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Old 07-21-2012, 06:41 PM   #16
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Don't think many people comprehend on what's unfolding!
Just trying to look out and warn as many people as possible.
I would think that people would want to know so they could try to protect themselves.
If I would have posted something like a football player and how much they make that would have been cool? But tell me. How does that effect you? I could care less myself. You don't see me responding with mindless jokes about issues that really don't matter. So why respond like a child?
The problem is that most are apathetic unless the issue involves a celebrity or is plastered over the evening news, The information is out there but in this age of immediate gratification most people tend to accept what is repeated on the news or by the local gossip channel.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:19 PM   #17
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I don't think it was the topics you chose, just the amount of posts perhaps....
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The Sandbox is a collection of "off-topic discussions". Humorous threads, Sports talk, and a "wide variety of other topics" can be found here. If it's NOT hobby-related, then you're in the right place!

Guess I thought I was in the right area.
No one is aguing. It's only a discussion. So why are you asking me to post somewhere else? I did not force anyone to read the information or lie.
Everything I posted is reality. Information that may help those who want it.
If you read the posts I'm not giving anyone financial advice because I don't have a license to do that anymore. I was only trying explain what I'm doing.
If someone disagrees fine I understand. I did not agree with the "SPX" long position that lost 38% of it's value in 2008. That's some really bad financial advice for those who know how to read and comprehend a chart. "IMHO" It's gained a few percent since then but everything is slowing down, again. The only thing that's keeping everything from crashing worse than 08' are the endless hopeless desperate tactics by the FED. "IMHO" Selling short paper to buy long paper has not and does not work. "Libor" The FED "IMHO" is only destroying the Bond Market everytime they Twist. Furthermore, easing is very inflationary and also has not and does not work. Guess that's why financial institutions around the world are very worried and issuing alerts about Hyperinflation of the dollar.
"IMHO" of course.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #18
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I don't think it was the topics you chose, just the amount of posts perhaps....
Yeah, maybe?
If someone does not agree or like my views about reality or think it's too much..... with all due respect, move along.
I'm only offering information along with solutions for those who cherish their freedom.

Today, 8/1/2012 - The Federal Reserve, Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) just announced they are keeping interest rates "Exceptionally Low" through late 2014.
Low interest rates, good for "Derivatives".
Remember the "Mortgage Backed Securities" that collapsed the housing market in 2008? Subprime? Still has not recovered.Housing Index
More to come! "Collateralize Debt Obligations" "Credit Default Swaps"
More "Wash Trades" and "High Frequency Trades"
The Algorithms have taken over! No need for the people trading anymore.
The profits are private while the losses are handed down to the consumer. More taxes and more energy and food inflation.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:15 PM   #19
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Yeah, maybe?
If someone does not agree or like my views about reality or think it's too much..... with all due respect, move along.
I'm only offering information along with solutions for those who cherish their freedom.

Today, 8/1/2012 - The Federal Reserve, Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) just announced they are keeping interest rates "Exceptionally Low" through late 2014.
Low interest rates, good for "Derivatives".
Remember the "Mortgage Backed Securities" that collapsed the housing market in 2008? Subprime? Still has not recovered.Housing Index
More to come! "Collateralize Debt Obligations" "Credit Default Swaps"
More "Wash Trades" and "High Frequency Trades"
The Algorithms have taken over! No need for the people trading anymore.
The profits are private while the losses are handed down to the consumer. More taxes and more energy and food inflation.
Speak of the Devil... This just reported.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48443271

Latest Market Glitch Shows 'Trading Out of Control'
Published: Wednesday, 1 Aug 2012 | 3:52 PM ET Text Size
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Wednesday morning's stock snafu had a familiar ring to it — mysterious volume in trades that simply could not have been made by a human comes surging out of nowhere, causing brief but acute market mayhem.


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By now, many players on trading floors have gotten used to the disruptions that can come from the highly automated new world of high-frequency trading.

But that doesn't mean they like it.

"This algorithmic trading is kind of out of control," Phil Silverman, managing partner at Kingsview Capital, said as officials at the New York Stock Exchange tried to make sense of what happened. "It seriously hurts investor confidence."

By mid-afternoon, no one still quite knew exactly why about 150 stocks experienced a blinding surge in market volume, causing momentary disruptions in the prices of nine Dow components and a slew of others across various categories.

The NYSE said in the afternoon that it would cancel trades in six different stocks affected by the glitch, including Wizzard Software, China Cord Blood, E-House Holdings, American Reprographics and Quicksilver Resources. Trades executed at 30 percent higher or lower than the opening price will be canceled, the NYSE said.

Nearly 40 issues spiked more than 10 percent between the lows and highs, although prices of most of these issues stabilized in afternoon trading. Following are the 10 issues that gyrated the most in terms of percentage change between the day's low and the day's high price — Wizzard Software, China Cord Blood, E House, American Reprographics, Rare Element, Navidea Biopharm, Almaden Minerals, Quicksilver, Radioshack and Nordic American Tanker. Some of these shares trade on NYSE MKT, formerly NYSE Amex.

Authorities involved in reviewing the matter said Knight Capital, a trading outfit that employs algorithms used in high-frequency trading, said it experienced "technology issues" with its market-making procedures.


Ultimately, the broader market reacted little to the disruption, which was limited by circuit breakers and mechanisms at the NYSE to help contain the damage of HFT mistakes.


Traders, though, have grown weary of the problems and say the high-speed environment has changed the market in a bad way.

"When markets would have a big move, when things were really crazy, I would go out into the street and talk to people and they knew. Now, you get these big moves and people just don't care anymore," Silverman says. "They don't want to be a part of it, the high-frequency thing. The algorithmic situation needs to be looked at. We need to understand it better."

Firms create algorithms to buy and sell stocks according to formulas and market conditions. The high-speed robots trade with each other, seeking in transactions that can take microseconds to capitalize sometimes on fractions of a penny in stock moves.

While proponents say the rapid trading helps create liquidity and price discovery, regular investors have been fleeing the market, in part due to macro worries and in part because they don't feel they can compete in the automated trading world.

Dave Lutz, the managing director of U.S. trading at Stifel Nicolaus in Baltimore, cautions investors not to over-react to events like the Knight mistake.

"A lot of people seem to think it was human error. At the end of the day it wasn't necessarily a failure of systems," he said. "It's not a reason for people to lose confidence in the markets."

Still, had a human presence been involved somebody at least could have flagged the Knight trades as improper and perhaps stopped them before they hit the market.

But Lutz counters that the mistake was nowhere on par with the May 6, 2010 Flash Crash, where an error caused the Dow to lose nearly 1,000 points in a few minutes, or any of the other recent trading fiascoes.

"On the surface, it doesn't seem like it's any of that," he said. "It seems like it was simple human errors, and that's been happening since they've been trading underneath the maple tree."
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