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07-21-2020, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bambino
Then why didn’t Onama fill those positions? That the main reason I voted for Trump, to fill the bench and SCOTUS with conservative judges. I thought the was the one thing he could get done. That effects the country long after a President leaves.
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So who is to blame?
Donald Trump inherited 88 district and 17 court of appeals vacancies. Fourteen months later he proclaimed “when I got in we had over 100 federal judges that weren’t appointed. I don’t know why Obama left that … Maybe he got complacent.”
The reasons for the vacancies—old news to most—was the flimsy confirmation record in the 2015-16 Senate (the 114th), with its new Republican majority. Just as it refused to consider Merrick Garland’s Supreme Court nomination, it shut down the lower court confirmation process. That’s water under the bridge. But documenting how the 114th Senate ratcheted up the contentiousness and polarization of an already broken confirmation process suggests how much harder it will be to ratchet it back into something with more comity and bipartisanship. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell now insists that there’s nothing “we can do …that’s more important … than confirming judges as rapidly as we get them.” Commentators boast that “Trump has had a massive impact on the federal bench.” The Republican majority refuses to grant Democratic senators privileges that Republicans and Democrats exploited vigorously in previous administrations.
Republicans took control of the Senate in 2014 during Obama’s last two years in office and did not confirm many of his nominees.
The Senate’s top Republicans, led by Majority Leader Mitchel McConnell (Ky.), teamed up to block Democratic efforts to push forward Obama’s nominees, slowing down confirmations by the most in six decades.
Under McConnell’s leadership, Republicans leaned on every procedural rule in the book to stop Obama’s court picks. They refused to recommend judicial nominees to Obama’s White House. They slow-walked committee hearings. If a nominee cleared the committee, Republicans made the person wait three times longer for a Senate confirmation vote than did President George W. Bush’s nominees. Their efforts to deny judicial nominees the ability to even get a vote on the Senate floor ultimately led Democrats to change the rules in order to make it easier to advance nominees.
When Republicans won control of the Senate in the fall of 2014, it got even harder for Obama’s judicial nominees. By the fall of 2015, the GOP was confirming judges at the slowest rate in more than 60 years and had left the federal bench emptier than it had been in decades. By the end of Obama’s presidency, Republicans had driven up the number of judicial emergencies ― when a court is so overburdened it can barely function ― from 12 to 43 in the span of two years.
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07-21-2020, 07:28 AM
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#137
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Uh, didn't you just stereotype those on the right?
While you may not believe in "open borders", what would be the effect of giving every single illegal in this country, not just Dreamers, who I'm inclined to let stay with permanent legal status but not get the right to vote.
The effect would be saying that immigration laws would not be enforced and many of the new breed of Democrats want to do away with ICE which is in effect doing away with border enforcement. No detention centers, no courts to hear asylum requests because if you are on American soil no matter how you got here, you are a citizen that can vote? That's insane.
You can say you are against it but that is the direction the party you are supporting is moving which is why I believe that after 2 years of a Biden Presidency with the House and Senate in Democrat hands, this will be the law of the land and will destroy our economy and will lead to a come back for Republicans.
Unfortunately, the only way for me to be proven right is to allow it to happen.
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I was very careful to use the word "more", not "all". You highlighted all my text except for the word "more".
more people on the left are concerned with the lives of others than those on the right
You obviously do not understand the definition of "open borders".
a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily
I do not support that in this country. No one I know does. I do disagree with you in that a person with permanent legal status should have the right to vote.
No one wants to do away with ICE. Some have suggested that the responsibilities of ICE be moved elsewhere.
As for the direction this country is moving. A whopping 23.6% of those polled (average over many polls) believe that this country is headed in the right direction. 68.8% say we are moving in the wrong direction.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...untry-902.html
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07-21-2020, 07:31 AM
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#138
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I don't see a scenario where enough people would vote for Biden, yet vote enough GOP down the ballot to make what you posit happen. Plus, too many GOP Senators are in dogfights to keep their seats (Collins, McSally, etc.) versus really only one Democrat Senator is vulnerable (Sen. Doug Jones from AL). I could see the GOP getting back some of the House seats they lost, especially in districts that will vote Trump...but not enough of those sorts of districts exist to flip it back.
Best case scenario for the GOP, unless things change dramatically from right now, is Trump barely winning re-election via the electoral college (but losing the popular vote again), losing only a few Senate seats (but not control of the Senate), and getting some of those "Trump district" House seats back (but not enough to flip the House). Trump would have a hard time getting another constitutionalist-type SCOTUS pick in, as Murkoski and Romney would now be able to hold the process "hostage" due to the slim GOP majority.
