The Senate tax bill eliminates the ACA individual mandate.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Millions of American tax payers were denied "social justice" when health insurance companies cancelled their policies when the law said they could be grandfathered. The health insurance companies cost them the insurance plan they were paying for.

FITY IB Idiot.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

So you actually believe

LL, how many years was it that you said the health insurance sold at HealthCare.Gov was not real insurance? How did you come up with that? Obamacare insurance plans are good at Childrens Hospital in Houston, a top 5 hospital in state of Texas

You post almost as much bullshit as IBidiot.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Well it looks like the hillbilly had econ 101 at Louisville University. The equilibrium price theory works for retail items like Automobiles, personal computers, cell phones or even a box of Kellogs Frosted flakes. That does not work so much with health insurance.

bahahaa it works exactly the same. deflect much?

The underwriting department determines how much risk is in the risk pool by zip code. The final premium price is based off of that. Just ask any underwriting department at your local health insurance company.

actually, the policy price is set by actuaries who of course are statisticians, a branch of mathematics. they give odds like a bookie on when you'll die. bahhaaa or have a car wreck.

Why did they not get a 35% mix of low risk to high risk policy holders? For one the amount of people who were already sick was underestimated. These are the same people the health insurance companies refused to sell a policy to because they had a pre-existing condition.

but ... the pre-existing condition was removed and yet no one signed up!

answer the question. Why didn't they flock to ACA? Did Herr Gruber "gruber" you?? bahhaa

Do you remember being 28 - 30 years old? You are concerned with making your rent payment, your car payment and when and where your next hook up was going to be. Your not worried about getting health insurance or even worried that you might get sick.

all at once or one after another?

BAHAAAAAA

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

FITY IB Idiot.

You're lying again, you socialist dildo. Everyone knows that there was no social justice for the American citizens who were paying there own way until they lost their health insurance because of Odumbo's lib-retarded socialist legislation, you socialist dildo.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

all at once or one after another?

BAHAAAAAA

Who do you think the actuaries are giving their information to? LOL.

Which department is filing the premium rate change with Commissioner of Insurance for approval? You think the insurance company just sets the premium price to whatever they feel like?

Deflect much? LOL

You don't know as much about insurance companies as you think you do.

Have you ever worked for one?

The underwriting department looks at claim history, that is the number one factor to determine just how much risk they will take in the next year. Even LL will tell you that. He even posted it.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You're lying again, Everyone knows that there was no social justice for the American citizens who were paying there own way until they lost their health insurance.

No, you are lying IBidiot. It is right in the link that I gave you in post #155. When you are getting beat in debate you lie!

Individual grandfathered plans: Can't newly enroll people after March 23, 2010 and have that new enrollment considered a grandfathered policy. But insurance companies can continue to offer the grandfathered plans to people who were enrolled before that date.

If an insurance company decides to stop offering a grandfathered plan, it must provide notice 90 days before the plan ends and offer other coverage options.
Learn more about plan cancellation.

The government did not instruct or request the health insurance company to cancel a grandfathered plan.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-ca...athered-plans/

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by garhkal

Maybe they didn't look around enough.. I do know several who DID get insurance even WITH pre-existing conditions, bu they paid through the roof for it..

30+ states had high risk insurance pools before Obamacare. Now everyone's insurance is through the roof.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

No, you are lying IBidiot. It is right in the link that I gave you in post #155. When you are getting beat in debate you lie!

Individual grandfathered plans: Can't newly enroll people after March 23, 2010 and have that new enrollment considered a grandfathered policy. But insurance companies can continue to offer the grandfathered plans to people who were enrolled before that date.

If an insurance company decides to stop offering a grandfathered plan, it must provide notice 90 days before the plan ends and offer other coverage options.
Learn more about plan cancellation.

The government did not instruct or request the health insurance company to cancel a grandfathered plan.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-ca...athered-plans/

You're still lying, you socialist dildo. Everyone knows that there was no social justice for the American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance because of Odumbocare, you socialist dildo.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

30+ states had high risk insurance pools before Obamacare. Now everyone's insurance is through the roof.

Why were they not being used? Why was there 40 million people uninsured before the ACA was passed.

If you lived in one of the 20 states that did not have a high risk risk pool, then what? Just go the emergency room of the local hospital when you get sick to get FREE healthcare? If your uninsured you won't be able to pay the bill.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Everyone knows that there was no social justice for the American citizens who were paying there own way until they lost their health insurance because of the Health Insurance company.

FIFY IBidiot. The insurance companies cancelled the grandfathered plans on their own, not because of instructions from Washington D.C.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

FIFY IBidiot. The insurance companies cancelled the grandfathered plans on their own, not because of instructions from Washington D.C.

Your pathetic denials in no manner assuage the great social injustice wrought by Odumbocare on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance, you socialist dildo.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your pathetic denials in no manner assuage the great social injustice wrought by Odumbocare on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance.

The screw up was made by the health insurance companies, not the government. Grandfathered plans were to be continued, not cancelled. The health insurance companies are at fault IBIdiot.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The screw up was made by the health insurance companies, not the government. Grandfathered plans were to be continued, not cancelled. The health insurance companies are at fault IBIdiot.

Your pathetic excuses for the evil socialist program Odumbocare in no manner assuage the great social injustice Odumbocare has visited on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your pathetic excuses for the evil socialist program Odumbocare in no manner assuage the great social injustice the insurance companies has visited on honest American citizens who were paying their own way until they lost their health insurance.

FIFY IBidiot.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Why were they not being used? Why was there 40 million people uninsured before the ACA was passed.

If you lived in one of the 20 states that did not have a high risk risk pool, then what? Just go the emergency room of the local hospital when you get sick to get FREE healthcare? If your uninsured you won't be able to pay the bill.

Cause people didn't get TOLD YOU HAD TO Have insurance or else..