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Old 07-31-2011, 07:14 PM   #166
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11 pages later...what has been achieved, really....nothing
Oh, I dunno. I learned some things. Not what the OP had in mind, but I definitely learned some things.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:59 PM   #167
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Where do the pimps apply got their trademarks so they can avoid 2 having the same one?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:05 PM   #168
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The state of Texas has an office to register brands but I don't think they had these in mind. Bubba do you think ECCIE would handle pimp brand registration?
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:11 PM   #169
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Here's something related but to many like myself critical.

In the past, we have had ladies come on needing help. For some reason they've had a rash of shit happen and either they need help with rent or bills, anything. Let's go with their car breaks down on the way back to Dallas just to pick one.

IF the clients knew she had a pimp who took all of her money to the point where she couldn't get her car fixed when it broke down out of town, how likely do you think the clients on a site like this would be to help her out?

Compared to a girl they think is truly Indy who breaks down on her way to her family and she calls a couple regulars and they get together and help her out.

Ask yourself that critical question.

Would you be willing to help a girl out who broke down on her way back to Dallas if you knew she had a pimp who took all of her money from her appointments? No matter HOW good BCD she was or how fucking hot she looked?
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Just because YOU have not learned anything from this thread because you've been around long enough to understand the mechanics of how pimped girls work, doesn't mean that new guys getting in the hobby for the first time don't appreciate knowing whether a girl is pimped or not.

There could be a summary of the bad aspects of why many avoid pimped girls and most of them have been pointed out in this very thread but for some like you, it appears you don't give a shit because YOU are being paid, not paying for it.

In my experience, Pimped girls typically:
- have very low esteem and are easy prey for the gorilla pimps
- have lifestyle issues or will soon have lifestyle issues that keep them selling pussy
- bring prohibited substances to the incall where IF you happen to be there when the cops show up, YOU as the client will be blamed by the pimped girl for that shit.
- transport prohibited subject material for their pimps with many times getting arrested and YES, it HAS happened in the past, pimped girls have turned over their access to P411, escort sites like ASPD and ECCIE and handed over their client list to get a reduced sentence.

Maybe YOU don't care Hotlips, but I'll bet more than one client reading this thread does care and will take steps to avoid any provider they know is pimped no matter how loudly they scream they're indy yet are sporting a pimp brand.
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:07 PM   #170
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Just because YOU have not learned anything from this thread because you've been around long enough to understand the mechanics of how pimped girls work, doesn't mean that new guys getting in the hobby for the first time don't appreciate knowing whether a girl is pimped or not.

Maybe YOU don't care Hotlips, but I'll bet more than one client reading this thread does care and will take steps to avoid any provider they know is pimped no matter how loudly they scream they're indy yet are sporting a pimp brand.
You know what LL, you are really starting to chap my ass. As usual, YOU don't get what I'm saying. There is nothing new coming of this dribble that YOU started. Just a bunch of folks agreeing to disagree. I'm amazed it has taken this many pages to figure that out-and obviously YOU still haven't.

Anybody with common sense (or the internet, or cable) already knows "how" the whole pimp game works. Especially YOU, since YOU seem to be so keen on seeing the girls who are more likely to fall under the very thing YOU are so dead against. The pimps have been around longer than internet escorts so there is NOTHING new to learn. Just more of 'em these days.

Furthermore, YOU seem to want to be Captain Save A Client and prevent them from seeing pimped out girls and out the girls who do have "management." Isn't there something in the rules about outing folks somewhere? Perhaps it's not the type of "outing" that is typical...but still. For the record, I think having a pimp is stupid. I wish somebody would make me do all the work and take my money. Oh wait, I was married-nevermind.

But did you ever think that maybe some of the girls don't want folks to know they have a pimp? Maybe they are ashamed but are unable to get away. Maybe they are trying to break the cycle and YOU plastering the connection all over the board is making her get her ass beat on a regular. Or perhaps YOU are pissing the pimps off for fucking with their money and they are looking to whoop YOUR ass. Don't be surprised some time when that beauty spinner is at your door (because we all know how much you dislike us non-spinners) and before you can get it closed, Big Daddy Mike Mike comes in behind her. I'll take a front row seat ticket please. No popcorn necessary-the show won't last long.

Of your 28 reviews, how many of those BP chicks you have seen do you think are pimped? You don't think the chicks at the spa's aren't pimped? You don't think some of those at the spas are there because they have to be, not because they want to be? You pay the "pimp" the door fee before you even get the line up. Save it! You don't exactly have the most stellar reputation around here to be exclaiming "save the men" from the top of the mountain now do ya?

The government is the biggest pimp of them all. How much of your hard earned money do you pay to the man?