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I totally agree with your scenario. Much better chance, although a slim one, of Democrats gaining control of the Senate than Republicans gaining control of the House.
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07-21-2020, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
So who is to blame?
Donald Trump inherited 88 district and 17 court of appeals vacancies. Fourteen months later he proclaimed “when I got in we had over 100 federal judges that weren’t appointed. I don’t know why Obama left that … Maybe he got complacent.”
The reasons for the vacancies—old news to most—was the flimsy confirmation record in the 2015-16 Senate (the 114th), with its new Republican majority. Just as it refused to consider Merrick Garland’s Supreme Court nomination, it shut down the lower court confirmation process. That’s water under the bridge. But documenting how the 114th Senate ratcheted up the contentiousness and polarization of an already broken confirmation process suggests how much harder it will be to ratchet it back into something with more comity and bipartisanship. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell now insists that there’s nothing “we can do …that’s more important … than confirming judges as rapidly as we get them.” Commentators boast that “Trump has had a massive impact on the federal bench.” The Republican majority refuses to grant Democratic senators privileges that Republicans and Democrats exploited vigorously in previous administrations.
Republicans took control of the Senate in 2014 during Obama’s last two years in office and did not confirm many of his nominees.
The Senate’s top Republicans, led by Majority Leader Mitchel McConnell (Ky.), teamed up to block Democratic efforts to push forward Obama’s nominees, slowing down confirmations by the most in six decades.
Under McConnell’s leadership, Republicans leaned on every procedural rule in the book to stop Obama’s court picks. They refused to recommend judicial nominees to Obama’s White House. They slow-walked committee hearings. If a nominee cleared the committee, Republicans made the person wait three times longer for a Senate confirmation vote than did President George W. Bush’s nominees. Their efforts to deny judicial nominees the ability to even get a vote on the Senate floor ultimately led Democrats to change the rules in order to make it easier to advance nominees.
When Republicans won control of the Senate in the fall of 2014, it got even harder for Obama’s judicial nominees. By the fall of 2015, the GOP was confirming judges at the slowest rate in more than 60 years and had left the federal bench emptier than it had been in decades. By the end of Obama’s presidency, Republicans had driven up the number of judicial emergencies ― when a court is so overburdened it can barely function ― from 12 to 43 in the span of two years.
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Obama was to blame. He lost both chambers of Congress. BTW, did the polls predict that Obama would lose 63 seats in the House in 2012? In his words, a “shellacking”
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07-21-2020, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bambino
Obama was to blame. He lost both chambers of Congress. BTW, did the polls predict that Obama would lose 63 seats in the House in 2012? In his words, a “shellacking”
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lol. So in your logic the fact that Republicans took control of the Senate in 2014 and blocked almost all of Obama's appointees, that is Obama's fault?
Actually Democrats picked up 8 seats in the House in 2012. I assume you meant 2010.
Obviously polls will differ in their projections.
This person predicted Republicans to pick up 70 seats.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2010/...-jim-geraghty/
RealClearPolitics predicted Republicans to win 225 seats with an additional 43 Toss Ups. Republicans actually won 242 seats. I would call that VERY accurate.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...house_map.html
And yes, it was a shellacking. And Obama took the blame. I don't recall Trump taking any of the blame for Republican House losses in 2018.
President Obama Takes Responsibility for Democrats' Loss, Saying, 'I've Got to Do a Better Job'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vote...ry?id=12046360
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07-21-2020, 09:02 AM
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lol. So in your logic the fact that Republicans took control of the Senate in 2014 and blocked almost all of Obama's appointees, that is Obama's fault?
Actually Democrats picked up 8 seats in the House in 2012. I assume you meant 2010.
Obviously polls will differ in their projections.
This person predicted Republicans to pick up 70 seats.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2010/...-jim-geraghty/
RealClearPolitics predicted Republicans to win 225 seats with an additional 43 Toss Ups. Republicans actually won 242 seats. I would call that VERY accurate.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...house_map.html
And yes, it was a shellacking. And Obama took the blame. I don't recall Trump taking any of the blame for Republican House losses in 2018.
President Obama Takes Responsibility for Democrats' Loss, Saying, 'I've Got to Do a Better Job'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vote...ry?id=12046360
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It was so bad Obama couldn’t spin it, neither could the LSM.
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07-21-2020, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
I was very careful to use the word "more", not "all". You highlighted all my text except for the word "more".
more people on the left are concerned with the lives of others than those on the right
You obviously do not understand the definition of "open borders".
a situation in which goods and people can enter and leave a country easily
I do not support that in this country. No one I know does. I do disagree with you in that a person with permanent legal status should have the right to vote.
No one wants to do away with ICE. Some have suggested that the responsibilities of ICE be moved elsewhere.
