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Old 08-26-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default The "Guaranteed Money" concept

I'm an old hobbiest (40yo with 15 years experience in the Hobby) and I stay under the radar as much as I can. I usually have several UTR's and dip into the eccie pond occasionally too. I've had a dozen or so UTR's (sugar babies) with one lasting 3 years. My UTR's are infinitely superior in the GFE area to most providers but after a year or so with any UTR sugar baby everybody wants to "reach out and touch someone" for some variety.

I thought I'd share the deal I have with my two primary UTR's and get some feedback from the providers and guys on what you guys think. I know I'm getting a good deal, but what do you think about their deal? Is it fair for them too?

The first girl is a drop dead gorgeous blonde haired blue eyed 19yo college girl. I shit you not, this beautiful girl dropped out of the sky into my lap about a year and a half ago. She was having trouble making ends meet and I offered to help her out. She has a daddy who keeps her on a tight financial leash and a bf who expects her to shower him with gifts just the way he does to her. She doesn't want him to figure out she's not rich so into the picture I walk. At our first lunch we figured out on the back of a menu what her expenses were less her income. It netted out to about 150 bucks a week she was short.

I said, now look, I'd easily pay 250 to sleep with you once, but honestly, you'd be my dessert treat at that rate, not my main dish. I'd only see you once a month or so because it's more money than I'm comfortable spending at a single time unless it's something special. She was nodding in agreement with me as I stated my case . . . And then I had the idea of a lifetime . .. . "Guaranteed Money" . . . I said, your shortfall is 150 a week right? what if I promise you exactly that amount, "guaranteed money" whether you see me or not - it's guaranteed. I said I'd cover her shortfall every week, cheerfully . . . and if that meant I missed a week so be it, but I'd make sure she always had enough money to pay her bills.

Interestingly, she was the one who actually came up with the flaw in that plan, she said, "but what if I never agreed to see you, how long would you keep paying me." . . . I laughed and said, "not very long I guess". . . we both though that was funny and realized she needed the steady money for the next year and wouldn't kill the golden goose just for a free 150 bucks one week. And I was happy to take that chance and handed her 100 bucks on the spot. I said, "you're my sugar baby now, you can expect money every time you see me weather we sleep together or not." and I left. That gesture of good faith really won her over, she texted me an hour later asking to meet me at a hotel the next day because she need her 150 that week for a bill.

Well, it's been 18 months since we began that plan and I have lived up to every week of my commitment. On the weeks where it's impossible to get together and I have to meet her in a parking lot on the way to the airport and toss her 150 before I jump on a plane, she always feels guilty and asks if I want a bj or something to remember her by while I'm in another city. She's so sweet . . . and if she meets me out for drinks (she has to use a fake ID - too funny), I give her 100 bucks and a smile.

What's funny is that when she's low on cash she'll ask if she can see me twice in a week, or sometimes 3 times because she has books to buy. I step up every time and make sure to fuck her 3 times that week so she can buy her books, I'm just that nice a guy!! . . . I need her to know she can count on me. lol, Basically, I'm this hot chicks personal ATM machine that she fucks and it dolls out 150 dollar bills any time she wants it to.

It works for both of us but what do you providers think? Am I taking advantage of her?

The second girl is a hispanic cutie who is about 40. She a little heavy in the hips but has nicely enhanced breasts and a thin waist. I'd say she's a "9 . . . out of 20" to borrow a funny line from Willard. The first time I met her I thought, "I can do her once, but she's really not cute enough for the long term". So when it got to the negotiation she asked what I had in mind I thought I'd take a chance on tossing this girl back into the pond. I threw out a price I'd actually be comfortable seeing her at every week at and said, "100 bucks a week guaranteed." Then I explained the Guaranteed Money concept and she was hooked. She said OK and we've been fucking every week for the last month for 100 bucks. Now that's a deal folks!! But I think she's happy too, I'm a fun guy to be around, she always has an orgasm, and I pay some of her bills. plus she never has to put any pictures up on BP or eccie and take a chance on that forever altering her life. It works for both of us.

I just thought I'd share, I welcome your comments.
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:52 PM   #2
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I have had similar deals with many wonderful ladies over the last 10 years. Several lasted 2+ years.

Most providers don't understand the concept or safety.....all they see is a Huge "discount" in the fee they believe they are entitled to.

The smart ones understand.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:12 PM   #3
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CB, there's a difference between having a sugar baby (who is not a provider) like the op describes and being a cheap bastard trying to con a provider into giving you a discount.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:15 PM   #4
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I like this concept
Looking for a girl now.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:22 PM   #5
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Now, that is my idea of a SB/SD relationship. If I want a real hobby pro I can always find one here on ECCIE, well reviewed and more or less on call. On the other hand, having regular and frequent access to a UTR "amature" for peanuts-a-pop is not to be passed up.



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Old 08-26-2012, 03:24 PM   #6
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CB, there's a difference between having a sugar baby (who is not a provider) like the op describes and being a cheap bastard trying to con a provider into giving you a discount.
The providers who I saw for extended periods of time were actually the ones who made the offers, not me.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #7
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So...600/mn min. plus if you have extra meetings.

Damn good guaranteed money...for 6-10hrs or less each month.
That could almost cover a months rent for some and certainly a car note.

There are all kinds of deals out there....seems on the face of it, you are both happy.
If you are really concerned about her getting a bad deal....this may not be the best place for realistic responses as apparently many hobbiest and providers on here assume provider services to be worth 5 times what a hobbiest gets paid for his services.

I too have had several similar arragements over the years...often running for more than a year at a time. If she feels she is not getting a good deal...you can bet, she will seek out and find one she likes better.

Everyone is always shopping/hunting...

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Old 08-26-2012, 06:26 PM   #8
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dam would likw deal like that 100 a week the hispanic cutie sound nice thats what i want with bbj, and loves to kiss am i in laland
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:06 PM   #9
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Catch them before they are escorts.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:08 PM   #10
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Is one that cheerleader?
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:27 PM   #11
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Sounds like it makes you happy and the girl happy in both scenarios. Win/win if both parties are happy.

I had a girl offer me a similar guaranteed money weekly arrangement. I said OK and she's been MIA since. LOL
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:35 PM   #12
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OP she agreed to the deal, if she or you aren't happy I don't think either would have any qualms about moving on. It's only taking advantage if one or the other feels that way. Truth of the matter is you are the one that can answer your own question better than anyone else. You know your reasons far better than anyone else. The only two people's opinion on this that truly matter are you and her.

Like one said already, this is the wrong place to be asking
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:57 PM   #13
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Everybody is unique and every relationship is unique. If a relationship stands the test of time, then, that's a functional relationship.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:20 PM   #14
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There a point to this? Posted in the wrong forum...
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:54 PM   #15
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I got a girl I see for $100/visit and I promise to see her 6 times a month.........that covers her half of the rent. I think I've seen a review of her on here where she charged 140?
i'm fine with my deal and i think she is too. if everyon'es fine and it ain't broke, why fix it? seems to me like yall be fine too
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