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Old 08-08-2021, 06:54 PM   #1651
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I am willing to bet the ranch that within a handful of days you will be responding to one of my posts.
Nah. I’ll just RTM your rude and insulting remarks.

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Old 08-08-2021, 07:25 PM   #1652
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Nah. I’ll just RTM your rude and insulting remarks.

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So after saying you would not pay attention to me at 6:11 pm, you respond to my post at 6:54. Made it whole 43 minutes. Congratulations!!

Please do report me to the moderators if you feel it necessary. I personally have never used the RTM but some people can't take the heat.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:38 PM   #1653
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Reported on which extreme right wing nut job sites?
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:10 PM   #1654
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There is no way to argue with people who have their heads in the sand. A bunch of Mike Lindells.
We have open minds and actually see the facts and not be TAUGHT what the facts supposedly are be the dnc's lsm
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:58 PM   #1655
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I was probably out of bounds in my comments to Bambino, but it does get frustrating with all these ridiculous claims of fraud with absolutely no proof. Including the last claim made by Dilbert which has been totally debunked.
speedy, i'm going to say this once. that was not from me.


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Old 08-08-2021, 09:17 PM   #1656
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Your lack of intelligence amazes me.

The links I provided simply showed that news sources reported on the Ohio election, something you doubted. How can that be "fake news"?

As usual, you and others continue to believe only news that supports your POV and you use such outstanding news sources as The Gateway Pundit and OAN to support your POV.
All facts.
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interview with AZ Senate President Karen Fann about Maricopa County.

24:56
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interview with AZ Senate President Karen Fann about Maricopa County.

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https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/0...f-supervisors/
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Thank you Just The News (John Solomon):

The State of Georgia’s election system has to be one of the worst in the nation—election security and integrity are the top election issue in our country and the presidential election of NOV 2020 has to be resolved before the nation can move forward with future elections. Come on Raffensperger—DO SOMETHING!!!

“Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's office said it did not have an immediate response on whether such spoiled ballots should have been allowed to go to adjudication, saying it was studying the matter. Raffensperger has said, however, Fulton County's election processes are so flawed he believes the state of Georgia should take it into receivership.”



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stacy abrams involved in the election process. Rigged bamboozled fraud criminal dishonest comes to mind. Not to mention the people who put her there!

It was for a reason folks!
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*PENNSYLVANIA*

Here is the promised voter registration rolls with analysis on FIVE COUNTIES holding an estimated 92,000 extra Biden votes (AKA, enough to flip the state!)

*ERIE
*LUZERNE
*FRANKLIN
*MONTGOMERY
*YORK

This is only useful if you guys do something locally with it, demand action, and pressure the living hell out of the PA RINO coalition to have these explained. Every word in this document is understandable and we have the rolls for when they ask.


https://t.me/CandlesInTheNight/16350
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speedy, i'm going to say this once. that was not from me.


if you see a bambino's telegram link quote made by me along with an image. that's bambino contribution, not me.


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got it? good!
I apologize Dilbert.
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I apoligize for embarrassing speedie twice yesterday on two of his oopsies.
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AZ Attorney General to Conduct Investigation into Maricopa County Board of Supervisors

By Leah Anaya
August 8, 2021

ARIZONA – At the request of State Senator Sonny Borrelli, Arizona’s Attorney General Mark Brnovich has opened an investigation into Maricopa County due to its failure to comply with recent audit-related subpoenas.
The 1487 request to the Arizona Attorney General has been filed against the Maricopa Board of Supervisors by @SonnyBorrelli on behalf of the Arizona Senate. I support this and hope the @GeneralBrnovich lays the smack down. Throw the book at them! pic.twitter.com/vJkfoTvozp

— Wendy Rogers (@WendyRogersAZ) August 3, 2021
Maricopa County Board of Supervisors declined to comply with the subpoena relating to the November 2020 election audit. The Senate had (again) requested last week for the routers used on county vote-tabulation machines and the passwords.

