Disturbing Video of Fort Worth Arrest.. WTF?

[grean]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

leaked video from the Officer's body cam..

http://www.theroot.com/jacqueline-cr...-fo-1791644642

Motherfucker tries to choke the 19 year old videographer at the 4:00 minute mark, then arrests her for filming his animal arrest of her mom and sister.

it's also not his first "rodeo", as documented in a 2013 arrest report, where he tased some High School kids.

the Attorney plans to file a Federal lawsuit against the city. I back that idea, the city reluctantly dropped charges a month after the arrest, and only after this damning body cam video leaked out.

What reception do you expect a federal case to get with the new administration?

Really needs justice. Doubt this gets it, however.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by grean

What reception do you expect a federal case to get with the new administration?

Really needs justice. Doubt this gets it, however.

good point.. they could seize on this, to make the case for justice for ALL people.. but I'd be shocked if they do.

I'm still baffled why the citizens of Fort Worth are so taciturn.. fucking protest couldn't draw 10 people.. if this happened in Philadelphia or Atlanta, 2,000 people would be marching downtown. Hell, even the Republican Mayor is sorry, and thinks justice was not served. Why are the people so Laissez-Faire about this shit?

[txexetoo]

This is so wrong. The officer and the chief both need to be fired. I am not some bleeding heart liberal. There is zero excuse for what he did and if she had beat his ass and I was on the jury I would vote not guilty.

[Biff Biffington]

I agree. The cop was a first class jerk and should be fired.

[Chung Tran]

interesting that Scribe, mediavolume, and other defenders of the Cop, disappeared from this thread.. nobody is defending this reprehensible human anymore.

interesting, too, is that the citizens of Fort Worth are too docile to protest, but plenty of people showed at DFW airport today, on short notice, to protest the travel ban on certain immigrants.

we are willing to protest for the "rights" of strangers from a few countries with a history of terrorism, but we don't care to protest for our own local citizens, for the civil rights of our own neighbors.

[SisterTwister]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

interesting that Scribe, mediavolume, and other defenders of the Cop, disappeared from this thread.. nobody is defending this reprehensible human anymore.

interesting, too, is that the citizens of Fort Worth are too docile to protest, but plenty of people showed at DFW airport today, on short notice, to protest the travel ban on certain immigrants.

we are willing to protest for the "rights" of strangers from a few countries with a history of terrorism, but we don't care to protest for our own local citizens, for the civil rights of our own neighbors.

Tens of thousands of people have been protesting police behavior all over the country for two years, so regardless of whether this specific incident drew protesters or not hardly makes that claim of indifference valid. Second, the violation of people's rights you're suggesting are less valid because they're allegedly held by people who happen to live in middle eastern countries, are in fact an assault on the core principles of this nation...or at least we claim they are. Those principles and their defense directly impact our standing in the world and our domestic social order in dramatic ways. They are also national in their scope, as opposed to this local issue in Fort Worth so they impact every US citizen.

Finally, the abusive policies directed towards Muslim immigrants are also being directed against legal residents here working on Visas and green cards who traveled outside the country and even US citizens from those countries.

The scale of these two offense's against decency are similar in their morally reprehensible nature, but vastly different in the scale of their impact. It's possible to be pissed off over both these things actually.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by SisterTwister

Tens of thousands of people have been protesting police behavior all over the country for two years, so regardless of whether this specific incident drew protesters or not hardly makes that claim of indifference valid.

The scale of these two offense's against decency are similar in their morally reprehensible nature, but vastly different in the scale of their impact.

no, I am saying the people of Fort Worth are indifferent.. nobody else.. I realize people elsewhere would protest, and have, for years.. I am singling out Fort Worth as an outlier.

true, one can not compare the scope of each incident, they are vastly different.. I'm simply saying that the airport protest is on behalf of non-citizens, as opposed to in-our-backyard-local-neighbors.. there are reasons to be upset and protest both, but I find it abhorrent that one would protest at the airport, while ignoring this police reprobate action.

[Crock]

Originally Posted by sparrow1122

Chung,
He was an antagonist and did not de-escalate. I back the blue, but he needs to find a new job. His actions were not professional in a non life threating situation.

Nicely said and I think it would be difficult for anyone to disagree.

[SisterTwister]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

no, I am saying the people of Fort Worth are indifferent.. nobody else.. I realize people elsewhere would protest, and have, for years.. I am singling out Fort Worth as an outlier.

true, one can not compare the scope of each incident, they are vastly different.. I'm simply saying that the airport protest is on behalf of non-citizens, as opposed to in-our-backyard-local-neighbors.. there are reasons to be upset and protest both, but I find it abhorrent that one would protest at the airport, while ignoring this police reprobate action.

The airport protest is not on behalf of non-citizens, it's on behalf of timeless principles that generations have fought to preserve. Those principles are now under assault by a great moral evil in the guise of a president.

