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Old 03-22-2011, 02:32 PM   #1
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Exclamation Client Screening- New Tools

Hi Ladies!

I just received this newsletter and it has some great new information on screening clients. Just wanted to pass it on:



New Tricks to Screen A Potential Client


Dear VerifyHim reader,

You received this newsletter because you are recommended by one of our members to receive our quarterly newsletter. This newsletter is a review of what has been going inside the tech world and how we can use them in screening a client. This is our #2 newsletter since last year; I hope you guys will enjoy it just like the last one.

Taking pictures with a SmartPhone can reveal where you are located.

Have you ever heard of http://icanstalku.com/? It is the site that raising the awareness of the most Smartphone’s geotagging features. For some brilliant reasons,many smartphones encode the location of where pictures are taken. So anyone you send the pictures to can extract the location and lookup it up on Google Map. Many SmartPhone, including the popular Iphone, has this feature enabled by default. Scare yet?

The good thing is we can use this overlooked feature to track a client as well. Many providers request pictures of clients for screening and most of them are taken using a SmartPhone. I use this simple FireFox plugin http://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/exif-viewer/ whenever I need to check on a picture on the Internet. When you see a photo online or in your mail box in FireFox, try to view the photo in its natural size (right-click on the photo and choose ‘View image’). Now if you have the plugin installed, you can right click on the photo and select “view image exif data”. If there is any location data embedded inside the photo, the plugin will let you know and you can scroll down to view the results and link it to Google map. Once on google map, you can go to street view and check if the location is a house, a hotel or whatever can raise a red flag.

In another hand, if you send out impromptu pictures to a client, make sure the files don’t contain any location data. This feature is a stalker’s wet dream come true. You can go to the mentioned website to see for yourself; people upload their photos to Twitter and dangerously have their location revealed. Ever try to hunt down location of photos uploaded in BP ads?

The ICanStalkU site also tells you how to turn off this “advanced” feature on your phone, please do so to make sure you won’t accidently leak out your location. For old photos, you can try this free program http://www.geotagsecurity.com/ to remove the location information inside your photos. Next time when you receive pictures from clients or sending out ones, you know what to check. ;-)

Using email profile and social networking in verifying a client.

A little secret that many people don't know that Yahoo and Hotmail will leak out the date the email account was created. A newly created email is a sign of trouble. Scammers or the blue-man tend to create a newly email account and then go out to get us. In fact, our small research of the last 50 incidents has proved that most blacklisted emails are created within 4 months of the incidents. The report is available at our blog (please log in to read member-only posts) with a lot more details and useful advices from other members.

Yahoo profile can be viewed by using this trick: http://pulse.yahoo.com/yahoohandlehere. For example if the email is testme@yahoo.com then you can go to http://pulse.yahoo.com/testme to view the profile. Hotmail and social profiles at Facebook and other social networking sites are more tricky to pull data and require some programming tricks. You can use VerifyHim search engine to pull account data from many email and social networking sites. Please make sure that you check when the account was created and updated. A recent created account or an abandoned account is a sign of trouble.


IP tracking is too two-thousand and late. Use SmartForm to do machine tracking.

Talk to any tech-savvy providers and they will tell you all about IP, email header and readnotify.com. For those who don’t know, IP address is your internet address when you get online. It is similar to a phone number; it is used for other machines on the internet to communicate with you. With an IP address, you will know the generic location (like Boston, MA) and the domain/internet server the user is using (like Comcast or Le-le.gov). And Readnotify.com is an email tracking service that will reveal the IP address of a reader when the email is opened. A few experienced providers have been using readnotify.com or pointofmail.com (another email tracking service) for years. Dz411's Ciara is the strongest advocate for this technique. Kudos to her.

IP tracking whether through emails or not is useful but it does have its limits. With the changing nature of the Internet, people are sharing their IP address (in case of mobile internet) or using proxy (Tor, web-based mail service like Gmail,…), IP tracking is losing its power. We need a new tool to track and flag clients better. That’s why our recent pilot testing of VerifyHim’s SmartForm has gathered positive views from some of you. For those who don’t log in frequently and hasn’t checked what has been going on at VerifyHim lately, SmartForm is our new tool that can track client machine instead of IP.

SmartForm is regular contact form that can fingerprint a client machine instead of just record the IP. So if the same client come back and makes appointment with you or any other SmartForm’s users we can make sure his contact info is consistent. Be it if he has his IP changed, as long as the same computer or smartphone are used, we can still detect if he’s the same person. And no we don’t drop malwares or shit like that on a client machine to track them. This simple technology has been used by many mobile banking sites in Singapore thanks to one of our developers who is an expert in online fraud detection. On top of that SmartForm can also do history sniffing (inspiration is from http://startpanic.com/) and many other cool tricks. You will have a full report of the client machine when he makes an appointment with you. Using SmartForm and Readnotify.com, a tech-savvy provider can be more control of what is going on.

Project Carmen Sandiego and cell phone tracking

I blogged about “Project Carmen Sandiego” and how we can use it 2 months ago. For those who haven’t read our blog yet (logging in VerifyHim to read members-only posts, you should be already in there by now), it is a way to track a cell phone movements and location. Their method can track down a cell phone using public data. It can tell if a cell phone is at a certain location like near north SF but not exactly pinpointing the location like 69 Handcock St.

This method of tracking only works with GSM network providers like AT&T and T-Mobile. You can Google for the complete list of GSM network providers. In Asia and a few countries in EU, you can pin down the postal code of the phone’s physical location. However, in North America it is a bit tricky to use.

