Elves

[Jacquie]

Originally Posted by patron76

You're "just sayin" that you are not a "hot bodied" woman. But Santa Does have a few Elves that ARE Hot Bodied women therefore they will have no trouble finding work in Vegas. Have you been with any of these women? How do you know whats going on behind closed doors? You dont. Therefore, you stating that it is a bad idea is that exactly, your idea. I am quite sure what your point is here besides bashing the Elves....but i am sure they will all be fine with or without your advertising input.

Excuse me, judging from your post, you lack some crucial reading comprehension skills.


I do know how providing works being that I am a provider who enjoys providing for the kink. I don't have to fuck one of those girls to know the game. There isn't more money when there's more competition, that has to be the dumbest logic ever. I absolutely agree with Under the Radar here in everything he's referencing. That is absolutely all I was stating. I wasn't dissing those women; I don't even know what they look like. I never look at other provider's ads, unless they're in co-ed discussion, because I don't care that much. I still get more than enough requests to satisfy my providing desires, thank you very much. Believe it or not, there's a market for size 4's-size 8's as there is for 00's-3's, as well as plus sizes too. It may not be your taste, but to turn it around on you, that's because it's yours.

Also, I said "hard bodied," not "hot bodied." I'm not hard bodied, simple as that; I don't need to defend my weight or appearance, because I'm comfortable in my own skin. I'm not a heavy women nor am I an anorexic bimbo. I've never advertised that... but I'm not homely in appearance either. I suggest you learn how to read and write before you open a debate with me or try to suggest that I am being rude to other providers. There's no need for that sort of thing here. It wouldn't increase my business, so why would I do that? The Elves are agency girls and barely legal, not in my market, so that would be a waste of time to taint their reputation in any sort of way. Just like they've done nothing to do it to me, why would I do something to them? That's also completely illogical.

[patron76]

Actually, I can read AND write just fine there sweetie. What you wrote is that you dont think it is a good Idea for santa to take these girls where competition is high. But, then again you said not all men want axorexic bimbos and not all men want big flopping tittys either. So, if you know all the men in Vegas your comments would seem logic to me.... but for some reason I dont think you do. Therefore, you have no idea what the men want or how well the elves would do with the clientele in Vegas. All Im saying Jaquie, is if you "dont care" like you said... why are we still discussing this. Good luck to you.

[Bababoeuy]

Why not have ECCIE start a whole new Forum entitled "THE ELVES" for the NOLA/BR section.
That way those men and women who have never seen them can bash them endlessly and those who actually have been with them one or more times can express how much they enjoyed their visit.
Makes sense to me. We could replace Sandbox with "The Elves".

[UNDER THE RADAR]

Wouldnt that make Mufdvr/Santas day to have a topic board dedicated to the lovers and haters of the Elves what free publicity.Originally I just generalized and responded to the question asked in this thread. Then you get people commenting about the obvious and two you this and that. They are not expliced about who they are talking, and I definitely do not want to come off as some off the wall flake, so I re commented concerning the logic used in my assumption. I could care less one way or the other if the elves are touring, and if they are I hope they do well. Generally I believe they are all good looking girls and all with the exception of Daria recently seem to consistently give good service. I have personally been all over the world and have seen escorts from 47 different states and 15 different countries including Amsterdam, Hong Kong, and Brazil. The only elf in my opinion that I have been with that could market herself successfully in the Las Vegas market would be Kade if she had a professional photographer do her photos, and she maintained her personality and service. Daria is a possibility, I have not been with her, she is petty, but in my opinion a little thin and no chest. Some guys like skinny flat chested girls, but thats just not my preference, but I do think all of the elves could get business in Vegas, but the Vegas market is very tricky and it takes certain connections along with genuine personal beauty to really be successful there consistantly

[Bababoeuy]

Originally Posted by Jacquie

Are they charging more in Vegas? I don't see how that would be possible as a working plan, seeing as how there is a lot more competition. Even a completely hard bodied, model-type woman (and I will never claim to be that nor do I aim to be that way) would have a difficult time attracting attention. IMO if you're traveling else where, it's best to go to a place where there isn't much competition in the body type and age range that you are. Not everyone likes spinners, just like not everyone likes bbws... and everything in between. That advertising ploy is quite transparent and a bit insulting to these dawgs. I mean, most of the ones I've met are quite capable of figuring things like that out, I'm just sayin'.

Las Vegas is one of the most expensive cities for hobbying. It's very true there are a lot of ladies there. They estimate that for Super Bowl weekend as many as 20,000 escorts show up. On the flip side there are A LOT more drunken men in Vegas with dollars in their pockets looking to have a good time. Therefore the prices are a lot higher.

I was there a few months ago, called an agency and they sent over a "6" to my room that wanted $700 just to get started! I kicked her ass out so fast.
The bar girls, also known as "free lancers" range in looks from 7's to solid 10's.
Their prices start at a grand. You can negotiate them down to $500 or $600 if your good at it. If you negotiate too low you will receive lousy rushed service. (under $500 her bra isnt even coming off)

BP isnt even the place where they should be advertising anyway. Most hookups are made in the casino bars. The Rio has Shutters Bar. Mandalay has the Island Bar. MGM has the Rouge Bar. Planet Hollywood has the Pirate Bar and so on. Hundreds of working girls........and thousands and thousands of drunken men with cash in the pockets. They would be better off advertising in Cityvibe or Eros while they are in Sin City.

