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01-31-2024, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Trump had the border situation under control.
THe problem was SOLVED.
You must have missed that.
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You all must have missed where the Trump administration was sued and lost, when it came to changes they did on border policies, and were over-ruled.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time...ry?id=45332741
The problem with EO's is that while they may create an immediate effect, they are often overturned by those who file lawsuits and they are over-ruled. Trump faced over 70 plus examples of being over-ruled on his EO's.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ump-overruled/
If you do it congress, and they vote on it, the new law over-rules the prior and is considered valid= hence the reason for things like the ACA, and other's that have made it through scrutiny-and found legal, vs. proclamations that have found their way to the circular file of death.
Those who think that you can wave your magic presidential wand at some of these border policies are naïve and need to revisit the reason's that EO's work and when they don't.
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01-31-2024, 11:15 AM
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You all must have missed where the Trump administration was sued and lost, when it came to changes they did on border policies, and were over-ruled.
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You must have missed that all these VALID AND LEGAL policies of the Trump Admin were in place and controlling the border before Senile Biden sullied the office and took these corrupt and treasonous actions on January 20th, 2021:
—Border wall immediately defunded
—Emergency Declaration withdrawn
—Deportation of illegal aliens paused
—Remain In Mexico policy terminated
—Termination of all safe third agreements, exempting families and minors from T42 (and then ending T42 entirely),
—Also ended immigration prosecutions,
—Also ended third country transit ban, ending HARP & PACR,
—Also ended interior Mexican repatriation flights.
So Senile Biden has all the tools now to defend the border without no new law needed. But if you are so caught up and desperate for a new law, maybe you should call Chuckles Schumer and tell him to vote on HR2 - the Secure the Border Act of 2023 that he has been sitting on for almost a year
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01-31-2024, 01:01 PM
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Who is blocking efforts to enact border legislation now? Not Biden.
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Nope. Because if they allowed Biden to address the border situation, they couldn't cry and bitch about it during campaign season. Republicans hate America.
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01-31-2024, 01:56 PM
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Nope. Because if they allowed Biden to address the border situation, they couldn't cry and bitch about it during campaign season. Republicans hate America.
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Let me try to make a little sense here.
GOP Majority Leader Mike Johnson gave a speech on the House floor today. Next to him was an exhibit listing "64 Biden actions to weaken border security".
Wanna see the full list? Click here:
https://www.speaker.gov/64-times-the...rder-security/
So tell us, tommy, who or what is stopping Biden from repealing/reversing all 64 actions he took to weaken border security since he became President?
Not Republicans!
If Biden's hands weren't tied when he took 64 steps to worsen the border crisis, how are they tied now when he is under pressure to do the right thing and reverse all his earlier actions?
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01-31-2024, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
You must have missed that all these VALID AND LEGAL policies of the Trump Admin were in place and controlling the border.
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Didn't miss them at all. I understand the position your touting but it's not a fix if one POTUS can change things with an EO, and another undo it by the same. It's simply not fixed, and the TRUMP administration was sued for doing exactly what you've proposed as a solution and LOST.
Further: President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration
https://www.cato.org/blog/president-...al-immigration
Further he wasn't even that good at getting rid of illegals:
https://infogram.com/figure-3-immigr...h1749vwvz01l6z
In the end; I dont' think any president has done a very good job at border controls, and a big ol fence isn't the only way to stop these ppl. You need to include bigger consequences for offenders and repeat offenders, that's a whole other story.
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01-31-2024, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Let me try to make a little sense here.
GOP Majority Leader Mike Johnson gave a speech on the House floor today. Next to him was an exhibit listing "64 Biden actions to weaken border security".
Wanna see the full list? Click here:
https://www.speaker.gov/64-times-the...rder-security/
So tell us, tommy, who or what is stopping Biden from repealing/reversing all 64 actions he took to weaken border security since he became President?
Not Republicans!
If Biden's hands weren't tied when he took 64 steps to worsen the border crisis, how are they tied now when he is under pressure to do the right thing and reverse all his earlier actions?