The way this method works is simple. By using a service called HLR query or MSC lookup, you can get the serial code (called MSC – tech jargon crap) of the control center the cell phone is connected to. This trick has been used by many phone marketing companies to remove bad cell phone numbers from their list and find out more info about a number. When a person moves from one area to another area, his cell phone will connect to different control centers so your HLR query will get different results. There are tons of HLR query service out there, just google them. My favorite is smsitaly.com.

What I usually do is I query my own AT&T phone number to get my local center MSC serial code. If I find out a client use AT&T (VerifyHIm’s search engine tells me the network provider of a cell number) I can query his phone number close to the appointment time. If his MSC serial is the same as mine, I know he is nearby. And if it is not the same, he is messing with me. File a report for time-waster at VerifyHim.com! Isn’t that cool?

How to connect to somebody’s voice mail directly?

There are many services out there but I love slydial.com because it is free. I can leave a voice message for a person instead of talking to him directly. In a few situations, this service can become handy if you want to avoid confrontation and drama. Also, sometimes I want to hear the person's voicemail greeting message as a way to identify his race and age (especially the ones who are booking online). Not always accurate, but it’s good to know this trick.

Who are the people behind VerifyHim?

We have this question a few times. Some even try to send “readnotify.com” email to us to find out who we are. There are a few (I would say 2 or 3) respected providers have been casting suspicious on us online and offline. We have an idea of who they are but we will stop there because they are respected members of the escort community and we also do deeply respect them. But instead of talking to us directly, sadly they choose a different medium. We may have to beg for forgiveness one day….Sigh…

Unlike other provider-only communities, we don’t like to put a personality on VerifyHim. There won’t be ABC of VerifyHim. We acknowledge the positive of having a personality as the face of a community in term of trusts. But we also see the negative of having a personality, read ********** (not affiliated with VerifyHim.com) for all the things going on with the “personalities” at eccie. There are no perfect models and there are pros and cons of each models. All I can tell you is VerifyHim team consists of 2 under-paid developers and a few non-paid tech-savvy providers. Our servers and main development are located in Singapore. If you are passionate about technology and/or want to help us, you can always join our team (contact support@verifyhim.com and tell us what you can contribute to the community).

People come and go; most providers don’t stay that long in the business and possibly so does the mostly-volunteer staff of VerifyHim. That’s another reason why we don’t want to put a face on it. Eventually some of the members in our testing group right now might graduate to run VerifyHim in the future, who knows. People think we are in this to make a killing and it makes me laugh. Look at how much other sites are charging and what they offer in term of what we do? ProviderBuzz is the only free site out there, but it is a simple site with a database lookup and closely associated with the cash-rich P411. VerifyHim collects small fee (equal to 3 McDonald Meals) to cover our hosting, feeding developers and paying the data brokers. And the results have been acceptable (we’re never satisfied) ; we are now able to provide unlisted phone number lookup (premium user), and piercing through Yahoo, Hotmail and Facebook profiles like magic workers(thanks to the 2 under-paid developers) and tons of other cool things.

We just hope to be accepted by the escort community and only judged by our works. The elites can be skeptical but if they want to partner with us, it would be awesome (waiting to hear from them). Most providers in the end of the day won’t pay much attention on “who’s who” and just want to make a living drama-free. It’s our goal to make sure you get home safely every day. It's the common goal we all share. Please let us know what we can do to help.







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Old 03-23-2011, 08:36 AM   #2
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this is lovely! thanks for the post!!
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:13 AM   #3
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Great information. Thanks!!
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:30 AM   #4
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Great information that goes both ways for screening.

Also, for those of us that prefer to remain UTR, some hints as what not to do if we wnat to remain UTR.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:47 AM   #5
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thanks for this information KAYVEE. I am not a provider but i am a female And these sob's (pervs) long story for why i am a member on eccie... but i have been chatting with a few members and they can feed you some bs so i like this you have posted???? hey my 28 yoa son is comp savy geek i will tell him maybe he can help you on searches be safe and take care KIM
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:44 PM   #6
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Great Info! Thanks!
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Old 03-26-2011, 02:03 AM   #7
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i like this is very smart tool
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:10 AM   #8
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Thanks for sharing this great info! This info will help in getting me up to speed on the technology out there to be aware of... and we can use to further the verification process.

Thanks again girl... and be safe!
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:33 PM   #9
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Thanks!
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:03 PM   #10
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Great info! Thanks soo much very imformative!
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:04 PM   #11
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Great info.. I found it to be very informative!!


-thanx for sharing.
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:05 PM   #12
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Thank you for posting. Its not bad info. Also, regarding geotagging, I quick way to see if your pics on your computer has gps coordinates embedded, is to do a properties, details.
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Default I'm glad that you guys find our newsletter useful

I'm glad that you guys find our newsletter useful. The lack of privacy in using modern technology can be used for our advantage in screening clients.

There are many tricks that can be used to screen and detect red flags. Beside geo-tagging and other tricks above, checking when an email account or a social profile was created can be very helpful in detecting frauds. For example if somebody just created an email account and contact us to make an appointment, that would be a huge red flag. Yahoo, Hotmail and other major networks do expose basic information that allow us to peek into the accounts and use them for screening.

VerifyHim has a chart http://www.verifyhim.com/chart1-draft.jpg that can be used as a framework for your own screening process. It is a very rough draft but hopefully it will help anybody who are still wondering about client screening.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:04 AM   #14
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This was a great post! I have been using VerifyHim and it is at the top of my screening tools that I use. So Thank You to everyone there at VerifyHim, and keep up the good work! Like you said, it should and is about keeping us all SAFE!
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Old 05-25-2011, 12:50 PM   #15
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Thank you, Ava.

BTW, If you are a provider and want to know if a customer's phone is VOIP or call forwarding, PM me and I will tell you how and why it is important to know that information.
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