Sugar Daddy/ Sugar Baby Dating

[Gotyour6]

Lol,
My past history with hookers is back page

If that is what you go by then I feel bad for you.
But then again, I am talking to a 40 year old hooker lol

Oh and you can call yourself a "Courtesan" to make yourself feel better.

I have more respect for the girls that know who they are

from your reviews..
Session Length: 2 hrs
Fee: $$$


So 150 an hour??

I got that lol

Courtesan at 150 an hour.

You are like buying something at Target instead of Walmart.
More money for the same thing.

[Ninotsugi]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Lol,
My past history with hookers is back page

If that is what you go by then I feel bad for you.
But then again, I am talking to a 40 year old hooker lol

Oh and you can call yourself a "Courtesan" to make yourself feel better.

I have more respect for the girls that know who they are

from your reviews..
Session Length: 2 hrs
Fee: $$$


So 150 an hour??

I got that lol

Courtesan at 150 an hour.

You are like buying something at Target instead of Walmart.
More money for the same thing.

Repetition... of the same Insult is getting you nowhere,
I see you believe your somewhat proficient in adding numbers together try this one on for size:

Gotyour6 + His Brain =

[Gotyour6]

Well it looks like the 150 an hour has put you below anyone that I have seen and now your insults or name calling comes out.

Rather than admit a mistake, when an argument is blown away, most people resort to “Plan B” – the personal attack. If a victory cannot be won on the battleground of ideas, one must try to make the opponent out to be defective. That’s when the name calling starts. It’s an attempt to save face and resurrect a dead argument.

In the past, I would get riled up when someone would call me names, or attempt to belittle my side of an argument. Then I realized that getting mad was exactly what they wanted me to do. I was playing right into their hand. That’s when I decided that I would not give them that pleasure anymore. Let me tell you, there are times when it takes great restraint to do this, but it’s worth the effort.

I will tell you that it became easier once I began to see their taunts for what they really are… a sign of desperation.

[Guest030824]

Gotyour6
I have often thought we need a Dislike button on the bottom of all posts.

[Ninotsugi]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

I will tell you that it became easier once I began to see their taunts for what they really are… a sign of desperation.

Please... do not play me into your Self Perceived Reality,
I'm certain some $20 Hooker would be quite Honored to have you as her Sugar-Daddy!

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=411415 $20.00

[sketchball82]

Shit's getting real.

I don't get the deal with all the random emphasis though. It makes me feel like I'm about to have an epileptic episode. (I'm just being a smart ass.)

... and as always...

*popcorn* (time to relax and enjoy this shit... better than Jerry Springer)

[sketchball82]

Originally Posted by Ninotsugi

Please... do not play me into your Self Perceived Reality,
I'm certain some $20 Hooker would be quite Honored to have you as her Sugar-Daddy!

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=411415 $20.00

$20 does not mean 20 dollars on these forums....

[Tetas]

Originally Posted by sketchball82

I don't get the deal with all the random emphasis though. It makes me feel like I'm about to have an epileptic episode. (I'm just being a smart ass.)

Just shows you're not intelligent enough to read the writings of a true Courtesan.

[Ninotsugi]

Originally Posted by riday

Just shows you're not intelligent enough to read the writings of a true Courtesan.

I'll Be Damned Riday... if you wont be the first Pig I ever Kissed, YOU SWEET THING YOU!!!

[belleAmore]

hey so on a serious note......I've been reading this thread(minus the bullshit) and am curious if any providers have had successful sd/sb relations with a client they met on Eccie? If so, how did you handle seeing other clients, while still tending to your SD. Did it end badly? What arrangement did you have? I am still planning to continue in the hobby but want to be able to give proper attention to my SD.


On the other hand, if there are any sugar daddies reading this....feel free to extend helpful experiences.

[DJQualls]

You just shot yourself in the foot. Most of us avoid providers as potential SB's unless she covers her tracks very well.

Best of luck to you!

Originally Posted by belleAmore

hey so on a serious note......I've been reading this thread(minus the bullshit) and am curious if any providers have had successful sd/sb relations with a client they met on Eccie? If so, how did you handle seeing other clients, while still tending to your SD. Did it end badly? What arrangement did you have? I am still planning to continue in the hobby but want to be able to give proper attention to my SD.


On the other hand, if there are any sugar daddies reading this....feel free to extend helpful experiences.

