Guns don’t kill people. White supremacists with guns do.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so ya want to wait for 20 more mass shootings to blame Trump?


because that's what you are trying to do.

Seems that’s your MO, TWK.

How are you gonna stop it?

Maybe start by taking White Nationalist Trump’s Tweeter away from him.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems that’s your MO, TWK.

How are you gonna stop it?

Maybe start by taking White Nationalist Trump’s Tweeter away from him.

How do you stop the thugs from assaulting innocent MAGA hat wearing people...THAT'S RIGHT YOU DON'T WANT TO!!

“What you ignore, you empower. And what you condone, you own. But too many…stop the damage at those who are being maligned, and those who should stand up against it

[oeb11]

This thread has been deflected from the original topic of white supremacists as the cause of mass shootings, due to the tragedies of yesterday.
Lots of name-calling on both sides - but No Constructive suggestions for a Solution.


So - DPST's I"ll forward one of the leftist proposals.

Arm the AntiFa!!! Automatic weapons, bazookas, grenade launchers. armored military transport, tanks.
They will Brown-shirt the country to a solution gleefully embraced by the Marxist leftists.

It is your AntiFa - You own It.!!

[eccieuser9500]

The topic should have been about white nationalists.

Divide and conquer is his M.O.

Own that.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by oeb11

This thread has been deflected from the original topic of white supremacists as the cause of mass shootings, due to the tragedies of yesterday.
Lots of name-calling on both sides - but No Constructive suggestions for a Solution.


So - DPST's I"ll forward one of the leftist proposals.

Arm the AntiFa!!! Automatic weapons, bazookas, grenade launchers. armored military transport, tanks.
They will Brown-shirt the country to a solution gleefully embraced by the Marxist leftists.

It is your AntiFa - You own It.!!

Bullshit. Quote it.

Better yet, start a new thread.

And then quote it.

Your obsession with ANTIFA is beyond idiotic. Almost as desperate as Trump's attack on the media.

That said, you keep ducking and deflecting from my simple question, oeb11: DO YOU OWN A MAGA HAT? YES or NO.

Start your own thread, buddyboy.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bb1961

How do you stop the thugs from assaulting innocent MAGA hat wearing people...THAT'S RIGHT YOU DON'T WANT TO!!

“What you ignore, you empower. And what you condone, you own. But too many…stop the damage at those who are being maligned, and those who should stand up against it

Holy shit!

And then try and correlate that to the dozens of innocents gunned down by white supremacists.

Start your own thread about MAGA hats. Again. That's the real danger Americans face today.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Holy shit!

And then try and correlate that to the dozens of innocents gunned down by white supremacists.

Start your own thread about MAGA hats. Again. That's the real danger Americans face today.

Yeah MAGA hat...more of your complete nonsense.
Just like guns MAGA hat kill people...ban them both.
What about a firebombed ICE center in Seattle...doesn't fit your templet.
Thanks you thug supporting valued poster.

“What you ignore, you empower. And what you condone, you own. But too many…stop the damage at those who are being maligned, and those who should stand up against it

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Yeah MAGA hat...more of your complete nonsense.
Just like guns MAGA hat kill people...ban them both.
What about a firebombed ICE center in Seattle...doesn't fit your templet.
Thanks you thug supporting valued poster.

“What you ignore, you empower. And what you condone, you own. But too many…stop the damage at those who are being maligned, and those who should stand up against it

Hey man, YOU'RE the one going on and on about MAGA hats. Americans are dying at malls, in churches and synagogues, schools, nightclubs and you're worried about a guy beating you up because you wear an "I'm with Stupid" hat? You've already stated you'll be writing their obituaries, so you ought to feel safe.

And what does your continued accusation even mean?

I just got off the phone with my bookie in Vegas. They've set the over/under for you at 6 days. I took the under.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

And what does your continued accusation even mean?

You confuse accusations with facts...I posted YOUR words about the thugs you say you REGRET them being held accountable...I'm not going to stop calling you out on your lies!!
You're a HYPOCRITE...just like the drive-by media.
Thanks you thug supporting valued poster.

[Yssup Rider]

Links?

And back off on the lies and personal attacks, bb1961.