As for the direction this country is moving. A whopping 23.6% of those polled (average over many polls) believe that this country is headed in the right direction. 68.8% say we are moving in the wrong direction.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...untry-902.html
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you are one deluded dude
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07-21-2020, 11:27 AM
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you are one deluded dude
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EL thinks he’s a realist.
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07-21-2020, 12:01 PM
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more people on the left are concerned with the lives of others than those on the right
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As democrats burn down our cities, riot, loot businesses, attack police officers, destroy national treasures, and disregard all logic and science so kids can’t go back to school. Care about the lives of others? GTFO with that idiocy. Democrats care about one thing only, power, and couldn’t give less of a shit how many millions of lives they have to destroy to regain it.
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07-21-2020, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
As democrats burn down our cities, riot, loot businesses, attack police officers, destroy national treasures, and disregard all logic and science so kids can’t go back to school. Care about the lives of others? GTFO with that idiocy. Democrats care about one thing only, power, and couldn’t give less of a shit how many millions of lives they have to destroy to regain it.
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Amen, brother!
You speak the plain blunt truth... about which speedy is sadly in denial!
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07-21-2020, 12:26 PM
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you are one deluded dude
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Not sure if speedy gets it, so let's spell it out nice and slowly for him:
OPEN BORDERS means gangs, murderers, rapists, lowlifes, thieves, recidivist offenders and drug cartels are free to come and go, commit crimes anywhere in these United States and make all of us unsafe...
...which means anyone who favors OPEN BORDERS cannot possibly "be more concerned with the lives of others" than people who want border security.
Did Kate Steinle's life matter? Was the left at all "concerned about her life"? Did they shed any tears for Kate?
Did they even consider for one moment the need to rescind the brainless sanctuary city policies that led to her death?
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07-21-2020, 12:33 PM
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Did Kate Steinle's life matter?
Not to any DPST supporter - whose delusion dictates that all individuals crossing open bordes will automatically become citizens with the right to Vote - and will Vote DPST. Keeping the DPST's in power for eternity.
SR is in sad, sad denial of the reality of the radical leftists denial of the rule of law.
See how the OBLM and anti-Fa disrupted a support the police rally and assaulted Michelle Malkin in denver : https://www.newsbreak.com/colorado/d...ally-in-denver
The Leftists have no respect for the rule of law.
SR is deluded.
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07-21-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by oeb11
Did Kate Steinle's life matter?
Not to any DPST supporter - whose delusion dictates that all individuals crossing open bordes will automatically become citizens with the right to Vote - and will Vote DPST. Keeping the DPST's in power for eternity.
SR is in sad, sad denial of the reality of the radical leftists denial of the rule of law.
See how the OBLM and anti-Fa disrupted a support the police rally and assaulted Michelle Malkin in denver : https://www.newsbreak.com/colorado/d...ally-in-denver
The Leftists have no respect for the rule of law.
SR is a deluded moron.
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07-21-2020, 01:00 PM
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lol. So in your logic the fact that Republicans took control of the Senate in 2014 and blocked almost all of Obama's appointees, that is Obama's fault?
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Hey speedy, I don't have time to go into all of the details, but there are some big holes in your memory of recent political history!
First, you should look up all of the Bush judicial appointees blocked or slow-walked by the dim-retard Senate from 2006-2008. That's when they first poisoned the well.
Then look up how odumbo got dirty Harry Reid to invoke the "nuclear option" in 2013, eliminating the Senate filibuster for all judicial appointments except SCOTUS. This enabled the dim-retards to expand and stack the DC Federal District Court of Appeals (which handles most federal regulatory issues) with like-minded libtards.
Except it backfired when Republicans took back a Senate majority in 2014. The reason odumbo had so many vacancies when he left office two years later is because he kept nominating judges whose views and judicial philosophies were so far left they couldn't even win a smidgen of support from a handful of moderate Republican Senators.
You need to brush up on your history, speedy. Then maybe you can come back and give us a more two-sided version of how we got here.
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07-21-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Not sure if speedy gets it, so let's spell it out nice and slowly for him:
OPEN BORDERS means gangs, murderers, rapists, lowlifes, thieves, recidivist offenders and drug cartels are free to come and go, commit crimes anywhere in these United States and make all of us unsafe...
...which means anyone who favors OPEN BORDERS cannot possibly "be more concerned with the lives of others" than people who want border security.
Did Kate Steinle's life matter? Was the left at all "concerned about her life"? Did they shed any tears for Kate?
Did they even consider for one moment the need to rescind the brainless sanctuary city policies that led to her death?
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Speedy thinks there’s only a “few” voices in government (Democrats) from the far left!!!!! How real is that!!!!!!!
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