[atlcomedy]

As others have said. Great post. I too find myself reading these circular threads on SB/SD and they are so pointless. I want to respond but they are so crazy I find little value in doing so. So usually I don't... It is like talking to a wall.

The only add I have on your nearly perfect post is: It takes effort. Saying "I want a SB(SD)..." isn't going to find you (the right) one(s) anymore than saying "I want to be thin or rich" (or any of the other countless New Year's Resolutions millions of us will make and not keep) will make you thin or rich.

Originally Posted by JayceeRivers

I cannot resist answering sugar baby/sugar daddy threads. My Achilles heal when it comes to having an opinion.

I have said it before and will state again. There are no two alike. They are subjective to the individual. No one person is wrong in their unique vision. No more than any normal relationship is wrong in their desires. To one man a "hooker on demand" is a sugar baby. No another a desperate college student who is just looking for a no commitment tryst with a wealthy man is a sugar baby.

Not every arrangement entails car's, diamonds and trips to paris. The only common thread one can pluck from the varying definitions is "sugar" Each giving something to the other in excess. Consider the word sugar for a moment. Sweet, unnecessary and once considered rare. Yes many years ago but work of that premise.

The sugar baby gives her sugar daddy sugar in the form of adoration, physical passion, attention, time, compliments, and companionship. If he does not FEEL like the most desired man on the planet and luckiest guy on earth when he is with her, she is not doing her side. Her job is to make sure he feels appreciated, intelligent, funny, interesting and overall take away the stress of the rest of his world when he needs her to do so. This may involve her needing to take the time to text him throughout the week often. Talking to him on the phone. making sure she is available to him in person when he needs/wants her to be. Being conscious and thankful for the things he does do and not complain or demand when she wants more. Don't get me wrong if she feels she needs/wants more a delicate conversation to discuss her needs should be broached, however she should not be demanding or brash. A spoiled brat making demands does nothing to make anyone feel anything but used. She should not be another stress to his life.

The sugar daddy returns with financial support, often stroking her vanity, offering new experiences and even giving her gifts she would either not purchase for herself or cannot afford to do so. This can range from simply just getting to travel with him and nothing else, all the way to having all of her bills paid in full with an allowance on the side and gifts in between. From a helpful mentor to a lavish gift giver. If the sugar baby is struggling financially, looks or feels dilapidated, and/or is missing tons of work/school to be with him HE is not doing his job. She should feel secure enough that if she needs to take time off of working or her education at his behest that she will not struggle financially. No matter what her job is.

Can escorts/providers be sugar babies. Yes. In fact they may make better sugarbabys IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH. Her job does not cement her personality. Not all escorts/providers are money hungry evil women looking to get her next fix on some addictive substance. Not all wealthy men are generous, kind and gentlemanly. Just as not every woman can be a sugar baby not every man can be a sugar daddy.

Know what you want before you go out looking. If you want to be a sugar baby don't go in without knowing what you can give and what you need AND want from the situation. Be prepared to compromise to a certain extent and allow yourself to be you. Be friends, be lovers and confidants. Enjoy him for more than just the wallet or find another. As a sugar daddy be prepared to give materially. be understanding that she is a human being. She may get sick, have family problems, may simply have a bad day.

Why do I feel like SOME providers may make better sugar babies? Simply because likely she has a higher libido and is more interested in satisfying your physical needs as well as her own. She has had more experience satisfying gentlemen mentally, physically, and emotionally. She endeavors to make you feel good. She is far less likely to want to become your wife and step over boundaries that are set.

Yes the drawback is she may be tainted by the money mindset. example: "You are only giving me 1000 a month plus gifts but I spend 3 days a week with you at least. I can make 1000-3000 in those three days if I was seeing clients" That is the biggest fear that I see consistently regurgitated. I appreciate that fear. However understand that mind set is simply a fear of her own. After all it is usually the sugar daddy that does the moving on. What if she is completely reliant on him and then he finds a newer younger version? What if he gets bored? This fear particularly is seeded in those asked to be completely monogamous and/or stop working. The money mindset is easily overcome. Both parties simply need to be open and honest about what they want and need at the start. Be understanding about each others opinions and thoughts on the subject as well as limitations. Find a compromise that will allay both sets of fears. This may include allowing her to continue to escort and accept her chosen occupation with grace or bump up the anti. find a way to alleviate her fears. She may need to prove herself. I have had many sugar daddies throughout the years. One of the ways I have found to help alleviate his fears that I am lying or manipulating him for more money is, I get a bluebird card. a main one and a connecting student one. This way he can put in the card what he feels comfortable with AND monitor where I am spending this money. If I say I am paying a sprint bill with it, he can see I indeed paid that bill with the money he gave me. This helps build trust. As a sugar baby I go out of my way to avoid making it purely about monetary spending and receiving. Yes I am given gifts, money, and trips. However at the start I sit down and discuss what I want, what I expect and what he can expect from me in return. Aside from a quarterly check in to make sure we are both fulfilling our sides I do not ask for anything after that. I leave it in his hands and trust him to fulfill his promises just as he trusts me not to abuse his generosity.

