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WTF · 06-11-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Of course; the sooner the better !

Preferably sometime this month; if not, then Day 1 of the Romney administration.

You want Obamacare to fail?

Not think it will fail but actually want it to fail?

Be like the half The twelve apostles/disciples hoping Jesus couldn't turn water into wine! Makes no sense to me.

We all can understand doubting it happen...but to hope nobody gets free wine and fish is selfish.

WTF · 06-11-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I am not on Team Obama and Obama isn't on Team Whirlaway. Where do you get that "we are all on the same team BS?"

Obama doesn't believe that BS. Obama doesn't play by the Team Rules (whatever those are). You are living in fantasy world my friend.

Nobody could accuse me of being on team Bush but after he became President, nobody could accuse me of hoping he would fail.

When he won the Presidency, I became part of his team. I wished him the best.

You Tea Nuts need to get your priorities straight.

Whirlaway · 06-11-2012, 05:33 PM

So, you wish Obama is successful in leading us to a single payer healthcare system?

You wish Obama is successful in expanding the influence of big government in our lives?

You wish Obama is successful in getting his 3rd stimulus package?

You wish Obama is successful in getting his debt busting 2013 budget? The same budget that no democrats could stomach?

You wish Obama get's another appointment to SCOTUS (becuase you know he wishes he does)?

You wish Obama gets his way with curtailing the 2nd Ammendment?

You wish Obama gets his CAP N Trade legislation passed?

You wish Obama achieves all of his EPA regulatory goals?

CuteOldGuy · 06-11-2012, 05:39 PM

I want Obama to fail. He wants to turn this country into a socialist police state. If GM and Chrysler made bad business decisions, they should go under, or file Chapter 11, the same as non-union dominated companies.

Of course I wanted Seal Team Six to succeed, that is, not get killed in a stupid action. I also wanted our invasion in Iraq to succeed, that is, our servicemen and women not get killed in an illegal, stupid, ill-advised war.

The President (and the Congress)? I hope they both fail. If they win, freedom loses.

WTF · 06-11-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

You wish Obama is successful in getting his 3rd stimulus package?

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You can not be this foolish...

Let me just take one of your examples.

I do not wish for a third stimulus package but if one is passed I do not wish for it to fail.

Do you understand the difference?

Obamacare has passed. I may not think it is great but I hope I am wrong and it is. I do not wish for its failure after it is passed.

You and the Tea Nuts are confusing opposing something beforehand vs hoping something something fails for your own political gain after the fact.

That is wtf I think is wrong with you Tea Nuts. You do not put the country first. You put your party needs. Your party needs Obamacare to fail.

WTF · 06-11-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I want Obama to fail. He wants to turn this country into a socialist police state. If GM and Chrysler made bad business decisions, they should go under, or file Chapter 11, the same as non-union dominated companies.

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But what if you are wrong...that is why you wish for failure. You do not want to be wrong. If we have healthcare for more and GM does great....is that so bad?

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Of course I wanted Seal Team Six to succeed, that is, not get killed in a stupid action. I also wanted our invasion in Iraq to succeed, that is, our servicemen and women not get killed in an illegal, stupid, ill-advised war.

The President (and the Congress)? I hope they both fail. If they win, freedom loses.

You sound like some Virgin that wants to be a Hooker but stay a Virgin.

Either the action succeed or they don't. You can't have it both ways. What, do you want our military to win a war and no innocents get killed on either side?

CJ7 · 06-11-2012, 05:53 PM

COF has nothing to worry about ... the far right fringe groups will never get control of the country

Whirlaway · 06-11-2012, 05:54 PM

WTF's philosphy of Government:

"Once it is law, it can't be changed, tough shit Americans ! And to think otherwise is anti-American"

CuteOldGuy · 06-11-2012, 05:58 PM

Obamacare is an affront to liberty. And bailing out unions when Chapter 11 is a fine remedy is political patronage, also an affront to liberty. Yes. I hope Obama fails. Big time. I want Liberty to win.

Whirlaway · 06-11-2012, 05:59 PM

Or if WTF was living in Colonial America:

"Can't Wish For Independence From Mother England, That Would be Wishing For The King's Failure Afterall, Wouldn't Be Cricket. Gotta Wish For The Tea Tax To Succeed You Know, We Are All Part of Team George"

CJ7 · 06-11-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Or if WTF was living in Colonial America:

"Can't Wish For Independence From Mother England, That Would be Wishing For The King's Failure Afterall, Wouldn't Be Cricket. Gotta Wish For The Tea Tax To Succeed You Know, We Are All Part of Team George"

COF never made it out of Colonial America

CuteOldGuy · 06-11-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ7

COF has nothing to worry about ... the far right fringe groups will never get control of the country

You mean the people that want the Constitution respected and freedom restored?

WTF · 06-11-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

WTF's philosphy of Government:

"Once it is law, it can't be changed, tough shit Americans ! And to think otherwise is anti-American"

You are talking about two different things.

Let's go with the War analogy.

I was not for the Iraq War. . I wished Bush had failed in convincing Amercians we needed to go to war. Once it was started, I did not wish it would fail If I did so , would you consider me patrotic? Now I consider my patrotic duty to try and get us out of there as soon as possible. Just as you hope we can get out from under Obamacre but to wish it to fail ....to wish that more Amercians will not have healthcare is idiotic to me.

That is how idiotic you and COG sound on wishing more healthcare for more Americans. You hope that fails. THat is idiotic. If you say you think it will fail, that is one thing but to hope or undermine seems as unpatrotic as undermining the Iraq War.

Once we commit, I would think you would hope for success.

CJ7 · 06-11-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You mean the people that want the Constitution respected and freedom restored?

restored to what ?

WTF · 06-11-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You mean the people that want the Constitution respected and freedom restored?

You mean the Amercian Taliban?

Look , I will hope Mitt's Fascist polices succeed if he is elected and enacted. I hope we don't have to bail out the bankers again and again. I hope coperate welfare does not rule the day.