Democrats lose control of the House - see ya Pelosi

[Budman]

Sharp, you are a bigger fool than I thought. Since you are still feeling the pain of yesterdays election I'll refrain from telling you exactly what I think of you. That and it would probably get me banned. Have fun for the next 2 years because in 2012 you libs will lose the senate and the white house.

[F-Sharp]

Yes Derek, that's exactly what they are. You want to help prove it? If you happen to agree with them here's a challenge for you. You tell me exactly which policies Obama has implemented since he's taken office that support your claim of the first two years of this Administration being "a joke". You'll need to be specific, tell us what specific policies, when were they enacted, and exactly what the negative impact has been since that time. No conjecture, no propaganda, just hard facts, and quote your sources.

Originally Posted by derek303

Then I guess most people are "Fox Misinformed briawashed fools." The election sure showed it. Fox News more than doubled CNN and MSNBC coverage put together. I think Fox has 7.5 million viewers and CNN had 2.4Mil. and MSNBC ( the most liberal) had 1.7 Mil. The 1st 2 years of this administration was a joke! Maybe Obama will right his ship now that he doesn't have the house and the senate. This election was a mass murder on the Democrats.

[F-Sharp]

OK Budman. Here's your challenge. You tell me exactly why you think any single thing will change now that the GOP holds the house majority. What exactly do you think this newly elected House is going to change, and how exactly is it going to improve our current collective situation in this country? Again, no conjecture, no Fox News bullshit. Just facts, and quote your sources.

Incidentally, I am not feeling any pain. I personally think it's the best thing that could have happened to Obama. Now this lame-duck congress can be held to task, and people can go back to blaming Republicans for all their problems. I've already started working on my "white-monkey eating BBQ on the backdrop of unemployment numbers" t-shirt.

Originally Posted by Budman

Sharp, you are a bigger fool than I thought. Since you are still feeling the pain of yesterdays election I'll refrain from telling you exactly what I think of you. That and it would probably get me banned. Have fun for the next 2 years because in 2012 you libs will lose the senate and the white house.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by F-Sharp

Incidentally, I am not feeling any pain. I personally think it's the best thing that could have happened to Obama. Now this lame-duck congress can be held to task, and people can go back to blaming Republicans for all their problems. .

When have you libs not blamed the Republicans?

[F-Sharp]

For me it was Gerald Ford, 1977. I keep hoping they'll pull their heads out of their asses every year since, but I don't think it's going to happen any time soon. I think Colin Powell had a chance and probably could have saved their piss-poor reputation. Sadly it never came to fruition.

So are you going to accept my challenge, or simply conceed that you're completely full of shit and don't have a clue what you're talking about?

BTW, I am no "lib", and certainly not your Fox News definition of one. I tend to be socially liberal in the true sense of the word, but I am a fiscal conservative. I don't call myself a Democrat, but I do have a burning hatred for the current Republican party and their fascist corporatist idealogy.

So there's no confusion over what I am or am not, and given that Fox News rejects have a tendency to throw the word liberal around like it's a bad thing:

Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom")[1] is the belief in the importance of individual liberty and equal rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

Originally Posted by Budman

When have you libs not blamed the Republicans?

[sixxbach]

Politics always bring about heated discussion and debate. Let's do that without name calling or insults.

Thanks,

sixx

[machina70]

Yeah and we saw what great things happen when Republicans are in control.

By the way... it's the oldest trick in the book to make you hate your neighbors while they fatten their bank accounts.

Here's your sign for falling for it.

When you think AMERICANS are the problem, you're doing it wrong.

[GneissGuy]

Warning: video with audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj...eature=related

[rCoder]

Originally Posted by F-Sharp

BTW, I am no "lib", and certainly not your Fox News definition of one. I tend to be socially liberal in the true sense of the word, but I am a fiscal conservative. I don't call myself a Democrat, but I do have a burning hatred for the current Republican party and their fascist corporatist idealogy.

So there's no confusion over what I am or am not, and given that Fox News rejects have a tendency to throw the word liberal around like it's a bad thing:

Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom")[1] is the belief in the importance of individual liberty and equal rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

Modern American liberalism is a form of social liberalism developed from progressive ideals such as Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It combines social liberalism and social progressivism with support for a welfare state and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government entitlements such as education and health care.[1]
Keynesian economic theory played a central role in the economic philosophy of American liberals.[2] The argument was that national prosperity required government management of the macroeconomy, to keep unemployment low, inflation in check, and growth high

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_..._United_States

The party that currently advocates your definition of liberalism is the libertarian party.

[RALPHEY BOY]

I have lived through what Frank and Dodd have done, I have lost my house, ruined my credit for a few years due to stupid fuking idiotic laws these two fuking idiots passed. some of the laws are good but a few have killed the mortgage industry even further.

Wall Street is to blame and Frank and Dodd stood by and watched Fannie and Freddie fail then act like 'we are here to save America" bull shit!!!

[theaustinescorts]

Actually I think there's a chance for real reform in all this.

I think everyone in Washington has finally gotten the message this time.

What's left of our democracy may have worked a little. Like always it's taking a major crisis to bring it about.

[djselzner]

I'm a lurker for various reasons. Used to post back in the day on ASPD, but not often.

Reading these posts it become so clear as to why having a reasonable conversation over politics is next to impossible anymore in this country.

Obama nor the Republicans want to ruin the country. Both have good ideas. Yes, some are whackos, but, jesus, it's just a difference of opinion.

I've spent 4 of the last 6 years of my life serving in Iraq/Afghanistan on the front lines. I've seen my friends die for a country that I love more than anything. It saddens me that reasonable people can no longer disagree. Bush is a Nazi? Obama is a closet Muslim? When I come back home I often wonder if any of the people back in this country are even worth the sacrifices that my men have made.

Depressing.

[derek303]

D.J. thank you for your service.

[F-Sharp]

That chance is slim to none, unless that reform happens to come from Obama himself. McConnel and Boehner have both stated without any uncertainty that preventing Obama from getting re-elected is their first and only real priority. Real reform and the interests of the American people are not even a close second to these folks.

"McConnell, who is speaking at the Heritage Foundation on Thursday, caught flak for saying after Tuesday's election that his primary objective now is to convince voters to remove Obama from office in 2012."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...mains-defiant/

The Republican party has severely misunderstood what went down Tuesday. Voters are upset that our government has become ineffective, not over-reaching. Voters are not upset about Obama's spending, they are upset that the little spending he has done was not as effective as promised, nor distrubted as well as it should have been.

By promising to become even more ineffective, McConnell and Boehner will essentially be giving Obama another four years in the White House.

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Actually I think there's a chance for real reform in all this.

I think everyone in Washington has finally gotten the message this time.

What's left of our democracy may have worked a little. Like always it's taking a major crisis to bring it about.

[derek303]

The people have spoken. If Obama ran against any (R) today he would lose. Sorry you feel you are smarter than everyone else. Unless your on welfare, a baby momma check, a union worker (overpaid), on 2 year unemployment, African American ( for no damn good reason 90% vote D), an under 30 dumbass kid or basically want something more than you earn I don't know why you would vote D. You take away that voting block above and D's would get as much votes as the Green party. For me who happens to work his ass off and always has and make great money most vote R unless your a musician or a movie star.