determine who prefers NOT TO HAVE VOTER IDs by their automatic acceptance of government representations of data collected from "REPORTS" without authentication of the representations in the "REPORTS." They are just sheep following Bitten/Kumola, the judas goats!

Has anyone asked them why they wouldn't take the vaccines created during Trump's administration, but they will TODAY and MAKE THEM MANDATORY ON EVERYONE ELSE?

Were they LYING THEN or are THEY LYING NOW? Or were they LYING BOTH TIMES?