I have no idea whether the people of Fort Worth are outliers. I suspect that's a broad brush that isn't knowable based on this singular event, one based on the lack of evidence being used to suggest that is evidence. It may come down to something as simple as a lack of a strong community presence for this appeal located in Tarrant County, which has a less substantial body of experience than Dallas with activism. That in itself sometimes says something. Activists tend to proliferate where the fight is hottest.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by SisterTwister

It may come down to something as simple as a lack of a strong community presence for this appeal located in Tarrant County, which has a less substantial body of experience than Dallas with activism. That in itself sometimes says something. Activists tend to proliferate where the fight is hottest.

well, yes, Fort Worth has never stood up for personal rights of any kind.. and if I may.. fuck experience.. sometimes you need to rise up loosely and unorganized, a few people pissed off can spark others, until the protest snowballs..

when I was a kid, a white cop shot a black guy stealing beer at a 7-11 in my town.. the black neighbors rioted for 2 days, the mayor had to set a curfew, the rioting was on the National broadcast news.. this was a small town, maybe the size of Bedford.. there was no history of black/white strife, no "experience" among the people.. but God damn it, those people were pissed..

and none of that cop shooting was on video for the world to see.. the people of Fort Worth are embarrassingly silent, even as the Police Chief offered a promotion to the Cop, while handing him a vacation.

[SisterTwister]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

well, yes, Fort Worth has never stood up for personal rights of any kind.. and if I may.. fuck experience.. sometimes you need to rise up loosely and unorganized, a few people pissed off can spark others, until the protest snowballs..

when I was a kid, a white cop shot a black guy stealing beer at a 7-11 in my town.. the black neighbors rioted for 2 days, the mayor had to set a curfew, the rioting was on the National broadcast news.. this was a small town, maybe the size of Bedford.. there was no history of black/white strife, no "experience" among the people.. but God damn it, those people were pissed..

and none of that cop shooting was on video for the world to see.. the people of Fort Worth are embarrassingly silent, even as the Police Chief offered a promotion to the Cop, while handing him a vacation.

It appers there are protests in Fort Worth:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime...er-2-daughters

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wfaa....?client=safari

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/lo...122576349.html

Activism and protest flows from embedded leadership that comes about as a result of high levels of frustration within a given community. This is probably why Dallas has a higher level of engagement than Fort Worth, and why you'll never see Highkand Park people protesting anything.

It hasn't been shown yet that street level protests significantly alter police behavior or policy. These tactics were more effective in the heyday of the civil rights movement. We need to develop new methods for motivating change, starting with the legislative removal of police protectionism for bad cops as well as higher mandatory participation with citizen review boards and utilizing federal instead of state or local prosecutors to investigate police brutality.

[grean]

CT,

Do you think that the apparent lack of support may be due to a preconcieved notion of defeat? In other words, could people be so pessimistic that change wil occur in ft. Worth, that they dont even bother fighting?

I know if they do not, it may never change. However, that fact doesn't change the current situation?

I agree with sistertwister that new methods should be put in place.

Even if only for better optics, if an outside agency was required to investigate the matter, I believe that would be a huge step in improving relations between police and the public.

[SisterTwister]

Originally Posted by grean

CT,Even if only for better optics, if an outside agency was required to investigate the matter, I believe that would be a huge step in improving relations between police and the public.

The only outside investigative agency with power to do that is a federal.prosecutor's office. But even that doesn't impact all the numerous advantages police enjoy that establish a total imbalance of power. Cops don't want better relations with the public. They want to be feared and have the ability to remain outside the same laws they force everyone else to obey, especially in communities where they feel entitled to break the rules based on the perception that they deserve to be able to take an adversarial position against the community because their job is difficult.

Not all cops are bad, but cop culture inherently protects bad cops at the expense of all else.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by grean

CT,

Do you think that the apparent lack of support may be due to a preconcieved notion of defeat? In other words, could people be so pessimistic that change wil occur in ft. Worth, that they dont even bother fighting?

yes, I believe that is very possible.. and perhaps they assumed some sort of justice would occur.. like the Officer getting fired.. but the citizens look like they don't care, people made excuses for the Cop after the first video; then they seemed to get bored with the story, and couldn't muster any outrage.. the Cops and City Hall played them like a fiddle.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

well, yes, Fort Worth has never stood up for personal rights of any kind.. and if I may.. fuck experience.. sometimes you need to rise up loosely and unorganized, a few people pissed off can spark others, until the protest snowballs..

when I was a kid, a white cop shot a black guy stealing beer at a 7-11 in my town.. the black neighbors rioted for 2 days, the mayor had to set a curfew, the rioting was on the National broadcast news.. this was a small town, maybe the size of Bedford.. there was no history of black/white strife, no "experience" among the people.. but God damn it, those people were pissed..

and none of that cop shooting was on video for the world to see.. the people of Fort Worth are embarrassingly silent, even as the Police Chief offered a promotion to the Cop, while handing him a vacation.

A suspension is hardly a vacation.