A normal girl in the normal world may or may not be as inclined to be intuitive and try to please her partner. Specially if she is of the younger variety. She may produce more excuses to avoid the bedroom. Yes she is happier with the smaller arrangements but she is likely not going out of her way to know YOU. A normal girl can come with the drawbacks of falling in love and wanting more. She may be more inclined to be indecisive and unsure of what she wants. Her bedroom experience is likely not as developed. The upsides to the normal girls has been stated but for the sake of this long post I feel it necessary to add. She is not tainted by the money for the hour mindset. She is less likely to be sleeping with more than just you. Everything you do that is even moderate could be seen as the most amazing, mouth dropping, heart stopping gift she has ever received. She is often more appreciative. Less demanding. Of course that is not all normal girls. I knew a normal girl who was not an escort who once told me "if my boyfriend does not buy me jimmy choo and Armani he is not worth my time." She was very high maintenance.

The point of this long winded post is simple. If the sugar daddy to be wants a normal girl that does not make him wrong. If he just wants to pay her car payment and nothing else that is not wrong. If he wants to buy her a car and fly her to exotic places he is not wrong. No two arrangements are exactly alike. No two people are exactly the same. Not all escorts make bad sugar babies and not every normal woman makes a good sugar baby. It is as individual and unique as every other type of relationship one can fathom.

[JayceeRivers]

First, thank you everyone for the compliments to my post. And you are completely right Atlcomedy. It does take work. Effort must be made. Sugar daddies don't simply show up at your door simply because you desire one. After you have potential interest you simply cannot sit back and expect to instantly be pampered. It takes getting to know your partner. Fulfilling each others needs and desires. Putting in that extra time and thought so he feels and knows he is special. Which brings me to belle's question.

Originally Posted by belleAmore

hey so on a serious note......I've been reading this thread(minus the bullshit) and am curious if any providers have had successful sd/sb relations with a client they met on Eccie? If so, how did you handle seeing other clients, while still tending to your SD. Did it end badly? What arrangement did you have? I am still planning to continue in the hobby but want to be able to give proper attention to my SD.


On the other hand, if there are any sugar daddies reading this....feel free to extend helpful experiences.

I have had at least 3 from eccie. All three were lurkers one eventually became a moderate poster. Two ended well and one did not end at all. I was upfront and honest with them. That was the most important part. Lying no matter how small or insignificant to you, can be a big thing for your SD. It destroys trust. So even if it was embarrassing or uncomfortable I made sure to be honest. If it came upon a subject I did not wish to discuss I simply stated I didn't feel comfortable discussing it. So honesty. For all three of them we sat down and discussed what they wanted and needed from me first and foremost. Did they want me to spend the whole weekend with them? One day a week? Trips? traveling? Did they want to go out or stay in more often? What did they want to get out of this? Once I knew what they wanted from me I could use intuition to see what they needed from me. The more I got to know them the more I could preemptively fill their unspoken needs. My current arrangement he only wants a single day a week that is all his. With the occasional overnight. With this in mind I make sure to schedule a day every week in advance around his schedule. Even if he has to cancel it is his day. I refuse to make plans on that day. Very similar with the previous two. One particular arrangement I had did not like the idea of me being with someone the night before I was with him. In that case I took two days out of my schedule. Basically it comes down to communication and honesty. Most arrangements can end well if you remember that they are human beings an people. Cutting off contact when it's over is cruel and reinforces the idea you only liked them for the money. Be understanding if and when it ends and often you can remain friends after.

Another thing I did/do is when I have an arrangement that desires more of my time or wishes to share me less, I raise my donation. This culls out sifting through masses of interest, meets my financial needs and I see far fewer clients without having to ask my SD for further financial assistance than he is comfortable with.

