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08-30-2015, 05:14 PM
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So being a trading partner is not financially advantageous to Iran? Is that what you're saying? I'm not flip-flopping shit, you disingenuous turd. I mean exactly what the fuck I said. They are a financial backer of Iran. Being a financial backer takes many forms, not just shipping them stacks of cash, idiot.
"Trade relations between the two increased from US$1 billion in 2005 to $3.7 billion in 2008"
"According to Reuters (Wed Apr 2, 2014), Iran and Russia have made progress towards an oil for goods deal sources said would be worth up to $20 billion."
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Damn, are you clueless! I never said trade isn't advantageous. Let me make it as simple as your pea-sized brain can grasp. Sellling you a car doesn't make me your "financial backer". Providing the financing for you to buy a car does. That's elementary. Only an idiot can't see the difference.
But even if I were to cut you some slack and overlook your flip-flopping redefinition of "chief financial backer" to mean "chief trading partner", you still look clueless. Here are Iran's top 5 trading partners last year, according to your favorite source of information (wikipedia):
Exports - China, Turkey, India, Japan, South Korea.
Imports - UAE, China, India, South Korea, Turkey.
So Russia is not Iran's "chief trading partner" either. In fact, it's not even among the top 5! And a multi-year barter trade deal isn't enough to change that picture, especially since most other countries will also be expanding trade with Iran as sanctions are lifted.
Give it up, sewer rat. I'm tired of schooling you all the time. Stay on the sidelines when the topic involves economics, finance, trade, oil markets or geopolitics. Stick to the gloryhole business since it's obviously the only thing you know well.
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08-30-2015, 05:27 PM
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#152
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Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
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Christian is code for idiot, most of the time. Illiterate? Me? Are you sure you want to go there?
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08-30-2015, 05:35 PM
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#153
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Damn, are you clueless! I never said trade isn't advantageous. Let me make it as simple as your pea-sized brain can grasp. Sellling you a car doesn't make me your "financial backer". Providing the financing for you to buy a car does. That's elementary. Only an idiot can't see the difference.
But even if I were to cut you some slack and overlook your flip-flopping redefinition of "chief financial backer" to "chief trading partner", you still look clueless. Here are Iran's top 5 trading partners last year, according to your favorite source of information (wikipedia):
Exports - China, Turkey, India, Japan, South Korea.
Imports - UAE, China, India, South Korea, Turkey.
So Russia is not Iran's "chief trading partner" either. In fact, it's not even among the top 5! And a multi-year barter trade deal isn't enough to change that picture, especially since most other countries will also be expanding trade with Iran as sanctions are lifted.
Give it up, sewer rat. I'm tired of schooling you all the time. Stay on the sidelines when the topic involves economics, finance, trade, or geopolitics. Stick to the gloryhole business since it's obviously the only thing you know well.
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Good ole LustyTard. Still at it, huh, little fella?
I'm tired of a lot of things. You claiming to hand someone their ass when the truth is the opposite, is the least of these worries. You're the one who brought us talleywackers, in the thread you started about it. Don't forget that. Stay out of my fucking business, how bout that, you fucking imbecile. You don't decide when and where I post. I'm the one telling you how it is, shitdick.
"Russia tried its best to keep the Americans and Iranians apart. Offers to sell Iran advanced air defense systems were designed to poke holes in U.S. threats to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities. Teams of Russian nuclear experts whetted Iran's appetite for civilian nuclear power with offers to build additional power reactors. Russian banks did their part to help Iran circumvent financial sanctions."
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/russ...s-us-iran-deal
http://www.hangthebankers.com/russia...ass-sanctions/
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08-30-2015, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WombRaider
Christian is code for idiot, most of the time. Illiterate? Me? Are you sure you want to go there?
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THOUGHT woomby THOUGHT
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08-30-2015, 05:41 PM
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Good ole LustyTard. Still at it, huh, little fella?
I'm tired of a lot of things. You claiming to hand someone their ass when the truth is the opposite, is the least of these worries. You're the one who brought us talleywackers, in the thread you started about it. Don't forget that. Stay out of my fucking business, how bout that, you fucking imbecile. You don't decide when and where I post. I'm the one telling you how it is, shitdick.
"Russia tried its best to keep the Americans and Iranians apart. Offers to sell Iran advanced air defense systems were designed to poke holes in U.S. threats to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities. Teams of Russian nuclear experts whetted Iran's appetite for civilian nuclear power with offers to build additional power reactors. Russian banks did their part to help Iran circumvent financial sanctions."