Vegas will be changing its line on you before I can get another bet down.

[Russ38]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

What a fucking lie!

Here is a list of the U.S. mass shooters and the number of people they killed in cold blood under the Trump administration. Only those who gunned down four or more people are to be listed for brevity purpose.

Stephen Paddock: 58
Devin Patrick Kelley: 26
Patrick Crusius: 20
Nikolas Cruz: 17
Dewayne Craddock: 12
Ian David Long: 12
Robert Bowers: 11
Dimitros Pagourtzis: 10
Gary Martin: 5
Kevin Janson Neal: 5
John Robert Neumann Jr.: 5
Jarrod Ramos: 5
Zephen A. Xaver: 5
Travis Reinking: 4
Timothy O'Brien Smith: 4

Why does domestic mass murder have to committed with only a firearm? If we’re strictly taking about body count, I’d be more concerned about someone armed with a truck and a load of fertilizer....

Timothy McVeigh: 168
1995-Bill C’s watch.....

[Look-at-Stupid]

Originally Posted by Russ38

Why does domestic mass murder have to committed with only a firearm? If we’re strictly taking about body count, I’d be more concerned about someone armed with a truck and a load of fertilizer....

Timothy McVeigh: 168
1995-Bill C’s watch.....

Why would you worry about that since amounts of fertilizer sold now fall under federal scrutiny?
https://www.businessinsider.com/okla...gulated-2011-8

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

ditto.

but you and I don't represent many young guys who will, and have shot many people since Trump took Office. if you disagree that Trump has influenced the recent high-level of mass shootings (that are mostly race-based), we can't even begin a discussion.

I can't really agree or disagree. I have no proof that Trump has directly influenced any of these shootings. No body knows what goes on in the hearts and minds of men who want to do violence.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by oeb11

This thread has been deflected from the original topic of white supremacists as the cause of mass shootings, due to the tragedies of yesterday.
Lots of name-calling on both sides - but No Constructive suggestions for a Solution.

The OP as has already been shown by it's own sources was a deflection and misdirection in and of itself.

Mass killings are unfortunately a media and left wing darling from a political standpoint and can be sensationalized, and then throw in the mass shooting statistics and you have outrage.

It's wasting how many posts and discussion arguing back and forth in here alone.

But they are still a blip in the overall statistics. No one wants to address the overall elephant in the room. Ah, but that doesn't necessarily make political points.

the GVA again.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

Year - Total Incidents - Total Mass Shooting Incidents
2014 - 44599 - 269
2015 - 53744 - 335
2016 - 58959 - 382
2017 - 61899 - 346
2018 - 57399 - 340
2019 YTD - 33076 - 253

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Stephen Paddock: 58 Cause never determined but he attacked Trump supporters.
Devin Patrick Kelley: 26 Dishonorably discharged airman, spousal abuser, and he attacked Trump supporting church goers. Shot by a Trump supporter.
Patrick Crusius: 20 A loner who has had anti Mexican sentiment before Trump ever took office. Says that the democrats and republicans are both responsible.
Nikolas Cruz: 17 Hispanic male, escaped notice because of Obama era regulations.
Dewayne Craddock: 12 Black Obama voter who shot his fellow government workers.
Ian David Long: 12 former marine suffering from PTSD who said he was insane and had nothing to do with Trump.
Robert Bowers: 11 Criticized Trump for having too many Jews in his inner circle. Did not like Trump.
Dimitros Pagourtzis: 10 His father was a fan of Dana Loesch a spokesman for the NRA and radio host. I guess you got us on that one. Guilt by associations of his father...
Gary Martin: 5 A black man who voted for Obama and had a laser sight.
Kevin Janson Neal: 5 A pot farmer who killed his wife decided to go after school kids.
John Robert Neumann Jr.: 5 Armed with handgun and knife.
Jarrod Ramos: 5 Hispanic male who targeted a newspaper that he felt was harassing him.
Zephen A. Xaver: 5 Sorry, out of time. Have to publish now.
Travis Reinking: 4
Timothy O'Brien Smith: 4

Still, not one single Trump supporter in the bunch. A couple who might like some of the things Trumps stands for but no one has published anything crediting their crimes to Trump.