Why do bad things happen to good people?

[HDGristle]

So, your position is that free wills collide and sometimes you end up on the wrong end of a multitude of choices.

I think that's reasonable

[winn dixie]

Gristle, I feel what you're saying.
Not being insensitive here.
I just accept life the way it is.
Life is not fair. It's life.
Just my way.

[HDGristle]

Nothing insensitive about that at all. Many folks fall into the "shit happens" crowd

It's something that's more poignant and weighted of a question for those who feel God involves Himself in our daily affairs, has a plan and is active. Or that karmic forces are at play. Brings up whether we are here to suffer for a future reward in the afterlife.

Calls into question the concept of a just God. Or even an omnipotent God, vs an impotent planner who gave up directing so that we might have free will.

Makes some question whether we or others are being punished by God. Or cosmic forces.

We could wax quite philosophical and theological here. Get into some very deep concepts.

[eyecu2]

Having had the experience of losing an entire portion of my related family - 4 ppl killed by an terrible auto accident, I can only tell you my story.

It takes feeling helpless, and without hope, that some people find their faith. Not sure that it needs to have a name or a label, but just simply bearing your soul and being vulnerable enough to know that you are NOT the only thing in control of your life- is a big shocker for some people who didn't grow up in a church or religious environment. For me- it was about being exactly that- and to understand that I don't know the answers and that I needed to give that my god to help me understand, and to trust in them to let me get through this, or to help me prepare for the losses and the turmoil.

It took away 90% of my innocence and perspective of preparing for how to live life, and realize that life happens the way it's supposed to. You've got very little knowledge of the highs and lows that are going to be put in front of you- and that some of them may be required for you to rejoice in the good things, and respect the lows, which will bring you closer to spirituality.

I've seen horrible things, and beautiful things. I can say they both shaped me, but sometimes I still wonder how I made it through the really bad shit. Rocking in the fetal position and tears, feeling sorry for myself or others, didn't really help me long term. But pouring out my heart and having faith to get me through the next day sure did. Asking for that - with the knowledge that only through some faith would be the way for me to be ok.


And that's from a non-churchy dude- who likes naughty ladies of low morales. It's literally a miracle in some ways that I'm still here. I'd imagine it's the same for a few other sinners here and those who have been touched by loss, or many losses. Or to be so utterly thankful for the blessings they have been given. Both are pretty profound.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Having had a entire family killed by an terrible auto accident, I can only tell you my story. It takes feeling helpless, and without hope, that some people find their faith. Not sure that it needs to have a name or a label, but just simply bearing your soul and being vulnerable enough to know that you are NOT the only thing in control of your life- is a big shocker for some people who didn't grow up in a church or religious environment. For me- it was about being exactly that- and to understand that I don't know the answers and that I needed to give that my god to help me understand, and to trust in them to let me get through this, or to help me prepare for the losses and the turmoil.

It took away 90% of my innocence and perspective of preparing for how to live life, and realize that life happens the way it's supposed to. You've got very little knowledge of the highs and lows that are going to be put in front of you- and that some of them may be required for you to rejoice in the good things, and respect the lows, which will bring you closer to spirituality.

I've seen horrible things, and beautiful things. I can say they both shaped me, but sometimes I still wonder how I made it through the really bad shit. Rocking in the fetal position and tears, feeling sorry for myself or others, didn't really help me long term. But pouring out my heart and having faith to get me through the next day sure did. Asking for that - with the knowledge that only through some faith would be the way for me to be ok.


And that's from a non-churchy dude- who likes naughty ladies of low morales. It's literally a miracle in some ways that I'm still here. I'd imagine it's the same for a few other sinners here and those who have been touched by loss, or many losses.

Nice share

[winn dixie]

I don't view it as shit happens.
More like that's just life. Can't control it. I do respect everyone's viewpoint on this.