[VeronicaMoore]

Even if you were to give Santa and his 50 handles their own "Elves" forum, he still would still threads about them everywhere else too. *just in case* someone might have missed even the teeniest-tiniest modicum of the glorious ~*drama*~ LOL

I mean, do y'all think a man with that many superfluous handles really gives a damn about following the rules? haha

[UNDER THE RADAR]

Vegas is just like any tourist town you go to. It depends greatly on the casinos you go as to how much they charge, and believe it or not there is still a big organized crime element that controls alot of the prostiution in Vegas. In many casinos the girls are working for mob connected pimps, and alot have exclusive rights to work certain casino bars, just any girl off the street can not work the Belagio Lounge, many try and if they are found out they are escorted off the property. The only ones allowed to work certain lounges are the ones that are connected in. The marketers on the corner that hand out the escort cards are your best bet for cheeper thrills, solicitation in Vegas is illegal, the marketers in Vegas are how the pimps and providers get around the solicitation. Most of the time if you call a girl on a card they are working out of the low end hotels on and around the strip and you can get decent service pretty much condom covered for $175-300, and like any town if you know where to drive you can pick up your typical street walker for $50-100. I have been with several girls that toured through Vegas recently and they actually said things are tough over there right now with the housing market collapse and the economy.

[Jacquie]

Originally Posted by patron76

Actually, I can read AND write just fine there sweetie. What you wrote is that you dont think it is a good Idea for santa to take these girls where competition is high. But, then again you said not all men want axorexic bimbos and not all men want big flopping tittys either. So, if you know all the men in Vegas your comments would seem logic to me.... but for some reason I dont think you do. Therefore, you have no idea what the men want or how well the elves would do with the clientele in Vegas. All Im saying Jaquie, is if you "dont care" like you said... why are we still discussing this. Good luck to you.

Big floppy tits, eh? How would you know? You've never seen them. You are incredibly ignorant and obviously Santa. I wasn't talking smack about your gaggle of hookers, so chill out. Your reading comprehension skills are still very much lacking (There's a difference between being able to read and being able to understand it.) I already said, " Believe it or not, there's a market for size 4's-size 8's as there is for 00's-3's, as well as plus sizes too. It may not be your taste, but to turn it around on you, that's because it's yours." I don't have to be a mind reader to know that as Shakespeare put it "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I have at no point insulted your girls, unless you think calling them a "gaggle of hookers" is bad, but I would just as soon call myself a hooker-- it's what we do. By all means I wish all providers safety and success in their market, never would I diss another provider, unless she was Kaitlin Bree'ing it to me. But, I look down upon pimps and those who run escort services (minus Annie--to me she runs a referral service-- and to those of you old enough to remember Vinnie)... How much of that split are you getting again? They'll get a little older, figure out screening and advertising methods, and wise up to how unappealing that lifestyle is.

I exchange emails with enough providers around the country to have an idea of what the markets are like, when I have the time to tour. Based on the information I've collected, I can make assumptions about how my weeks might go in certain areas. I talk to girls with my body type as that seems most logical.

Overall, what I do care about is your rude comments about my appearance. In as nice and round about of a way as I can possibly say it, stfu with that noise. It makes you sound like an eleven year old girl. If it's my business that you're trying to taint, it's not happenin', bud. I'm not even trying to paint your pimp cup anything but gold. You're just very wrong here.

I still am agreeing completely with Under the Radar. The economy is shit out there. People are already living well beyond their means. To take a vacation and buy a thousand dollar whore is stretching the threads of an ill-fitting pair of pants; eventually, you're going to lose 'em to all that additional weight. When you treat your mortgage like its your only source of income, it will catch up to you. Duh. That's a completely logical point that I can agree with and stand behind, UTR.

[BIG C]

Can we just stick to the topic here and dispense with all the superfluous and insulting comments directed towards each other (specifically to Jacquie and patron76 and generally towards others in this thread).....If you won't do it on your own, then I'll do it for you.....Thanks.

[Thibodaux]

damnit! you banned The Truth before i could come back to say -

"The Truth is , Santa does not have a clue of how many elves Thibodaux has fucked."

the whole Vegas thing is nothing but a scam

elf biz must be good enough for each of his handles to keep purchasing PA access. at least i know he's still reading

bayou boy

[UNDER THE RADAR]

There might not be nothing to it, you know how rumors go, but someone told me that LE called each elf giving them a heads up stop or get busted, and actually played back for them recordings of phone calls they intercepted between the elves and dawgs setting up appointments, also they told each elf when they contacted them what hotel they were staying at and what room they were currently in, because they had them monitored. They did this supposedly Friday afternoon and Saturday morning, that may explain why dawgs were having trouble contacting the elves by cell phone late last week. LE supposedly told them come Monday morning if they see one more ad then all of them were going down. Supposedly B.R.P.D. was concerned about negitive public relations on the heal of the Lawrence Taylor issue in New York, because the girl was supposedly under age and pimped out. Like I said it might be a nothing rumor, but there are alot less backpage ads in Baton Rouge this week, so the elves may not be the only ones LE called. This may have been a issue for Alerts Section, but as I thought the possibility of just being a rumor, I did not want to throw a New Thread false alarm.

[AloneInVT]

anyone can tell me if their rates are different in vegas than back home?

[mtiger]

I see they are now in Vegas. They advertised on BP with phone #'s Wed.