Curious about Providers' Review List...

[Mokoa]

Originally Posted by Mokoa

Quite right, Molly; and we do allow both sides to be heard.

Originally Posted by Miss Molly

You disagree? Please elaborate.

[gooose]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Molly


You disagree? Please elaborate.

I kinda agree with MM on this one. Hard to rebut something written in the ROS section if you have no access to it and thus unaware of what is being written about you unless you get illegal access or illegal second hand info from a WK.

[Guest071711]

Originally Posted by Mokoa

You disagree? Please elaborate.

What Goose said. It's impossible to tell our side of the story if for example a No reccomendation on a review; we just see activities but not ROS so we wouldnt know why the No and we cant give our side............

[Mokoa]

It is not impossible to get both sides of the story provided the hobbyist posts about his experience in a thread in the Coed forum.

If he posts a review then it will be more difficult and moving the review to the Coed forum will not help because the ROS section will still only be visible to members with Premium Access. Also, if you dispute a review posted about you wouldn't you already know the whole story since you were there?

You can always give your side of the story by starting a thread in the Coed forum.

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by Miss Molly

Just keep in mind theres always 2 sides to a story. Its that simple folks

Yeah-if only us ladies could write reviews lol

[Bibi Joy]

Ok so I am totally confused here yet lets put it like this:

Lets say Mokoa has a business and his business sells by wearing all black>>

Mokoa works his sweet little ass off to please all his clients with wearing black>>>

He gets all these great reviews with YES YES YES AND HELL YES>>

And then BAM Mokoa gets a review than may say NO or YES but Im gonna write something mean BCD>>>

He has no idea why the client would even say no I mean he wore black just as he did with the rest of his clients>>>

All of sudden no more emails or PMs wanting to see poor Mokoa>>

All along the mean spirited client wrote in bcd brackets

{BCD} Mokoa wore all white and turned me off{BCD}


Since Mokoa has no clue what was said and unless he does illegal acts like have some kind of WK which in this case a BKor maybe illegal access or even read it on a hate site....

So since Mokoa cant legally see what was said his business goes down the toilet>>>

Hmm interesting dont lla thank....

In my own opinion as long as providers dont have acces to read what is said about her BCD more and more providers will keep going away>>>

It not only hurts a providers business it hurts there feelings as well>>>

[Mokoa]

Interesting analogy.

I realize that by knowing what was written about them in reviews the ladies would be able to use the criticism for what it is. However, so far the reality of it has been that when a lady finds out about what was written about her in the ROS section of a review the result has usually been disastrous. Rebuttal threads are started in the Coed forum and usually they wind up turning into pissing matches and in the end the whole process winds up benefiting no one.

[Bibi Joy]

Perhaps because usually the meanspirited comment turns out being a bullshit lie. Perhaps he had an alterior motive to keep the provider from having more business. So many reasons go behind a meanspirited comment. But as many have already pointed out theres no way to rebutel what you cant read. And bless your heart and feelings if you find out legally or illegally....keep your legs open and your mouth full of cum...enough we have an alert section full of physical violence perhaps there should be one for written violation

[Chuck12]

Ok there are a few subjects going on in this thread. First the NC/NS deal, i suggested based on another thread on this, opening a separate forum where NC/NS thread could be opened for posting by both providers and hobbyists alike. That way the other side could give their story and avoid bashing in the co-ed or not letting a provider post her side in the review forum and it would also allow for easier search for NC/NS.

Now about the reviews. If you look at the reviews the great majority are "yes" recommendations, i think there are only a few "no" posted. The majority are positive about the providers and some guys go an extra step to not make it sound good by saying "well maybe she had a bad day" or "we did not click" etc.

I think part of the reason for keeping the ROS private is so guys can post an honest review without having any nasty PM's from the provider because they did not like how they wrote something about them, etc.

That said I don't see any problem with the provider being allowed to see her review, as long as it is for it to be taken as constructive criticism or to refute any false comments made, but not to make it open season on bashing because they did not like how something was described, etc.

