i not sure how to pick

[katkisses2000]

wow ok i didnt mean for this to sound like a dbl posting i just wanted to know how each woman started with rates and how they came to pick the rate they were happy with.This posting isnt for what should MY personal rate should be,and i am sorry if it came across like that.maybe i have misworded the posting.I just see woman with all varies of rates i just wasnt sure how some think that vis VRS that in picking rates.i just wanted to know how each diffent provider picked the rate they were ok with didnt mean for this to turn into a battle of the tits so to speak.

[MsElena]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

Oh, bullshit. If she wants a venue where her self esteeem is supported, all women are equally beautiful, and everything is the fault of the bad old men, watch the fucking Oprah show. The OP asked for real world advice, and this is the real world.

Staci looks like she was created in some sort of an erection testing facility. Kat, not so much. That's life, that's reality, and no amount of girl-power support is gonna change that. Frankly, we'd all be better off if we just spoke the truth to each other. She may be a perfectly delightful person to be around, but to deny that looks play a role in this hobby is to deny reality itself.

You just don't get it.

Its not what you say, its how you say it. Its called tact.


Just because you don't find a lady attractive, doesn't mean you need to be rude to her about her looks. I'm sure others find her attractive. There's a jack for every jill out there.

You speak of telling the truth. That's great and more people need to do so, but again its how you go about saying it.

[katkisses2000]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

Oh, bullshit. If she wants a venue where her self esteeem is supported, all women are equally beautiful, and everything is the fault of the bad old men, watch the fucking Oprah show. The OP asked for real world advice, and this is the real world.

Staci looks like she was created in some sort of an erection testing facility. Kat, not so much. That's life, that's reality, and no amount of girl-power support is gonna change that. Frankly, we'd all be better off if we just spoke the truth to each other. She may be a perfectly delightful person to be around, but to deny that looks play a role in this hobby is to deny reality itself.

ok after reading some very not so nice things stiff drink and shower.

[KCQuestor]

Price is the aspect of your business that is easiest to change. Here's a suggestion:

If you are getting booked full and still have people asking for your time, raise your rate.
If you aren't getting enough business, lower your rate.

There are other things you can do besides lowering your rate. Targeted marketing, better advertising, changing what you offer, all can increase your customer base. But your price is the easiest the manipulate.

[katkisses2000]

ok I have changed rates now i should have something for everyone.yet this wasnt what this post was about i was just wanting to get a back story on who men pick high or low rate woman and what woman put rates so low they leave themselves in a bargin bin.

[simplyme]

Originally Posted by katkisses2000

ok I have changed rates now i should have something for everyone.yet this wasnt what this post was about i was just wanting to get a back story on who men pick high or low rate woman and what woman put rates so low they leave themselves in a bargin bin.

Numerous reasons Kat. The big two are when I look at her does some sort of complex chemical reaction occur in my body and is my wallet big enough. I have seen some reviews and pictures on some high dollar women an I'm think WTF that wasn't worth it to me, but it was to them (at least that's what they would say). I have also seen some "low rate" women who I never told them but I would have paid twice that, but instead I just saw them twice as much In the final analysis you have posed an unanswerable question.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by MsElena

Seriously, you had to go there? You owe her an apology. No need whatsoever to say that crap.

One again Ms Elena just jumps in to say "Hi everyone, MsElena is here again with something to say without thinking about what she is saying"

Think about what you are saying, and quit shooting from the hip!

Look at the two showcases: Stacy Stacked has some picture with wonderful smiles. She gives the immediate impression of being a nice lady would welcome a visit from a gentleman.

The other lady has a showcase with no smiles at all. Gee wizz; if this business is the pain that it shows to be in her pictures, then don't do it. No one wants to go visit someone with a frown. This has been discussed in other eccie threads, and the advice has already been given and ignored.

Get some new pictures!

Being big has nothing to do with it, being a beauty queen has nothing to do with it. Being a beauty queen has nothing to do with it. Having a frown turns away business faster than a speeding bullet. Don't some of you girls get it. Whether you are female or male, the face can communicate with out a word. The frown says "stay away from me, I am nothing but trouble".

Furthermore, most men have seen enough of the fake smiles to know the difference from a sincere smile.

The French say, 'Les yeux sont le miroir de l'dme (The eyes are the mirror of the soul).

JR

[MsElena]

JR,

Oh shut up. This board is for EVERYONE TO JUMP IN and add their opinion, not just the holier than thou.