Brnovich’s investigation must be completed within 30 days. If he finds that a violation was in fact made, then the county has 30 days to rectify it.
The Arizona Attorney General sent this letter to the Maricopa Board of Supervisors on August 6th. I can also confirm there is an open 1487 Investigation listed on the Arizona Attorney General website. Now we wait 30 days. pic.twitter.com/lwBDSMfzaQ

— Wendy Rogers (@WendyRogersAZ) August 7, 2021
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Georgia ballots rejected by machines were later altered by election workers to count

Records obtained by Just the News provide unprecedented glimpse into human adjudication of thousands of ballots, where marks for candidates like Trump were sometimes removed so ballots could count for Biden.

By John Solomon, Daniel Payne and Natalia Mittelstadt

Updated: August 8, 2021 - 11:21pm

A day after the November election, as Donald Trump and other Republican candidates clung to evaporating leads in Georgia, vote counters in Atlanta were confronted by a paper ballot known only by its anonymizing number 5150-232-18.

A Dominion Voting machine had rejected the ballot on election night because the voter had filled in boxes for both Trump and his Democratic opponent Joe Biden, an error known as an "overvote." The machine determined neither candidate should get a tally, and the ballot was referred for human review.

The image of the ballot, obtained by Just the News, shows the voter messily scribbled a large blob in the box to select Trump as president while also putting a thinner check mark next to Biden's name.

At 6:10 p.m. ET on Nov. 4, 24 hours after the ballot was first scanned and rejected by Machine 5150, a panel of humans decided the vote should be awarded to Biden, with the notation "mark removed for Donald J. Trump." You can see that ballot here:
File 05150_00232_000018_0.pdf
Scores of additional ballots that same day had checks manually removed next to Trump's name as well as many other candidates up and down the ticket — Libertarians, Democrats and write-ins alike — and the votes awarded instead to other candidates.

Welcome to the arcane process known as adjudication, where human judgment is substituted for machine scanning in cases where voters incorrectly filled out a paper ballot. Election officials and official observers have dealt with it for years, with everyday citizens mostly oblivious to the process.

But in 2020, adjudication played a much larger role in states like Georgia, which allowed hundreds of thousands of additional citizens to vote absentee for the first time during the COVID-19 pandemic.

In all, more than 5,000 of the 148,000 absentee ballots cast — or about 3% — in Georgia's largest county required some form of human intervention, according to logs obtained from Fulton County by Just the News under an open records act request.
File ORR_5053-2021Adjudication_Activity_Log_ 11.7.2020.pdf
The adjudication ballots alone are not enough to change a Georgia election in which Biden and Trump were separated by less than 13,000 votes. However, they reveal an imperfect system vulnerable to chaos, subjectivity, or political dirty tricks, especially in a county like Fulton where state officials documented widespread irregularities and misconduct and now want to take over election counting.

Just the News reviewed 1,604 pages of adjudication logs from Fulton County and reviewed 4820 of the 5064 ballot images where human vote counters reviewed or overrode the Dominion Voting machines. The JTN review provided an unprecedented window into the extraordinary discretion accorded adjudication judges to interpret a voter's intent on a flawed ballot.

It also raised another troubling question, at least in Georgia, where election regulations create two conflicting imperatives. One regulation, which is quoted on each absentee ballot, emphatically declares that a paper ballot should be deemed "spoiled" and uncountable if a voter makes any mistakes or unauthorized marks.

"If you make a mistake or change your mind or change your mind on a selection do not attempt to mark through the selection or attempt to erase. Write 'Spoiled' across the ballot and across the return envelope" and get a new ballot, language on each ballot reads.

Just the News reviewed hundreds of ballots that met the "spoiled" definition — ballots that voters had in some way altered, defaced, or corrected — that were still allowed to count after adjudication. The reason? Another Georgia regulation gives election officials broad discretion to try to determine the intent of a confused voter, and actually encourages them to find a way to make flawed ballots count.

