The Senate tax bill eliminates the ACA individual mandate.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Have to pop your bubble. The WMD's they found were designed by the USA, manufactured by the USA, purchased from the USA and installed on Iraqi soil by American companies. The weapons had corroded to the point that they were no longer functional. Just go find the New York Times link that was posted by J.D. Barleycorn a couple of years ago.

no, your bubble needs popping severely!!!! with a goddam hammer!!!!!

they may not be functional, but they were still dangerous and leaking. It wouldn't take much to set them off had those insurgents found them.

many serviceman got sick from handling them and the pentagon didn't bother to tell them why they were sick due to the secret nature of the muntions.

I posted it about this a good while back. If it doesn't have karl rove in the article, that's not the one.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

There's no "social justice" for the government to intentionally injure

No one was suppose to lose their policy idiot. The grandfather rules were written into the ACA law that you could keep your old policy if you wanted to. It you lost your policy it was not intentional.

You are just a hypocritical socialist Moron. It's okay for the government to help people pay for their prescriptions, but it's not okay to help people pay for their health insurance.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

no, your bubble needs popping severely!!!! with a goddam hammer!!!!!

they may not be functional, but they were still dangerous and leaking. It wouldn't take much to set them off had those insurgents found them.

many serviceman got sick from handling them and the pentagon didn't bother to tell them why they were sick due to the secret nature of the muntions.

I posted it about this a good while back.

You're missing the point. The USA sold Iraq those weapons. True the soldiers got sick from handling them. The weapons could no longer WORK as designed. Why was Bush spending 2 Trillion dollars to go find weapons that the USA had sold to Iraq as far back as 1980? Even a stupid turtle knows that invading Iraq was a bad idea. J.D. Barleycorn posted the New York times link before you posted yours.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

No one was suppose to lose their policy idiot. The grandfather rules were written into the ACA law that you could keep your old policy if you wanted to. It you lost your policy it was not intentional.

You are just a hypocritical socialist Moron. It's okay for the government to help people pay for their prescriptions, but it's not okay to help people pay for their health insurance.

You're a liar, you socialist dildo. Gruber is on record admitting that Odumbo, et al, sold Odumbocare to the American public with with a packet of lies, you socialist dildo.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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You're a liar, you socialist dildo. Gruber is on record admitting that Odumbo, et al, sold Odumbocare to the American public with with a packet of lies, you socialist dildo. [/SIZE

You're the liar you socialist moron. Here are the grandfather rules that state you could keep your old policy. What's the problem dumbass, you don't know how to use google search?

IB idiot, you are so full of shit it is coming out of your ears.

From the link:

But insurance companies can continue to offer the grandfathered plans to people who were enrolled before that date.



https://www.healthcare.gov/health-ca...athered-plans/

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

You're the liar you socialist moron. Here are the grandfather rules that state you could keep your old policy. What's the problem dumbass, you don't know how to use google search?

IB idiot, you are so full of shit it is coming out of your ears.

From the link:

But insurance companies can continue to offer the grandfathered plans to people who were enrolled before that date.

https://www.healthcare.gov/health-ca...athered-plans/

Your lying ass knows that that is not what happened, you socialist dildo. If the plan didn't match the requirements spelled out -- abortions, etc., -- in Odumbocare they were cut, you lying, socialist dildo.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I agree that the people with pre-existing conditions should pay more. Prior to the ACA being passed people with pre-exiting could not purchase health insurance at all from the health insurance companies in the individual market.

the pre-existing condition should have been federally eliminated a long time ago. it still is under this new deal.

It would be difficult for health insurance companies to price the premium the way the Auto insurance companies do. The health insurance companies do not have access to the policy holders medical history when the policy holder is enrolling at HealthCare.Gov.

Why? what about a market driven price???

The health insurance underwriter looks at claim history from the previous year, to determine premium price. This must be approved by the Commissioner of Insurance for the state or states the insurance company decides to do business in.

With Health insurance the premium price is based on the amount of risk in the risk pool.

and why did not enough young adults join, even under the unconstitutional mandate to do so? oh yeah that IRS fine is a criminal infraction by IRS bylaws.

so .. would any of you geniuses like Fagger65, The Professor or WTF (but i ignore him) tell me why the ACA has failed on it's young demographics??? is that just more lazy socialists?

bahahahahahaaa


bottom line u didn't make your numbers, the state exchanges are a disaster and the majors will not enter many state exchange/markets as ACA was defined.

they will now consider it, if less regulated to compete. they call it an example of market forces of supply and demand. at equilibrium the price is low and the product plentiful with quality. market forces demand it.

so .. would one of you idiots tell me why did ACA NOT come anywhere near to getting the young adult enrollees even if illegal not to do so ..

