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Old 04-28-2014, 03:24 PM   #196
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I did cite the authority. The Constitution and the Northwest Ordinance. Neither of which have been superseded by amendment which would be the proper way of going about things. Alabama was not an original colony. The territory that became Alabama was ceded back to the US as a territory by Georgia. It then became a state in 1819 and challenged federal authority over it's sovereignty and won. That is the authority.
You need to re-read the Constitution, the Northwest Ordinance, and Pollard's Lessee v. Hagan, because none of them appear to say what you think they say.

You cited Article 1, Section 8. However, Article 1, Section 8, specifies some of the powers of Congress, but has nothing to do with the admission of new states.

The admission of new states is covered by Article 4, Section 3, which states:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."


This says pretty much the OPPOSITE of what you wrote.

That is why Congress does have the power to impose conditions on states being admitted. For example, Congress required that some state be admitted a free states or slave states prior to the Civil War, Congress required Utah to outlaw polygamy, etc.

And Pollard's Lessee applied to Alabama's sovereignty over its own land (in this case, land beneath navigable waterways). Pollard's Lessee didn't give Alabama or any other state rights over federal lands within their borders.

To the contrary, the Supreme Court has expressly limited state powers over federal lands within a state's border.

Interpreting Article 4, the Supreme Court has ruled that "the Federal Property and Territory Clause or Property Clause gives the United States Congress exclusive authority to set rules and regulations for the management of public lands. For example, pursuant to a parallel clause in Article One, Section Eight, the Supreme Court has held that states may not tax such federal property. In another case, Kleppe v. New Mexico, the Court ruled that the Federal Wild Horse and Burro Act was a constitutional exercise of congressional power under the Property Clause at least insofar as it was applied to prohibit the New Mexico Livestock Board from entering upon the public lands of the United States and removing wild burros under the New Mexico Estray Law.

Here is the Wiki cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article...s_Constitution

And the Northwest Ordinance didn't change any of that.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:50 PM   #197
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the Bundy case is another example of people getting it or not getting it. If they don't get it theres no explanation that will EVER help them get it because they DONT want to get it. The BLM is there for a reason, and that reason is to protect idiots just like the idiots that refuse to understand they are being protected.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:26 PM   #198
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The BLM is there for a reason, and that reason is to protect idiots just like the idiots that refuse to understand they are being protected.
How's it working out for you?
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:28 PM   #199
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You need to re-read the Constitution,


Here is the Wiki cite:
West Publishing Company is going to be pissed. You have replaced it.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:13 PM   #200
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How's it working out for you?


dumbass question even for you

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West Publishing Company is going to be pissed. You have replaced it.
You've got to use Wiki to keep it simple for the simpletons like IBHankering.

WestLaw and Lexus are WAY over their heads.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:03 PM   #202
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"See Spot Run" is over their heads.
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OLD-Tyrant and nyRINOer need to shut their Ocock Suckers...
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:03 PM   #204
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OLD-Tyrant and nyRINOer need to shut their Ocock Suckers...
You clever little boy!
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You clever little boy!
I got one question for you...
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:35 PM   #206
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You're a fucking idjit.

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You're a fucking idjit.

You will do. Here is my question...


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OLD-Tyrant and nyRINOer need to shut their Ocock Suckers...
You're a disgusting little misogynist.

Just how obsessed are you with denigrating Michelle Obama, twerp? I have never seen anyone attack a first lady the way you do. Are you going to attack Obama's kids next?
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dumbass question even for you

Slight correction: "dumbass question even for" a hypocritical, condescending asshole

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You've got to use Wiki to keep it simple for the simpletons like IBHankering.

WestLaw and Lexus are WAY over their heads.
It's Lexis, and over yours, apparently.
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