The Georgia code stipulates that voting tabulators must be programmed to "reject any ballot, including absentee ballots, on which an overvote is detected," with those ballots to be "manually reviewed" by a review panel following their rejection.

If a voter "has marked his or her ballot in such a manner that he or she has indicated clearly and without question the candidate for whom he or she desires to cast his or her vote," the state code says elsewhere, then the ballot "shall be counted and such candidate shall receive his or her vote."

Yet state law also directs that a ballot should be considered "spoiled" if, in part, a voter has used it to "cast more than the permitted number of votes." A spoiled ballot "shall not be reinstated," the code states, suggesting that any ballots deemed as such should not be counted.

Instructions on the Georgia Secretary of State's website, meanwhile, suggest that voters have no choice but to declare their ballots spoiled in the event that they make a mistake on it.

"If you inadvertently make an error, spoil, or otherwise deface the ballot, IMMEDIATELY contact your local county board of registrars or the municipal absentee ballot clerk, whichever is applicable, to receive a replacement ballot," the instructions dictate.

Just the News identified hundreds of ballots that met that definition but nonetheless were counted as lawful votes after election judges intervened. Some counted ballots even had the word "spoiled" written across them and still were counted.

For instance, "spoiled" was clearly written on ballot number 729-98-76, which had boxes for both Trump and Biden selected. Election judges awarded the vote to Biden and removed the mark for Trump. You can see that here:
File 00729_00098_000076Spoiled.pdf
But another ballot, 5162-207-61, had the word spoiled written on it and a vote solely for Trump. But it was rejected by the same process, showing just how uneven the system was. You can see that here:
File 05162_00207_000061SpoiledTrump NoCount.pdf
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's office said it did not have an immediate response on whether such spoiled ballots should have been allowed to go to adjudication, saying it was studying the matter. Raffensperger has said, however, Fulton County's election processes are so flawed he believes the state of Georgia should take it into receivership.

State officials said Fulton County should have adjudicated ballots using a panel of two Democrat judges, two Republican judges and one independent judge, but they did not know for sure whether each ballot went through that process.

Raffensperger's handpicked election monitor for Fulton County compiled a 29-page report identifying voting irregularities that occurred in the Atlanta vote counting center, including documented problems with spoiled and adjudicated ballots.
Fulton County refused to answer any questions about the records they provided to Just the News.

But Bridget Thorne, who has worked for years in various election jobs in Fulton County, said officials there did not have clear instructions for handling spoiled or adjudicated ballots last fall.

"According to a Fulton County Board member, there were no written adjudication processes given to adjudicators," Thorne told Just the News. "Processes were given verbally. In the event the Democrat and the Republican adjudicators could not agree, [county executive] Ralph Jones would decide.

"Based on my experience, it is not surprising that they did not have a standard written process for adjudicators," she added. "An internal audit financial report that came out on Wednesday also states that they are missing Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)."

The Just the News review shows adjudication judges have the power to "remove marks" and or "add marks" to reflect a voter's assumed intention and did so hundreds of times in Fulton County alone. They also can reject them. And at least in Georgia last November, they made such decisions one to four days after Election Day had ended, when preliminary vote counts showed who was leading or losing in close races. The entire scenario makes some extremely squeamish.

Scores of adjudicated ballots ultimately were resolved with the notation "removed mark" next to Trump's name, in most cases allowing a second mark next to Biden's name to count. But at times it happened in reverse too, or to the detriment of third-party candidates.
https://justthenews.com/sites/defaul...004_000039.pdf
Ballot number 729-4-39, for instance, included blob marks for the Libertarian candidates for president (Jo Jorgensen) and U.S. Senate (Shane Hazel) as well as Democrats Biden and Senate winner Jon Ossoff. The adjudication team awarded the ballot to Biden and Ossof, the logs and ballot images showed. To do so, they had to remove the marks for the Libertarian candidates.
https://justthenews.com/sites/defaul...2_000018_0.pdf