WHY?

explain why the minimum numbers required by the gruber and obammo didn't even come close to what was needed?? ..... and sold to the voters .. "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". .... bahaha

LIES!!!!

BAHAHHAAAA

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

If the plan didn't match the requirements spelled out -- abortions, etc., -- in Odumbocare they were cut, you lying, socialist dildo.

I did not lie you fucking moron. Your dumb ass does not know how to click on a link. You could keep your old policy as long as you enrolled in it the year before. The policy did not have to have the 10 minimum benefits that new policies must have. From the link you refused to click on. The definition of a Grandfathered plan.

Grandfathered Health Plan
An individual health insurance policy purchased on or before March 23, 2010. These plans weren’t sold through the Marketplace, but by insurance companies, agents, or brokers. They may not include some rights and protections provided under the Affordable Care Act.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

they will now consider it, if less regulated to compete. they call it an example of market forces of supply and demand. at equilibrium the price is low and the product plentiful with quality. market forces demand it.

so .. would one of you tell me why did ACA NOT come anywhere near to getting the young adult enrollees even if illegal not to do so ..

WHY?

explain why the minimum numbers required by the gruber and obammo didn't even come close to what was needed?? .....

Well it looks like the hillbilly had econ 101 at Louisville University. The equilibrium price theory works for retail items like Automobiles, personal computers, cell phones or even a box of Kellogs Frosted flakes. That does not work so much with health insurance. The underwriting department determines how much risk is in the risk pool by zip code. The final premium price is based off of that. Just ask any underwriting department at your local health insurance company.

Why did they not get a 35% mix of low risk to high risk policy holders? For one the amount of people who were already sick was underestimated. These are the same people the health insurance companies refused to sell a policy to because they had a pre-existing condition.

Do you remember being 28 - 30 years old? You are concerned with making your rent payment, your car payment and when and where your next hook up was going to be. Your not worried about getting health insurance or even worried that you might get sick.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I agree that the people with pre-existing conditions should pay more. Prior to the ACA being passed people with pre-exiting could not purchase health insurance at all from the health insurance companies in the individual market.

Maybe they didn't look around enough.. I do know several who DID get insurance even WITH pre-existing conditions, bu they paid through the roof for it..

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I did not lie you fucking moron. Your dumb ass does not know how to click on a link. You could keep your old policy as long as you enrolled in it the year before. The policy did not have to have the 10 minimum benefits that new policies must have. From the link you refused to click on. The definition of a Grandfathered plan.

Grandfathered Health Plan
An individual health insurance policy purchased on or before March 23, 2010. These plans weren’t sold through the Marketplace, but by insurance companies, agents, or brokers. They may not include some rights and protections provided under the Affordable Care Act.

I don’t lie either! Whenever you state facts that the deplorables don’t like and have no answer to they say your a liar. This is typical of the uneducated since they are not able to actually learn and have no thirst for knowledge, they prefer just babbling like morons.

Deplorables will never understand health insurance nor do they really care to!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

I don’t lie either! Whenever you state facts that the deplorables don’t like and have no answer to they say your a liar. This is typical of the uneducated since they are not able to actually learn and have no thirst for knowledge, they prefer just babbling like morons.

Deplorables will never understand health insurance nor do they really care to!

Your entire Sig lines a lie Bugs Bunny.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I did not lie you fucking moron. Your dumb ass does not know how to click on a link. You could keep your old policy as long as you enrolled in it the year before. The policy did not have to have the 10 minimum benefits that new policies must have. From the link you refused to click on. The definition of a Grandfathered plan.

Grandfathered Health Plan
An individual health insurance policy purchased on or before March 23, 2010. These plans weren’t sold through the Marketplace, but by insurance companies, agents, or brokers. They may not include some rights and protections provided under the Affordable Care Act.

Odumbo lied. Gruber lied, and you lied, you socialist dildo. Millions of American tax payers were denied "social justice" when Odumbocare cost them the insurance plan they were paying for, you socialist dildo.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

I did not lie ....

That's too bad, because they you could claim to know better!

So you actually believe the garbage you post!

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by garhkal

Maybe they didn't look around enough.. I do know several who DID get insurance even WITH pre-existing conditions, bu they paid through the roof for it..

According to IB idiot, it's not the governments problem if people have pre-existing conditions. IB idiot would let those who could not find health insurance remain uninsured.