Besides if one false review or "nasty comment" ruins the reputation of a provider than she did not have much a reputation before hand. For example i think there was an incident last year with someone writing a false review on Angelina. Enough people have seen her and she has a great rep that the review was taken care of. Besides us hobbyists are smarter than we look and can make our own decision whether to see a provider or not, and not base it on only one bad review, when all her other reviews are great.

[amoryb]

I've read a few of the recent NCNS reviews. A provider wouldn't need access to ROS to tell that the review states NCNS. It would be listed under Activities. So the argument that you can't defend yourself doesn't work here.

Personally, I would like to know if a provider has a habit of NCNS. I think most people would.

As for providers being able to read their own reviews, this greatly depends on the maturity of the provider. Some girls would be smart enough to take the review for what it is and learn from it. However, we've recently seen that some providers would get upset and throw a fit over and over.

Truth be told, you can't really blame them for this. Most people would react that way to a negative review, at least at first. People who feel they're being attacked naturally lash out. It's just human nature. This is probably why the owners set up the site this way.

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Guess my idea was a bad one. Oh well. LOL.


KKA

[shooter1a]

Not at all KA.
But you always have The Powder Room.
I am very careful of posting negative reviews because of the power of the Powder Room.
If I want to stay active in the Hobby I try to treat all providers with kindness. Yes. To them it is a business and to me a hobby but sometime one needs to go along to get along. Chuck is dead on. Read all the reviews not just a few. I become suspicious when a provider only has glowing reviews with no "no" recommends. We all have bad days. YMMV is basic chemistry. And as CK has pointed out, Sex is between the ears as well as between the legs.

[Willen]

Back to Bibi's analogy using Makoa. The best protection any provider has under the current system is having a batch of reviews. That reduces the influence of a bad review. Anyone can have an off day, or be victimized by a bum who dumps on you because you wouldn't to do something either off your menu or for a price below your stated rate. Sometimes the chemestry between two people is just bad. I did a review not so long ago of a very well regarded provider with whom I just didn't click. My bottom line was positive because the session was OK and because chemistry is beyond anyone's control. But I can see where someone might well employ a 'no' in such circumstances.

There are good reasons for keeping ROS restricted, but there's no denying it puts you ladies at a disadvantage. But a good body of work (as opposed to simply having a good body) will cause many of us to dismiss a single problematic review.

[sajay]

i'm a newbie granted but does it really work like that? you get "1" bad review and all your business is gone? no way 1 bad review would stop me from seeing someone.... Its like any other review isn't it? a TV, a guitar, an ebay rating, whatever... You can check the reviews and there will always be some asshole who hates the service or product no matter what you do...

Originally Posted by Bibi Joy

Ok so I am totally confused here yet lets put it like this:

Lets say Mokoa has a business and his business sells by wearing all black>>

Mokoa works his sweet little ass off to please all his clients with wearing black>>>

He gets all these great reviews with YES YES YES AND HELL YES>>

And then BAM Mokoa gets a review than may say NO or YES but Im gonna write something mean BCD>>>

He has no idea why the client would even say no I mean he wore black just as he did with the rest of his clients>>>

All of sudden no more emails or PMs wanting to see poor Mokoa>>

All along the mean spirited client wrote in bcd brackets

{BCD} Mokoa wore all white and turned me off{BCD}


Since Mokoa has no clue what was said and unless he does illegal acts like have some kind of WK which in this case a BKor maybe illegal access or even read it on a hate site....

So since Mokoa cant legally see what was said his business goes down the toilet>>>

Hmm interesting dont lla thank....

In my own opinion as long as providers dont have acces to read what is said about her BCD more and more providers will keep going away>>>

It not only hurts a providers business it hurts there feelings as well>>>

[Bibi Joy]

Yep this isnt ebay babe this is a cut throat kind of business. BUT I have found that the only way to beat the bad meanspirited comments>>>wether BCD or in public view is to keep getting good reviews>>

The smart ones in here will get that if and when any of the bad comments come along there usually from hobbiest that have never met me or any other provider BCD....And if they did there is usually a hidden agenda like perhaps they fell head over heels for her and she didnt respond>>>so many reasons

But yes its amazing how one bad comment can hurt your business and how hard you have to work to get your business back on track>>>>IT IS WHAT IT IS