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/russ...s-us-iran-deal
http://www.hangthebankers.com/russia...ass-sanctions/
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" Stay out of my FUCKING business...." So you finally admit that you're at Talleywackers and just what you are doing there ! " Familia business " and all !!!! Keep taking it in BOTH ends woomby !!
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08-30-2015, 05:46 PM
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RL, since all you who OWE cjohnny54$ for 4, that why your government have government housing project and public transportation.... sell all your shit
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08-30-2015, 05:55 PM
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Christian is code for idiot, most of the time. Illiterate? Me? Are you sure you want to go there?
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Knight of Columbus ... they have to go around killing you thief and murder using Jesus name to collect/beg for money or else Jesus come back and WE all DEAD
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08-30-2015, 06:24 PM
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RL, since all you who OWE cjohnny54$ for 4, that why your government have government housing project and public transportation.... sell all your shit
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Did you ask woomby (your "chief financial backer") what he did with cjohnny54's money?
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08-30-2015, 07:13 PM
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Knight of Columbus ... they have to go around killing you thief and murder using Jesus name to collect/beg for money or else Jesus come back and WE all DEAD
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I'll take my chances on him coming back...
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08-30-2015, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Did you ask woomby (your "chief financial backer") what he did with cjohnny54's money?
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Aren't you reytardo's chief cum on his backer? You guys are getting to where you sound alike. Keep looking for the clean end of that turd.
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08-30-2015, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
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Are you sure that's what you wanna go with?
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08-30-2015, 11:39 PM
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Go back and look, turd burglar. I absolutely made the distinction. If you think I'm wrong, go back and find where I said it. I didn't. Social democracy is a government that is a hybrid. It has characteristics of both socialism and democracy. It uses economic and social means to bring about social justice and it does it within the workings of a capitalist economy. Germany, dipshit.
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Keep trying, turd swallower.
You apparently think that socialism and democracy are somewhat opposites when you distinguish between them by saying a social democracy "has characteristics of both socialism and democracy".
That statement makes no sense.
Democracy is government picked by all of the people (as opposed to a monarchy or an oligarchy). It doesn't tell you what TYPE of economic system is implemented by the government the people picked (socialist, capitalist, communist).
So a socialist system could be implemented by a democratically elected government. Or a socialist system could be imposed by a single party state, like China.
Want to try again?
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08-30-2015, 11:44 PM
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Keep trying, turd swallower.
You apparently think that socialism and democracy are somewhat opposites when you distinguish between them by saying a social democracy "has characteristics of both socialism and democracy".
That statement makes no sense.
Democracy is government picked by all of the people (as opposed to a monarchy or an oligarchy). It doesn't tell you what TYPE of economic system is implemented by the government the people picked (socialist, capitalist, communist).
So a socialist system could be implemented by a democratically elected government. Or a socialist system could be imposed by a single party state, like China.
Want to try again?
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That's exactly what I said. Are you fucking retarded? We don't even live in a democracy, shitbird. A social democracy absolutely has characteristics of both. Go look it up. I didn't come up with the idea.
"A social form of government achieved by democratic means"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
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08-31-2015, 12:03 AM
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That's exactly what I said. Are you fucking retarded? We don't even live in a democracy, shitbird. A social democracy absolutely has characteristics of both. Go look it up. I didn't come up with the idea.
"A social form of government achieved by democratic means"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
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Re-read your own statement. You fancy yourself literate but your statement that a social democracy "has characteristics of both socialism and democracy" clearly implies you think they are some kind of opposites.
As for your other statement that we don't live in a democracy, that also is stupid.
Of course we do. Our government is chosen by the people (poorly, yes, but still chosen by them).
The form of government is a republic, but it is clearly democratically chosen.
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08-31-2015, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
Re-read your own statement. You fancy yourself literate but your statement that a social democracy "has characteristics of both socialism and democracy" clearly implies you think they are some kind of opposites.
As for your other statement that we don't live in a democracy, that also is stupid.
Of course we do. Our government is chosen by the people (poorly, yes, but still chosen by them).
The form of government is a republic, but it is clearly democratically chosen.
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Jesus Christ. The form of government is republic, but it's democratically chosen? Ok, let's examine this turd as I search for a clean end.
The system of government we have is a republic. Not only are a republic and a democracy different, they're mutually incompatible.
A democracy is rule by majority. The minority has no protection whatsoever. This is true regardless of whether you're discussing direct or representative democracy. This is why the founding fathers were smart enough to select a republic, protecting individual rights and the tyranny of the majority. A democracy does not place importance on individual rights. It is simply majority rule. A republic, by its nature, is constructed to protect the rights of the minority against the majority.
Saying something contains two distinct parts does not automatically mean they are opposites. Why would you assume this? Are you saying that socialism and democracy are the same?
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