The 2020 Presidential Election

[Precious_b]

Ain't nothing wrong with reversing a decision.
Clinton did it a few times. And he said he did such when he realized the previous path wasn't working.
Big person to say that they are wrong. Bigger to correct their mistake.

Of course Trump never says he is wrong.

[Austin Ellen]

Oh that Joe Biden is a hoot! He said he marched in the Civil Rights movement with tens of thousands of others to change attitudes. Haha - he didn't. So this white man is lying to get the African American vote and in the worse way. Google it.
Personally, I think old Joe is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
He'll fuck you every which way but up.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Oh that Joe Biden is a hoot! He said he marched in the Civil Rights movement with tens of thousands of others to change attitudes. Haha - he didn't. So this white man is lying to get the African American vote and in the worse way. Google it.
Personally, I think old Joe is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
He'll fuck you every which way but up.

Again, you seem to be dismissing all the lies and distortions of facts that Donald Trump has told. Started the day he was inaugurated when he said there were more people at his inauguration than at Obama's inauguration.

Biden will have to defend his inaccurate statements. Whether he can or not is yet to be seen. I do agree that such inaccurate statements are not good.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ashington-post

[Austin Ellen]

No, you are correct. My point is that everybody lies. It's part of being human. You just got to pick which lies and distortions you can deal with. Biden said he has convictions - being Roman Catholic and pro life - and he went against his belief. Trump has no convictions. He' just wants to do what is best for the U.S.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Again, you seem to be dismissing all the lies and distortions of facts that Donald Trump has told. Started the day he was inaugurated when he said there were more people at his inauguration than at Obama's inauguration.

Biden will have to defend his inaccurate statements. Whether he can or not is yet to be seen. I do agree that such inaccurate statements are not good.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ashington-post

[supercold1]

Trump doesn’t care about the U.s. Not even in the slightest. That is why he betrayed the country accepting illegal help from our foreign adversaries to influence our election, to say nothing about cheating his way into office by faking enough votes to squeak by with a pathetic electoral win. He’s raising taxes on everyone but the rich, has spent more on vacation than any other President, and laughs at all of us as we pay for it. And what else would you expect, given this guy’s lifelong reputation of being slimeball? Some people are just oblivious

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

No, you are correct. My point is that everybody lies. It's part of being human. You just got to pick which lies and distortions you can deal with. Biden said he has convictions - being Roman Catholic and pro life - and he went against his belief. Trump has no convictions. He' just wants to do what is best for the U.S.

Your statement about Biden being pro-life is, for the most part, incorrect. Biden is pro-life in his own personal life. Biden is pro-choice for others.

"My religion defines who I am. And I've been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And it has particularly informed my social doctrine. Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who can't take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to abortion, I accept my church's position that life begins at conception. That's the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life. But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews and--I just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women can't control their body. It's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. And the Supreme Court--I'm not going to interfere with that."


He flip-flopped on federal funding of abortions. An issue on which many politicians have changed their minds. A couple of decades ago the majority of people in this country did not support same-sex marriage. In 2004 60% of the people in this country opposed it. Today, just 15 years later, 61% support it. I admire those people, politicians and others, who can stand up and say "I was wrong" and change their opinions to be in line with current thinking.

[Austin Ellen]

That's not what Biden was doing thou. He did it to pacify his party. He buckled. He always says he is authentic - that's a lie-He's not authentic - he'll do whatever and say whatever to get elected. But that's like most politicians do.
Again, I do not have a dog in this fight but as a side note - Catholics don't make this distinction that you wrote about. I should know - I was raised Roman Catholic.
My opinion is to leave things as they are and let's move on to other matters.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Your statement about Biden being pro-life is, for the most part, incorrect. Biden is pro-life in his own personal life. Biden is pro-choice for others.

"My religion defines who I am. And I've been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And it has particularly informed my social doctrine. Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who can't take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to abortion, I accept my church's position that life begins at conception. That's the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life. But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews and--I just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women can't control their body. It's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. And the Supreme Court--I'm not going to interfere with that."


He flip-flopped on federal funding of abortions. An issue on which many politicians have changed their minds. A couple of decades ago the majority of people in this country did not support same-sex marriage. In 2004 60% of the people in this country opposed it. Today, just 15 years later, 61% support it. I admire those people, politicians and others, who can stand up and say "I was wrong" and change their opinions to be in line with current thinking.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

That's not what Biden was doing thou. He did it to pacify his party. He buckled. He always says he is authentic - that's a lie-He's not authentic - he'll do whatever and say whatever to get elected. But that's like most politicians do.
Again, I do not have a dog in this fight but as a side note - Catholics don't make this distinction that you wrote about. I should know - I was raised Roman Catholic.
My opinion is to leave things as they are and let's move on to other matters.

To me it does not matter why he changed his mind. He did it. Trump does it all the time as I pointed out earlier in this thread. If voters hold it against him, so be it. Other issues are much more important to voters.

[SweetKimberly]

Trump's going to win by a landslide, unfortunately. It's nice to think we're a progressive society that's moving forward with the rest of the world. But, we're not. We're a nation full of really mean and really stupid people.

[Miss Valentina]

Originally Posted by SweetKimberly

Trump's going to win by a landslide, unfortunately. It's nice to think we're a progressive society that's moving forward with the rest of the world. But, we're not. We're a nation full of really mean and really stupid people.

Yup.

[hunglowandbig]

It’s funny how trump voters point out how other politicians ‘flip flopped’ .. this is going to be one of the most entertaining elections of all time .��.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by SweetKimberly

Trump's going to win by a landslide, unfortunately. It's nice to think we're a progressive society that's moving forward with the rest of the world. But, we're not. We're a nation full of really mean and really stupid people.

Trump may win in 2020 but I guarantee you it won't be by a landslide, no matter how one defines "landslide".

I don't think you take into account the fact that millions and millions of voters will vote against Trump simply because he is Trump. That is the major reason why he has never had an approval rating above 50% and continues to have the lowest approval rating of any POTUS since Truman at this point of time in office. Of course, Donald will point solely to the Rasmussen poll which has him at 50% approval, without acknowledging that the Rasmussen poll is the least accurate polling company in the country.

Trump is reportedly in denial about his campaign’s bleak internal polling

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/186610...polling-denial

[Cap'n Crunch]

As most observant people have noticed, Trump's mental capacity has diminished. Even his childish nicknames are getting extra lame.

Sleepy "Joe Biden". LOL Right.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Trump may win in 2020 but I guarantee you it won't be by a landslide, no matter how one defines "landslide".

If Trump loses, shits his pants then slips on the floor. Would that be a "landslide"?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Trump, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos today, called the recent Quinnipiac poll, which shows him trailing almost all Democratic contenders in match-ups in 2020, "Fake News" and another "Witch Hunt".

Trump should take a course in Market Research 101 before showing his stupidity off before millions of people.