On a completely unrelated note: Belle if I was independently wealthy I would most certainly volunteer to be your sugar momma.

[belleAmore]

Originally Posted by JayceeRivers

First, thank you everyone for the compliments to my post. And you are completely right Atlcomedy. It does take work. Effort must be made. Sugar daddies don't simply show up at your door simply because you desire one. After you have potential interest you simply cannot sit back and expect to instantly be pampered. It takes getting to know your partner. Fulfilling each others needs and desires. Putting in that extra time and thought so he feels and knows he is special. Which brings me to belle's question.





I have had at least 3 from eccie. All three were lurkers one eventually became a moderate poster. Two ended well and one did not end at all. I was upfront and honest with them. That was the most important part. Lying no matter how small or insignificant to you, can be a big thing for your SD. It destroys trust. So even if it was embarrassing or uncomfortable I made sure to be honest. If it came upon a subject I did not wish to discuss I simply stated I didn't feel comfortable discussing it. So honesty. For all three of them we sat down and discussed what they wanted and needed from me first and foremost. Did they want me to spend the whole weekend with them? One day a week? Trips? traveling? Did they want to go out or stay in more often? What did they want to get out of this? Once I knew what they wanted from me I could use intuition to see what they needed from me. The more I got to know them the more I could preemptively fill their unspoken needs. My current arrangement he only wants a single day a week that is all his. With the occasional overnight. With this in mind I make sure to schedule a day every week in advance around his schedule. Even if he has to cancel it is his day. I refuse to make plans on that day. Very similar with the previous two. One particular arrangement I had did not like the idea of me being with someone the night before I was with him. In that case I took two days out of my schedule. Basically it comes down to communication and honesty. Most arrangements can end well if you remember that they are human beings an people. Cutting off contact when it's over is cruel and reinforces the idea you only liked them for the money. Be understanding if and when it ends and often you can remain friends after.

Another thing I did/do is when I have an arrangement that desires more of my time or wishes to share me less, I raise my donation. This culls out sifting through masses of interest, meets my financial needs and I see far fewer clients without having to ask my SD for further financial assistance than he is comfortable with.

On a completely unrelated note: Belle if I was independently wealthy I would most certainly volunteer to be your sugar momma.

Thank you so much for taking the time to give so much helpful info. I'm going to pm you about some quick questions k!


And........here I come sugar momma!!!!

[CRISTY-CUPPS]

Ok I may be a little long winded so bare with me. Its 2 weeks to the anniversary of my husbands painful death. I miss him every day and have a hard time with the grief, especially this time of year.

This dear man was new to the hobby and had visited a few providers before SEEKING ME OUT.
We were both single and he was 22 years older then me.
We met for 1 session only before he told a mutual provider friend he wanted to be my SD ... and more. His "pretty woman" he loved that movie.

He went about it in all the right ways, first with a few more paid sessions, dinners out, whatever I wanted and within 3 months he rented me a very nice condo in New orleans. I still had the option to see clients also if I wanted.

He paid my rent and expenses, but I still paid my own personal bills like my car.
In time he paid for everything and gave me credit cards, even bought me a summer beach home in SC.

I asked a "seasoned" provider what she thought of becoming a SB, dependant on a SD and she basically told me I was stupid- umm she was the stupid one and I thank god I was smart enough to see it.

A year later we were married and I was his pride and joy- a trophy wife to him.

A few months after our wedding he started to become ill and was diagnosed with a form of terminal cancer. He was not sick at all when we met or married. No one knows what god has in store for us. Nine months after his diagnosis he passed and I was the only one at his bedside. He was loved by me and he knew this. It was the hardest thing I ever went through to bury my husband. A young widow.

This dear man changed my life forever and I thank god for him everyday. I now live by the ocean in a beautiful home in Florida and I never want for anything- for the rest of my life Im set because he loved me that much and made arrangements for me.

SB/SD relationships can work and I am proof of that- but you have to be two very special people.

Please dont criticize my post, its just my story and I needed to share. I still mourn his death so please respect this.
If you dont like my story please dont be disrespectful it would cut like a knife.

I just wanted the men & women out there looking for a sb/sd relationship to know that it can be wonderful and bitter sweet and change lives.

--- And besides that how many times have providers said they could write a book on what they have experienced! Its not a book, but it is my story. I hope I dont regret telling it