I'm sure I have earned some points or a mini vacation from this and I'm supposed to be a little more kinder these days, but certain things just bring the yankee out of me. So if I don't answer my PMs, ya'll know why. I was speaking in generalities about this thread, but since you took it upon yourself to directly point a finger at me and EMPHASIZE you were doing so, the high road got washed out and I was forced to travel down the lower road.

Word of advice...be careful of the rocks you start to overturn. You might flip one over and that snake bites your ass. Just saying.... And by the way....some of the issues you mention that the "pimped out girls" have, some of the independent girls have too.

Now, back to the lovable me.

Meg

p.s. if you want to save the guys so much from wasting their money, then why don't you let the pimp girls come stay with you? then you can be captain save a ho and put her on the right track. wait, that would make you a pimp too...nevermind
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:25 PM   #171
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wow Meg, now thats the MEG we all know and love.
Tell it like it is sweetie, I love it

(poor LL has 1/2 an ass now the meg chewed it off)



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OK, I think we have reached the end of the road on this one. Say goodnight Grace
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I closed the thread because the number of personal attacks, justified or not, was rising quickly and dragging the thread far from its orginal topic. As long as people stay civil, I could care less how long the thread gets. And, as long as it stay close to the orginal topic, I don't care about minor degressions.

I have received one request to reopen it. If others feel the same way, PM me and I will reconsider.

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At LL's request, I am reopening this thread.

But:
Stay on topic
No personal attacks- Act like adults
No more warnings to people, points if you misbehave.

OK, go at it
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:43 PM   #175
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OK Woodrow, Lay out your plan, your purpose for the thread. What exactly do you want to accomplish?

I went back and reread your OP, and it seems you acknowledge that the guys can't get it done. You call on the girls who have gotten away from pimps to help this one, and so far the consensus is that it can't be done unless she has already reached the point of decision on her own. Her (or her handler) have posted in such a way that makes me think the time has not come.

What is left to discuss? Is there a plan B?
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OK Woodrow, Lay out your plan, your purpose for the thread. What exactly do you want to accomplish?

I went back and reread your OP, and it seems you acknowledge that the guys can't get it done. You call on the girls who have gotten away from pimps to help this one, and so far the consensus is that it can't be done unless she has already reached the point of decision on her own. Her (or her handler) have posted in such a way that makes me think the time has not come.

What is left to discuss? Is there a plan B?
I suggest LL give her access to his checking account and maybe even a credit card. Upon doing so, look her in the eye and say "I trust you, because you're a good person deep down, and I want you to have a better life." she will immediately be disarmed by the power of kindness and friendship, and will thank LL at the commencement speech she gives upon graduating law school and becoming the first person ever appointed straight out of school onto the US Supreme Court.

Try finding a hole in that plan!
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:40 PM   #177
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[quote=Bubba3452;1526418]At LL's,
request,
I am reopening this thread.




How heavy is that water?
Is that standard operating procedure?

Topic no crowns for me, but I would love a Tripple.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:58 PM   #178
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Bunch of BLA BLA BLA
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:04 AM   #179
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After reading every post. Yes , I read every one. It accured to me that no one has brought up the larger social context of the hobby world, in relation to pimps.
Let me say first that there 'IS' a very large criminal and violent aspect to this industry and they love to exploit the young, weak and ignorant women of the world.

Now, everyone deals with the morality of their actions in their own way. I believe that when ever the pimp issue is discussed it is really a discussion about how we mentaly deal with our actions. The most common statement is:
"pimps are the scum of the earth and I only see independant providers"
We as hobbiest and providers are participating in an activity which generally looked down on by society.
So what accured to me is that many hobbiest are looking to justify or rationlize their actions because of the negative social stigma of prostitution. These mental questions are "If she is independant I will be helping her out. She will have a better life" Paying for college is the best example used. We don't like the pimps because they take the hard earn money of the providers. For all intents and purposes we truly do not know where the money goes. Some does go to pay for college. Check out the article in the Times about Arrangement Seekers. I suspect that most is used to just get by, support family or worthless boyfriends, drug habits, and or just bad management of one's money.
As Charly stated "does it really matter". Who are we to tell others how to live and yes there far more important issues in this world than debating who is or is not managed by a pimp.

As long as the pimp is not seen or heard I do not care if there is a pimp or not. I do care if the provider is attractive and provides great service.
I do not mind a few tatoos but the large crown over the breast is too much for me but thats just me.
I might call Destiny up just so I can suck on those beautiful tits.
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I suggest LL give her access to his checking account and maybe even a credit card. Upon doing so, look her in the eye and say "I trust you, because you're a good person deep down, and I want you to have a better life." she will immediately be disarmed by the power of kindness and friendship, and will thank LL at the commencement speech she gives upon graduating law school and becoming the first person ever appointed straight out of school onto the US Supreme Court.

Try finding a hole in that plan!
now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
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