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Old 08-01-2012, 10:56 PM   #31
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and what does have to do with WMD's?
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:07 PM   #32
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We've seen that before, Bossy. It's bullshit.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:44 AM   #33
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thats good !!!

a decade later someone says wmd's existed even though our sophistcated equipment that can sniff out a fly fart from 2 miles couldnt find anything even closely related to chemical weapons.

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how do I know?

if all of the constant testing uncovered one single trace of anything chemical wouldnt you think Bush would have been standing ON TOP of the fuckin White House telling the world all about it?

moving shit before the war doesnt stop a sophisticated machine from detecting trace elements in chemicals that previously existed ... nothing had been there and nothing was there, simple as that.
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the hands on report from our very own HIGHLY TRAINED MIITARY search teams using the most sophisticated equipment in the world is the only reprot that holds any water with me ...

wmd's did not exist before we invaded or after we invaded.

end of story
Chemical weapon attacks

The five-hour attack began early in the evening of March 16, 1988, following a series of indiscriminate conventional (rocket and napalm) attacks, when Iraqi MiG and Mirage aircraft began dropping chemical bombs on Halabja's residential areas, far from the besieged Iraqi army base on the outskirts of the town. According to regional Kurdish rebel commanders, Iraqi aircraft conducted up to 14 bombings in sorties of seven to eight planes each; helicopters coordinating the operation were also seen. Eyewitnesses told of clouds of smoke billowing upward "white, black and then yellow"', rising as a column about 150 feet (46 m) in the air.

Survivors said the gas at first smelled of sweet apples; they said people died in a number of ways, suggesting a combination of toxic chemicals (some of the victims "just dropped dead" while others "died of laughing"; while still others took a few minutes to die, first "burning and blistering" or coughing up green vomit). It is believed that Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX; some sources have also pointed to the blood agent hydrogen cyanide (most of the wounded taken to hospitals in the Iranian capital Tehran were suffering from mustard gas exposure).


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Old 08-02-2012, 01:18 AM   #34
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I could write that I remember reading several stories about the discovery of chemical weapon remnants but you would not believe me. I wonder why you didn't read them.

Washington Post announces discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq in 2005.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081300530.html

The Atlantic announces that US forces purchased chemical weapons in Iraq in 2004.
http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dis...n-iraq/180872/

New York Post confirms Atlantic story that chemical weapons were discovered in 2004.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM

UN overview of recently discovered chemical weapons in 2006.
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/...-munitions.pdf

Global Security gives a breakdown of Iraq's known chemical weapons.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo.../cw-unscom.htm

Fox News reports sarin gas discovered in Iraq in 2004.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

MSNBC somehow missed all the other reports and said no WMDs discovered in 2005.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/...md-found-iraq/
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:30 AM   #35
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Like I have always said people will cling to their guns and religion and believe anything from any source to align those views.

People that believe in aliens read the Globe as their Bible.

Even G W Bush does not believe now that there were WMD's in Iraq. Not that he knows more than our resident righties! They know everything!
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:04 AM   #36
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It is a known fact Saddam used gas on the Kurds.Rove stated in his book it was of his opinion Bush would not have attact Iraq if he had known the truth about the WMDS.But what does he know compared to IB and JD????
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:13 AM   #37
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I'm with Olivia on this one!
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WTF and Olivia Howard agreeing on a subject?

Shit, this is worse than I thought!

Excuse me while I go have a heart attack!
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:05 AM   #38
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We've seen that before, Bossy. It's bullshit.

Still 99% brain dead, COF? You should be forced to document your lies and then be man enough to apologize when you're caught attempting to use those dishonest political hack sites for that false documentation!


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and what does have to do with WMD's?
Try to keep up, Cap'n! It shows the blithering idiot syndrome is still alive and well among the anti-Obama crowd no matter what proof exists disproving the lies.

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It is a known fact Saddam used gas on the Kurds.Rove stated in his book it was of his opinion Bush would not have attact Iraq if he had known the truth about the WMDS.But what does he know compared to IB and JD????
Exactly, ekim!

This all goes together in showing that the Teapublicans will believe anything FAUX says. Not only is Obama's spending not the most prolific among modern presidents but the CHEMICAL Weapons Saddam had were ANCIENT and not being developed by Iraq as you mention.

Even Olivia recognizes and states that Bush ordered the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq so he could start the war even though Saddam had agreed to allow resumption of the inspections before the deadline.

Hussein (as our ally against the Iranians) was SUPPLIED with Sarin Gas Artillery shells by the U.S. over a decade before "Iraqi Freedom"!

That is also why one of J.D. Bullcorn's quotes talks about "UNEARTHING OLD ROUNDS" as in artillery rounds used to shell the Iranians during that war. It is also why we found very little evidence of the gas in those buried shells. They were over a decade old and the fucking gas had all leaked out of the cannisters in the shells.

Here is a direct quote from one of Bullcorn's links. Warning: please take the use of the term "WMD" with the proverbial grain of salt. Somehow artillery shells with all the Sarin gas leaked out and buried in the desert for over a decade are not "WMD'S" in the minds of anyone but FAUX and Teapublicans who are grasping for straws.