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Thanks for the FACTS
As always, the left seems to want to avoid them
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01-31-2024, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Let me try to make a little sense here.
GOP Majority Leader Mike Johnson gave a speech on the House floor today. Next to him was an exhibit listing "64 Biden actions to weaken border security".
Wanna see the full list? Click here:
https://www.speaker.gov/64-times-the...rder-security/
So tell us, tommy, who or what is stopping Biden from repealing/reversing all 64 actions he took to weaken border security since he became President?
Not Republicans!
If Biden's hands weren't tied when he took 64 steps to worsen the border crisis, how are they tied now when he is under pressure to do the right thing and reverse all his earlier actions?
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Then why is trump urging his trained monkeys in the House to block the bipartisan border bill? Who's stopping it from passing? It has wide bipartisan support in the Senate. Biden's ready to sign it into law. Why the holdup in the House?
trump's also on record as hoping the economy collapses in the next 6 months. Lol. Sounds like he just wants something he can cry about to his retarded voters during the campaign.
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01-31-2024, 03:44 PM
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Then why is trump urging his trained monkeys in the House to block the bipartisan border bill?
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You're deflecting. Care to answer my question?
I've heard estimates the number of illegals streaming across our borders could be choked off by at least 75% - if Biden would just reverse those 64 ill-advised actions he took unilaterally to throw the border wide open in the first place.
So - who or what is stopping him from doing that right now??
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02-01-2024, 12:36 PM
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Bipartisan bill is all ready to go in the Senate. Biden's ready to sign it. House Republicans (at the behest of their lord and savior, trump) refuse to allow it to pass. Must not be that big of a problem if they don't want to fix it.
This is all just more imaginary, boogeyman scare tactics from the GOP, so they have something to bitch and cry about (and scare their idiotic voters with) during campaign season. If it truly was a problem, the solution is sitting right there.
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02-01-2024, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Bipartisan bill is all ready to go in the Senate. Biden's ready to sign it. House Republicans (at the behest of their lord and savior, trump) refuse to allow it to pass. Must not be that big of a problem if they don't want to fix it.
This is all just more imaginary, boogeyman scare tactics from the GOP, so they have something to bitch and cry about (and scare their idiotic voters with) during campaign season. If it truly was a problem, the solution is sitting right there.
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Not only is that false, but you are deflecting once again
Seems the question was:
Who or what is stopping Senile Biden from just reversing those 64 ill-advised actions he took unilaterally to throw the border wide open in the first place?
Furthermore, why should anyone trust him to enforce the laws when he has refused to do so for the past 3 years?
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02-02-2024, 12:36 PM
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3 Mexicans were arrested in Illinois for recruiting other illegals to commit retail theft in order to receive fake IDs.
481 fake IDs were recovered including social security cards, green cards, and driver’s licenses. **** was also found.
Biden’s open border is leading to crimes all over the country and putting Americans’ lives in danger. We have no idea who’s in our country.
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02-02-2024, 01:34 PM
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What a waste of American taxpayer money
NYC launches $53M program to hand out pre-paid credit cards to illegals
Mayor Eric Adams’ administration will soon start handing out pre-paid credit cards to illegals being put up in Big Apple hotels, The Post has learned.
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02-02-2024, 11:39 PM
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Democrat Governor Sounds Like Republicans: Close The Southern Border Mr. President
Democrats are beginning to sound like Republicans about the need to restore common sense southern border security, recognizing that the large-scale migrant invasion their party (plus taxpayer-funded NGOs) allowed could jeopardize President Biden's re-election prospects in November.
On Friday morning, Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont, a Democrat, joined Bloomberg TV, admitting Democrats were "a little slow" in responding to the border crisis.
A little slow? Let's try horrendously slow; as a recent opinion piece in The Hill from Merill Matthews, a scholar with the Institute for Policy Innovation, said, "another 10 million have entered during Biden's presidency."
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02-04-2024, 12:01 PM
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A few other things you probably don’t know: illegals in America can get bank loans, mortgages, insurance, driver’s licenses, free healthcare (California & New York) and in-state college tuition.
What’s the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits, but doesn’t pay taxes?
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