On another ballot, a voter messily scribbled in the bubble to select Donald Trump as president; the voter also gave a small check mark next to Joe Biden. The adjudication log shows the choice being flagged as an "over-vote," after which an adjudication review awarded the ballot to Biden.
https://justthenews.com/sites/defaul...018SPOILED.pdf

In one particularly striking example, a ballot clearly marked "spoiled" was apparently adjudicated and counted by an election staff worker, raising the question of whether or not that voter or other voters managed to vote twice in the election. In that case, Trump would have been the beneficary.

In all, 1,341 marks were removed from the names of candidates on the 5,000 ballots, a computer analysis of the logs showed.
The alteration and counting of flawed ballots were spread across all races, including state constitutional amendments and local legislative campaigns.

One of the clearest patterns involved the highly watched special U.S. Senate election that pitted Republican incumbent Sen. Kelly Loeffler against Democratic activist Raphael Warnock. The Just the News review showed the design of the ballot by Raffensperger's office clearly confused many in the race because it offered 20 candidates, most of them Democrats. Voters often selected two or more of a party's candidates, causing their votes ultimately to be rejected even after adjudication. Democrats were more likely to be negatively affected in that instance.

Just the News is fighting for adjudication logs in other states like Arizona, where its largest election metropolis, Maricopa County, recently told the news organization there were about 27,000 adjudicated ballots in November but so far has refused to provide the logs or images.

The release of the ballot images comes after a bombshell Just the News report that revealed an election watchdog's searing criticism of Fulton County's handling of the absentee ballot counting process at Atlanta's State Farm Arena. The watchdog, Carter Jones — who had been assigned by Raffensperger's office to monitor the State Farm Arena operations — highlighted what he said were several key security problems with the absentee ballot operation there.

Jones at one point wrote of witnessing absentee ballots arriving at the arena "in rolling bins 2k at a time."
"It is my understanding is that the ballots are supposed to be moved in numbered, sealed boxes to protect them," he wrote, also noting "too many ballots coming in for secure black ballot boxes."
File Unabridged Notes.pdf
Jones also made numerous citations raising concerns about how absentee ballots and spoiled ballots were handled. Here are some direct excerpts from his notes:
  • "My math is still not zeroing out, so I get a staffer to explain it to me and they realize (after I talk to three and no one listens) that their math doesn't add up, which prompts a search for more spoiled ballots to make up for the missing seven."
  • "We missed one ballot! — Found during cleanupI pointed it out to Ralph, otherwise he would've missed it or left it unsecured. Turns out that it was spoiled but written in small print on the back."
  • "Big problem! Rick just called me to explain that Fulton did not verify their numbers on the backend after adjudication last night, so their provisional number is off by 484 from what it should be. Their current plan is to re-scan all of yesterday's batch to make sure that everything is done properly."
  • "Press release yesterday said that there were 3,604 accepted provisionals. My count shows that last night they scanned 3,420. Rick says that they're 484 short, but my math says it's only 184."
With such chaos and mismanagement observed by the state, some wonder whether any of the adjudicated ballots were counted correctly and consistently in Georgia's biggest metropolis, or other major urban areas for that matter.

"Similar actions took place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Green Bay and other major urban centers in swing states where tens of thousands of ballots were interpreted and counted by review panels," said Phill Kline, the former Kansas attorney general and head of the Amistad Project, which has filed lawsuits to gain transparency in elections nationwide. "This happens every year. But in 2020 laws requiring both parties to review this process weren’t followed.

"With COVID as an excuse, election observers were kicked out of the counting room and private billionaires invited in," Kline added, citing Mark Zuckerberg's donations to election judges. "Americans deserve to know how this shadow government managed the election, and state election officials, rather than fighting efforts to understand what happened, should open the doors and support the effort to get at the truth!"
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