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CuteOldGuy · 08-27-2012, 08:27 AM

Two more US soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, by our allies. Why the hell are we still there? Obama promised we'd be out. He lied. People are dying because of his lies.

We must leave Afghanistan immediately. There is nothing to win there, only more to lose.

Obama is a war criminal, like GW Bush. It's time for their trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...=MYWAY&ei=5065

JD Barleycorn · 08-27-2012, 09:35 AM

As guess you agree with John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) who asked "How Do You Ask a Man to be the Last Man to Die for a Mistake?" Bush was about winning the war in Afghanistan and getting OBL. Obama, like Clinton in Somalia, changed the mission to keeping boots on the grouind until after the election but he had no plan (flawed or otherwise) for winning the war. Why do you think we started negoiating with the Taliban at the same time we were killing them. These men are being sacrificed on the altar of Obama's political ambition.

Either get with winning the war or get out now. Now you can discuss whether or not we can win the war and what that looks like.

i'va biggen · 08-27-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Two more US soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, by our allies. Why the hell are we still there? Obama promised we'd be out. He lied. People are dying because of his lies.

We must leave Afghanistan immediately. There is nothing to win there, only more to lose.

Obama is a war criminal, like GW Bush. It's time for their trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/...=MYWAY&ei=5065

you are a sick fuck at times,look at who took us there and did a half assed job so we could start a war somewhere else.We have been fucking around in that country longer than WW2...

JD Barleycorn · 08-27-2012, 10:28 AM

Do I have to say this again (of course I do. You have cognition problems) Obama changed the mission just like Clinton did. Remember Somalia (I do)? We went there to feed people and when Clinton came in he wanted to nation build. We started letting the warlords call some of the shots for food distribution. Big mistake but the thinking was one of those little piss ants might turn out to the Somalia George Washinton. We see how well that worked out.

As for politics you should be very careful. You are blaming Bush (again) for the circumstances that Obama inherited in Afghanistan though Obama called that war the good war and the just war. Obama ignored his generals, delayed making decisions, and gave the troops ridiculous rules to follow or they would face prison. When Romney takes over in January you will have to blame ANYTHING that happens on Obama for what he left Romney. Are you ready to take the "One" to the toolshed?

CuteOldGuy · 08-27-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ekim008

you are a sick fuck at times,look at who took us there and did a half assed job so we could start a war somewhere else.We have been fucking around in that country longer than WW2...

I think I included the guy who got us there, if you read my post correctly.

And if I'm a "sick fuck" for wanting to end a stupid, pointless war with no definition of victory, and save the lives of soldiers who are there for no reason, then so be it.

i'va biggen · 08-27-2012, 11:29 AM

No I would like it to be over I am tired of seeing pictures in silence on PBS they have been showing them for 10 years.the draw down is in place But to blame every casualty on the pres (Bush or Obie) is silly.

CuteOldGuy · 08-27-2012, 11:36 AM

Bush made the stupid/criminal decision to go there in the first place. Obama lied about getting us out.

So who's responsible?

Yssup Rider · 08-27-2012, 11:58 AM

You are.

Doove · 08-27-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Obama promised we'd be out. He lied. People are dying because of his lies.

When did he promise that?

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Bush was about winning the war in Afghanistan and getting OBL.

Seriously, dude, if you voted for Bush in '04, then you really need to shut up when it comes to talking about the war(s).

BigLouie · 08-27-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Bush made the stupid/criminal decision to go there in the first place. Obama lied about getting us out.

So who's responsible?

You are? And what do you think Romney would do? He is already indicating that he is ready to send troops to Syria. I serious doubt if Romney would pull the troops, if anything I fully expect him to send more back.

CuteOldGuy · 08-27-2012, 09:55 PM

What makes you think that if I oppose Obama I support Romney? I don't. I fully expect for Romney to be as stupid and/or criminal as Bush and Obama when it comes to stuff like this.

Submodo · 08-27-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Two more US soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, by our allies. Why the hell are we still there?

We are still there because it is very profitable for many very large multi-national corporations.

CuteOldGuy · 08-27-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Submodo

We are still there because it is very profitable for many very large multi-national corporations.

BINGO! We have a winner!

cptjohnstone · 08-27-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Submodo

We are still there because it is very profitable for many very large multi-national corporations.

who gives kick backs to bho to send his kid to Mexico for spring break

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/trave...773/story.html

JD Barleycorn · 08-28-2012, 02:09 AM

COG, I have to call you on this. This country was attacked by the Taliban and they were in Afghanistan. What did you want us to do? The decision was neither stupid or criminal. Force was authorized by Congress so cut the shit about criminal. The enemy was in Afghanistan so cut the shit about stupid.