From a Bullcorn link in the Atlantic:
"Even late in the war, WMDs were still being unearthed. In the summer of 2008, according to one WikiLeaked report, American troops found at least 10 rounds that tested positive for chemical agents. “These rounds were most likely left over from the [Saddam]-era regime. Based on location, these rounds may be an AQI [Al Qaeda in Iraq] cache. However, the rounds were all total disrepair and did not appear to have been moved for a long time.”
Bold added for emphasis.


You Tea Party types are simply dumb asses that can't put two and two together! As CJ7 says, it is actually more fun to laugh at your silly, baseless positions!

Even when you know the truth and are shown proof of it, the racist hate for Obama continues to solidify your baseless positions!
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:14 AM   #39
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Stevie, you didn't explain how that chart wasn't bullshit. But it was a nice rant with no point, I'll give you that.

And really, disagreeing with Obama does not make a person a racist. Only in your own little mind does that occur.

Nice to have you back!
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #40
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I suspect the Russians are getting a good laugh out of all of this, since they were the ones that helped Sadam usher all of his WMD's into Syria.

I still long for the good old days when Sadam and his two fine Sons were in charge.
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Even Olivia recognizes and states that Bush ordered the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq so he could start the war even though Saddam had agreed to allow resumption of the inspections before the deadline.


Hey now! LOL, be nice. Remember, just because I'm not a leftie doesn't mean I'm a rightie.

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Even when you know the truth and are shown proof of it, the racist hate for Obama continues to solidify your baseless positions!
And the beat goes on. No, not everyone that dislikes Obama is a racist. I'm so sick to death of race cardists!

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Truer words...................
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:24 AM   #42
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Now we know why Louise (the Princess of Cut and Paste) doesn't write her own words. The liberal/media/democratic/protester position has always been (you can't really say always because they are always changing the goal posts but...) that there are NO chemical or nuclear weapons in Iraq. Hussein gave them all up after the first war.

I have presented several stories from sources other than Fox News that Saddam did indeed have chemcial weapons and equipment to create chemical weapons. We are also being treated to stories today that the Iraqi weapons made their way to Syria. It is about as obvious as a car coming your way at 60 mph. Some still don't want to see the obvious truth because of THEIR political position.

There were communists in the State Department in the 1940s and 1950s. The proof has been revealed; Nixon and McCarthy were right but I still run into those who deny the truth because it would undermine their politics.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:32 PM   #43
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Stevie, you didn't explain how that chart wasn't bullshit. But it was a nice rant with no point, I'll give you that.

And really, disagreeing with Obama does not make a person a racist. Only in your own little mind does that occur.

Nice to have you back!
I think the heat is going to his head
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I loved that guy, saw him at the Sands in Vegas in like '82. Funniest person I have ever seen...
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Like I have always said people will cling to their guns and religion and believe anything from any source to align those views.

People that believe in aliens read the Globe as their Bible.

Even G W Bush does not believe now that there were WMD's in Iraq. Not that he knows more than our resident righties! They know everything!
So you're getting on CBJ7's bandwagon of ignorance and claiming Saddam NEVER had WMD!?!


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It is a known fact Saddam used gas on the Kurds. Rove stated in his book it was of his opinion Bush would not have attact Iraq if he had known the truth about the WMDS. But what does he know compared to IB and JD????
Read closer you idiot. CBJ7 stupidly posted there NEVER were WMD in Iraq. You just agreed that there were.


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Exactly, ekim!

This all goes together in showing that the Teapublicans will believe anything FAUX says. Not only is Obama's spending not the most prolific among modern presidents but the CHEMICAL Weapons Saddam had were ANCIENT and not being developed by Iraq as you mention.

Even Olivia recognizes and states that Bush ordered the weapons inspectors to leave Iraq so he could start the war even though Saddam had agreed to allow resumption of the inspections before the deadline.

Hussein (as our ally against the Iranians) was SUPPLIED with Sarin Gas Artillery shells by the U.S. over a decade before "Iraqi Freedom"!

That is also why one of J.D. Bullcorn's quotes talks about "UNEARTHING OLD ROUNDS" as in artillery rounds used to shell the Iranians during that war. It is also why we found very little evidence of the gas in those buried shells. They were over a decade old and the fucking gas had all leaked out of the cannisters in the shells.

Here is a direct quote from one of Bullcorn's links. Warning: please take the use of the term "WMD" with the proverbial grain of salt. Somehow artillery shells with all the Sarin gas leaked out and buried in the desert for over a decade are not "WMD'S" in the minds of anyone but FAUX and Teapublicans who are grasping for straws.


From a Bullcorn link in the Atlantic:
"Even late in the war, WMDs were still being unearthed. In the summer of 2008, according to one WikiLeaked report, American troops found at least 10 rounds that tested positive for chemical agents. “These rounds were most likely left over from the [Saddam]-era regime. Based on location, these rounds may be an AQI [Al Qaeda in Iraq] cache. However, the rounds were all total disrepair and did not appear to have been moved for a long time.”
Bold added for emphasis.


You Tea Party types are simply dumb asses that can't put two and two together! As CJ7 says, it is actually more fun to laugh at your silly, baseless positions!

Even when you know the truth and are shown proof of it, the racist hate for Obama continues to solidify your baseless positions!
Hey dumb ass, Little Blind Boy, you and Ekim both just admitted Saddam did have WMD; whereas, your boy-toy, CBJ7, said Saddam NEVER had WMD.
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