Pfizer Vaccine Test Results Show Vaccine is 90% Effective

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Too bad not all Healthcare plans have that.

True. I believe most Medicare Advantage plans have it. I have been covered by 2 plans (Aetna and Blue Cross/Blue Shield) and both had similar offerings. And I know Humana does. But when I was covered by my company's health care plan, such perks were not offered.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

But when I was covered by my company's health care plan, such perks were not offered.

And it is not offered with Medicare or Medicaid! So ...

it won't be "offered" with the NewDealSandersKumola socialized medicine!

And roughly 180 million people covered by employer coverage don't have it now .... but most of them can't go to a gym and won't beable to when Bitten-Kumola team shut down America like their supporters have in the DumboCrat states.

Speedo: It's all about YOU, isn't it?

Back to the OP: Why did Pfizer wait until AFTER THE ELECTION to announce the EXISTENCE of a publicly available VACCINE?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

And it is not offered with Medicare or Medicaid! So ...

it won't be "offered" with the NewDealSandersKumola socialized medicine!

And roughly 180 million people covered by employer coverage don't have it now .... but most of them can't go to a gym and won't beable to when Bitten-Kumola team shut down America like their supporters have in the DumboCrat states.

Speedo: It's all about YOU, isn't it?

Back to the OP: Why did Pfizer wait until AFTER THE ELECTION to announce the EXISTENCE of a publicly available VACCINE?

You are making assumptions that will probably never happen. Time will tell.

You are understandably upset that your man lost to Biden. I don't think anything I stated points to it being all about me. But you can continue on with your inane comments. I expect it.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Back to the OP: Why did Pfizer wait until AFTER THE ELECTION to announce the EXISTENCE of a publicly available VACCINE?

Fact check: No evidence supports Trump’s claim that COVID-19 vaccine result was suppressed to sway election

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...was-suppressed

Pfizer CEO dismisses Trump Jr’s claim Covid vaccine announcement was held back to damage Trump
Pfizer’s chief executive officer has dismissed suggestions that the timing of their announcement about a highly-promising coronavirus vaccine was delayed until after the election, in a bid to deny Donald Trump any electoral boost.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1719837.html

Trump supporters always are looking for conspiracies, no matter how unfounded.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

As I said, no one is forced to do anything they prefer not to do under my Medicare Advantage program. I don't have to use the Silver Sneaker free gym membership program. I can decline the free in-home health screening. I can ignore their health recommendations.

LexusLover is just making up "They're taking away my freedom" to have something to bitch about.

Hell.....nobody is making him use socialized medicine aka Medicare!

He can have all the booze guns and dope he wants to stash out in his nursing home room!





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[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by WTF

LexusLover is just making up "They're taking away my freedom" to have something to bitch about.

Hell.....nobody is making him use socialized medicine aka Medicare!

He can have all the booze guns and dope he wants to stash out in his nursing home room!

Very true on Medicare. It is OPTIONAL. As is Medicare Advantage. Anyone who turns it down though is crazy. The only downside to Medicare is some doctors do not accept it -- too much paperwork.

As for Medicare Advantage, the cost is free to me and they pay $35 towards my Medicare montly payment. $10 copay for PCP, $50 for in-network specialists. If someone is taking away my freedom I will accept it at that cost.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Bad diet and lack of exercise is definitely a factor and it is one of the major reasons people end up on medications that may have been better controlled through better diet and exercise programs. In fact I am really surprised that our Government in it's quest to bring us better healthcare they haven't got a section in the Healthcare Law that would enable a person who has health issues that may be improved by a exercise program to have their gym fee be part of their healthcare just like drugs and Doctor visits. But that probably won't ever be the case. It's easier and much more profitable for doctors to dispense medications.

Companies do this with their employee healthcare. Credits for gym memberships, discounts for not smoking or quitting, discounts for hitting verified weight loss goals. Companies are also doing tests for cigarette smoking. All of these and more should be in a national healthcare plan. You don't have to do it, but pay less if you do.

[Yssup Rider]

Donnie Junior?

Fuck that guy.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

That's what the propaganda says anyway.

But that doesn't explain why the pharma industry contributed primarily to DumboCrats ... in this immediate past election and scrambled to oust Trump who reduced drug costs with a stroke of his pen UNTIL Congress got off their asses to control the cost of public health care for the U.S. public. Trump was also shifting the manufacturing of Rxs to the U.S. that would create millions of jobs instead of packing China's wallet on the backs of U.S. citizens.

Now, perhaps, Hunter can scoop up some more cash from Asia. He's "earned" it!

When you quoted me, you left out what I wrote about lawyers buying off Democratic politicians. Lawyers donate mostly to Democrats and their political contributions are multiples of the pharmaceutical industry's. The pharma industry only contributed more to Democrats this year, in the 2020 election. In past years their contributions were pretty balanced, or leaned towards Republicans. They probably thought, incorrectly, that they saw the writing on the wall, that Republicans would be shut out of government, and saw no point investing in losers.

That said, you've certainly got a point, if you expand your argument to money the drug industry spends on lobbying. They charge too much. They need to be slapped down. If they're going to price gouge in the USA, then shorten their patents. Incentives to manufacture more drugs in the USA is a good idea, but you have the risk that by cutting out foreign competitors, the drug companies will be able to jack their prices up even more. In fact a couple of Trump's executive orders make it easier to import drugs. I think those and his other executive orders to bring down drug prices were a good idea, and suspect you're correct, that lobbying and campaign contributions by the drug industry kept these measures from being taken earlier.

[rexdutchman]

Alot of dc needs to be " slapped down" its become ALL about money , But Beijing Biden isnt the answer

[Yssup Rider]

But it is the answer.

Maybe you didn’t understand the question.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[Tiny]

More great news, if you haven’t heard. The Moderna vaccine has been 94.5% effective so far in its Phase 3 clinical trial! And the people who took it and were infected (only about 5) didn’t get very sick. This vaccine does not require special refrigeration like the Pfizer vaccine.

Operation Warp Speed pumped $2 billion into this vaccine.

I hope those here who who suspect this vaccine is a con job promoted by Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and President Trump to promote their financial and political interests will realize they were mistaken and, given the opportunity, get the vaccine.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Back to the OP: Why did Pfizer wait until AFTER THE ELECTION to announce the EXISTENCE of a publicly available VACCINE?

I think Pfizer and Moderna both wanted to have at least 100 people infected, in their control group and vaccinated group combined. And that didn't happen until after the election. If they had announced prematurely, people would criticize them for not having enough data, probably including the anti-vaxxers here.

[dilbert firestorm]

next on the agenda...


pfizer collusion!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Fact check: No evidence supports Trump’s claim that COVID-19 vaccine result was suppressed to sway election

That is no "fact check"! It wasn't "Trump's claim"! It's a FACT.

I'm glad you've used your "education" to parrot the LameStreamMedia!

Speedo do you have even a FACTUAL clue as to when the pharma industry began "researching" and "exploring" a drug response to Covid-19? And secondly the SOURCE of Covid-19 ... meaning the medical-scientific origins of the "cell" and the original purpose of it?

Or do you still actually believe it festered in cave monkeys brought to a lap which escaped?

You keep listening to the LOONATICKS who embraced Russian Collusion et al. and PissLousy!