Bro's before Ho's.... Right? Look the other way and cut a brother some slack? Or?

[sixxbach]

ooops messed up my response

[Guest021824]

Bad situation all around. Since you brought this to the board. It would be best to give a heads up here to providers to avoid this person. There is enough drama out there, so if someone can give a heads up..........then do so!....IMHO

[ztonk]

An important reminder to never lose sight of the pay-for-play dynamic... No matter how much you might think it's something else this time around...

That should be rule #2.

Rule #1 is not to pay until you play...

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by Whispers

I make it a common practice of clarifying how much I know about a guy before I make an introduction. I provide as much information about a lady when I talk to the guy as I can.

B was with C eating with A who was trying to arrange for some time with one or both of them when B called me.... Wanting me to come meet her and C.... While they were also eating with A or afterwards?

They dump A and head off....Did they ask you how to dump A, if they should or did they indicate they wanted to dump him and needed your help to do so? More info on that conversation is needed to answer later questions.

Later the next night I get blasted by B.....

We finally talk it out this morning......

She tells He's got "proof" of everything I have said to him or shown him regarding her......I tell her everything I know and tell her to tell him to present whatever proof he has.....

She doesn't know who to believe so I answer every question she has... we talk through everything and stay friends....

We get together when SHE wants to.... and she is in total control of when she interacts with me.....

I ask her to sit back and think about why I would have any motivation to be dihonest with her vs a guy chasing her down a highway honking at her that won't leave her alone in a public place when she obviously is with other people and does not want to interact with him....

I also know that he can't be trusted to say anything to (He can't and YOU are answering EVERYTHING?).... to share information with....... as he seems to have repeated every word that came out of my mouth to her.... (So you didn't tell her everything but only what was asked of you like giving legal testimony with yes and no answers? I'm trying to understand the apparent diversity of the meaning of "everything" as it applies to giving out information to Ho's vs. Bro's.) At one point the other night I asked him (two phones on the table in front of me - just a thought - Hobby/Personal?) if he was recording what we were talking about....... Maybe at that time I should have recognized the warning bells in my head.... could it be Tinnitus?

I reassured him that I always put a buddy above a lady as it is much harder to build relationships with a good guy than it is to find a new lady to take my money.... I thought he was the kind of guy that could respect that but I was obviously very wrong....At exactly what part of the secret handshake does the "Bro's before Ho's" bonding officially happen since this bond was, at one time, within your definition of "Bro Status"?

Do you think it is enough for me to simply no longer respond to him or provide him information or should behavior like this be "outed"? It is not up to you to OUT anybody. Simply refrain from recommending him or ask a mod to intervene if it seems to be a situation that requires outside intervention. I would think THAT decision should be in the hands of the supposed "stalkee". The fact that you don't trust him is largely your decision based on your situation.

Guys do you want to know if your sitting at a table with or sharing information with someone that will present "proof" to some lady he is obsessed with of what you say and do? So let me get this straight. You would answer EVERY one of HER questions and NEVER lie to a BRO. The appearance of false information can be easily accomplished by withholding information. The necessity to give false information may never arise when conveying only parcels of information you know will illicit a certain response. However, you said you told her everything indicating there was no absence of information.

Ladies, Do you feel the behavior as described constitutes any kind of risk to you? He is a member of this community. The description is seems incomplete to me and represents your own take and while it may represent risky behavior. it may not. Perhaps the lady would be the best judge.

Originally Posted by karmaofaustin

it's not that hard. Follow your own moral compass, if you have one. Good answer.

Originally Posted by Whispers

Well.....

1) Ladies DO screen and make their own decisions....OK
2) He has seen and reviewed ladies in this community and professionals do have the ability to better "detach" after a session than the avg stripper might have.... Really? I'm interested in what is said below.
3) There appears to be no visible alerts or negative information on him at the moment....I'm sure he's glad you shared that with all of us. Would that be in the ladies sections, too, since there are no alerts on the alert forum? And like all private female areas on discussions boards, would revealing that info be a breach of etiquette or even rules that carry with them penalties such as banning in some forums?
4) he is a P411 member All the more reason to handle it without trying it in the court of public opinion based on one side of the story. (I take it the stripper is not an Eccie member and the hobbyist may now never come forward after seeing all this.).
5) I asked around BEFORE I introduced him to the lady as she IS someone I know and I would not want to put her in the company of someone unstable.... I was told there was no negative info anywhere about him..... I missed getting an invitation to be a part of the hobby police posse. I think I remember the posse firing a few shots at me in the past but hey, that's all water under the Congress Avenue Bridge, bat guano and all.

One line of thinking is that this is not a typical reaction he might have interacting with a provider who ends her involvement typically at the end of an hour..... Agree - hence my take that the public flogging should have waited.

Strippers tend to spend more time with guys and befriend them much more often than providers so he may never present a potential problem for a lady here. Gallup and Zogby had better move over. My polls say many are cut from the same cloth and that the illusion of passion may trump the time factor and even RAISE the possibility.

Lonely guys love attention and I think she gave him a bit too much and let herself get in a bit too deep..... Despite what you may think, these situations occur on a daily basis and are somehow resolved all over "Hobbyland" without our having to have a self-appointed Judge Roy Bean or some hobby jury in every forum.

And why ask the question? Not necessarily for validation....

maybe for the discussion that ensues and the impact it might have on him.... maybe it will wake his ass up to what he is behaving like..... Kind of like Group Therapy?.... Put the shoe on the other foot and look at any number of other behaviors you may exhibit and ask yourself the group therapy question.

Maybe I am wrong in being concerned about it.... Read 1-5 above.... I want to think the best of a guy..... But.....


But honestly..... I'm fucking pissed and my first reaction is to fry him (then I KNOW you'll want to FRY ME for playing Devil's advocate even though my questions and comments are genuine and worth contemplating, won't you?) but I find that often I get better advice from others that have dealt with similar situations....

Not the kind of questions I can ask elsewhere now are they?

A gazillion guys go to strip clubs every day and thousands of 45ish fat, bald guys may think they are "connecting" with thousands of hot 20-somethings but most realize they are not.

Can you believe that some of these guys actually go online and try to find out where the girl has gone after she left the club where they met and quit returning his phone calls? It is her right not to see him and it is probably still his right to try to see her at a club as long as he doesn't stalk her (there are legal terms that define stalking.).

All I should have offered was an encouraging "AMEN" to the masterful brevity and content of the post below but then the idiots would have been passed over and they deserve educating, too.

Originally Posted by cpi3000

Sounds to me as if the OP is a narcissist and wants the rest of us to know he is super cool and despite whatever crazies he might have lunch with, he is and will always be the man with his ladies.

[dearhunter]

Introduce me to them bitches.........I'm just saying.