You obviously have a problem with me and once again you choose to single me out when there were other people who said the same damn thing as me.

He insulted her and I wasn't the only one who thought so. So you better go scold them too or are you afraid of scolding a man and just scold women who you think you can "bully" around?

I'll be looking for your scolding post of Malwoody, Allie, and Dirty Dog.

[Allie_Kat]

JR, there is also a thread about being civil. Did you read that one too? Is it so hard to not be rude & say things that are obviously hurtful to someone? A little tact can go a long way. The way things are worded make a huge difference. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but sometimes I think people type things that they otherwise would never say to someone in person. If we would not verbalize it to someone, maybe we shouldn't write it either...

[sasnaK]

Wow I just love this stuff ,First off some of my best experiences have been with larger gals, there usually not nearly as judgemental, they tend to go out of there way and they are very real. I'm a guy who has lost a lot of weight and have been on that side off the fence and understand exactly what it like to deal with daily.I tend to see both small and large Ladies based on reviews..its funny but lately most of the recent reviews that were outstanding have not been the Victoria Secrets types. Its the attitude, the EFFORT ,hygiene, the ease of the appointment and the value. Money is tight and value is a priority...lately girls with 1/2 hr rates with good reviews have been on my radar cause it allows me more frequency....I think Ladies who run an occasional special will probably pick up a few more reg visits if it go's well.Just make it clear when it starts and when it ends and its not your reg rate. Bottom line its a business and its up to the provider period...if business is off , or suddenly the market is flooded with new competition or there running special's....Well if you can afford to sit it out..sit it out..if not compete....Great reviews will bring more business..you gotta get them in the door to get the reviews....There are a few gals over the past 12 months who seem to be doing well and have actually raised there rates...and I could name a few who appear to be struggling based on crappy review's....Goodluck luck.... be safe.

[Kshunter]

Question - for all you white knights who have jumped in and defended Kat Kisses' honor against bad ol' me, how many of you will be putting your money where your mouth is and getting one of those $200 (or $300, or whatever) sessions from her?

Answer - not a fuckin' one of you.

The ultimate irony here is that I am probably the most likely client for her, because I have, and do, see BBW's and even SSBBW's on occasion. I enumerated the reasons Kat hasn't been included in that in the first post. If her rates and 'hassle factor' were more in line with other providers like her, I'd have probably seen her by now, and spent actual money instead of bandwidth.

And yet, I'm the bad guy. I love this place.

[The Sixth Beatle]

What's an SSBBW? Just askin'!

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

Question - for all you white knights who have jumped in and defended Kat Kisses' honor against bad ol' me, how many of you will be putting your money where your mouth is and getting one of those $200 (or $300, or whatever) sessions from her?

Answer - not a fuckin' one of you.

The ultimate irony here is that I am probably the most likely client for her, because I have, and do, see BBW's and even SSBBW's on occasion. I enumerated the reasons Kat hasn't been included in that in the first post. If her rates and 'hassle factor' were more in line with other providers like her, I'd have probably seen her by now, and spent actual money instead of bandwidth.

And yet, I'm the bad guy. I love this place.

Think what you want, spend your coin however you want. You want to discuss your impression of someone's appearence in private or in a locker room go for it. This is an open forum and if you want to drag your opinion about someone's appearence in it, by all means go for it, but when what your post is imho bordering on a personal attack and at the very least insensitive, I don't think you can expect not to be critisized. It's got nothing to do with white knight and everything to do with human decency. Why do you want to hurt someone's feelings?

I've got to give Kat credit, she has kept her cool and not gotten into a flame, so maybe it's time to just let it go.

Have a nice evening

[Guest092813]

Originally Posted by katkisses2000

ok I have changed rates now i should have something for everyone.yet this wasnt what this post was about i was just wanting to get a back story on who men pick high or low rate woman and what woman put rates so low they leave themselves in a bargin bin.

Just wondering how low do you consider bargain bin?
I, for one, am on the lower end of the donation scale, but it works for me. I don't think using insulting remarks like bargain bin makes you look very good.
If what your doing or not doing isn't working try finding something that will. Whether it be your rates or finding a special niche.

Jmo
Grace

[apack77]

everyone always like to get a good deal. and of course they wouldn't go with it if they didn't feel they were. i know i personally am a sucker for a special! and if you do things right, you just got a customer for life.