How much does LE care?

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Some other advice:
Recon/research AMPS in your area...once you start going you will get better and the recon/research. You will know what to look for.

Monitor the news in your area.. if a SPA/AMP (SPAMP? - I like this term) gets raided and opens back up in 1-3 months.. STAY AWAY. Cops have been known to use a hot spot as a sting spot.

Monitor the SPA/AMP section in your city.. the more a place is reviewed the better the odds it will get raided, unless it is out in the boonies.

[Masalic]

Originally Posted by GhostRiderYYZ

Some other advice:
Recon/research AMPS in your area...once you start going you will get better and the recon/research. You will know what to look for.

Monitor the news in your area.. if a SPA/AMP (SPAMP? - I like this term) gets raided and opens back up in 1-3 months.. STAY AWAY. Cops have been known to use a hot spot as a sting spot.

Monitor the SPA/AMP section in your city.. the more a place is reviewed the better the odds it will get raided, unless it is out in the boonies.

That's kind of what I figured out the most trust worthy ones tend to be the ones that use word of mouth to get advertising, Having their own website also adds some legitimacy...I might have to use signal thought right? To keep messages encrypted?
Really though, the more I think about it the more I feel my time would be better spent saving up for a trip to Thailand, much to the ire of many domestic workers.

[ponzel]

Fairly sure signal messages are only secure if both users are using the app. Using signal to send a message to a phone number is just standard text messaging. As far as I'm aware.
Thailand is a great option, as is any of the other East Asian countries like Japan or South Korea. Only problem would be the language barrier.

[Masalic]

Originally Posted by ponzel

Fairly sure signal messages are only secure if both users are using the app. Using signal to send a message to a phone number is just standard text messaging. As far as I'm aware.
Thailand is a great option, as is any of the other East Asian countries like Japan or South Korea. Only problem would be the language barrier.

What about what's app does that work in a similar way? Or is it more encrypted despite that?

[Anonymous01]

Stop worrying about cops, AMPs and encrypted chats. The single best predictor if you'll get busted is an aggressive, career climbing local, county, state or federal prosecuting attorney. If they're running for election or re-election, they will tell the cops to "bust up sex trafficking rings" (like AMPs) so they can get favorable press.


I addressed traveling to safe, clean, foreign countries where the hobby is completely legal in your other thread. For all of the time and energy you'll spend looking for poor outcomes, save your $$$, do your homework, and go to Toronto or Montreal. You'll have memories to last a lifetime, and the hobby is civilized up there.


Resource: terb.cc (you have to join, it's free).

[SouthOfKC]

Where I'm at, the odds are those places eventually get shut down. I still go. Only real risk is being in there when they raid the place. If you want to get started you don't have to jump head first into the deep end. Pick a spot with good reviews. Go there. Get naked, drop 50 buck tip in plain sight and lay on the table. During the massage, let your hands roam a bit. Don't go crazy on the first visit just enough to put her at ease your not a cop and looking for fun. On the flip you most likely won't have to say anything. Enjoy the release. Now, you know the and they know you. Treat them nice and work your way toward more if that's what you want. That's the process I use if I hit a new place. I say nothing just in case I managed to find a sting operation (those seems kinda rare here). If you don't leave a tip out then there will be discussion about a tip which I prefer not to have. I've only ever left disappointed twice and both places I knew the odds were not in my favor.

Having said all of that: Toronto sounds better. Amps get the job done but set your expectations low. It ain't gonna be like you're in a porn movie. There really isn't much bad sex, just different levels of goodness. AMPS are generally at the low end of goodness. Still, I'm addicted lol

[Jackster21]

Originally Posted by SouthOfKC

AMPS are generally at the low end of goodness.

Come to Dallas and visit AMP land.

[AgMonger]

I wouldn't take anything that I have to say about this subject seriously, because it all really boils down to your risk tolerance. As for me, I found the AMPs I use in Dallas right here on ECCIE. The way I see it, if a bunch of cops ever did decide to raid the place when I am fucking some Korean babe, I would have enough time to pull out, lay face down on a table and have her pretend to do a back massage. They are all "massage" places for Pete's sake. Unless the cops are planning on doing some serious CSI bullshit of whatever "sample" they might off of me or out of her, then how the fuck would they ever prove that we weren't just doing a plain old, completely legal massage therapy. It's not my job to check to see is my K-Girl of choice is a Licensed Massage Therapist (LMT). I could simply claim that I thought she was and that she was doing a good job. It's their job to prove that an actual money for sex transaction was actually taking place, and I am not going to say shit to them. Plead the 5th, tell them you want a lawyer and demand that they show you a warrant before they collect any evidence. In short, fuck the police. What I do behind closed doors with another ready, willing and able person is really none of their fucking business anyway, and I am not about to help them in their supposed investigation.

So what if they have some tip/info suggesting that sex for hire is going on somewhere? That kinda shit happens at every single strip club to one degree or another in the world. As for Dallas, the better AMPs are located on or near Harry Hines Blvd and/or Walnut Hill Rd, which coincidentally have several dozens (potentially hundreds) of damned near nude street walkers every day as soon as the sun goes down. If they cops really cared, they could round up johns and hoes by the hundreds every night, but they don't. Why? Well because it is not illegal to stop and talk a street whore, and unless said street meat is an active duty vice cop doing stings, whatever you do behind closed doors with another consenting adult would be impossible for them to police/monitor at all, much less prove anything criminal that would stand up in court versus anyone willing to fight the charge.

Speaking personally, I was very concerned about everything when I first rolled into an AMP. Was I gonna get robbed? Was I gonna get arrested? Was I gonna catch some unbelievably painful, completely incurable bug that would make my dick fall off? etc. etc. etc. As I look back on it now, I have raw dogged a couple dozen AMP girls over the last year or so, and the worst that ever happened was a shitty time with some girl I wasn't attracted to at all and the loss of a couple hundred bucks. I figure that is just a run of the mill risk with anything in hobbyland, so that worst case scenario at this point is hardly even worth mentioning.

If I am in the mood for pussy right freaking now, and I don't want to deal with any of the scheduling bullshit that is normal for the Indy girls, I can be latex free and nuts deep into the K-Girl d'jour for $280 and a half an hour after I call to set something up. 50 minutes (of an hour session) after showing up and breaking one off CIM or CIP, I am back in the shower room washing off, getting dressed right after and on with my day. Easy Peasy, No Muss, No Fuss.

Again, take whatever risks you feel comfortable with. As for me, I am at a stage in life where I just don't give a shit anymore, and frankly, I have found myself all the happier for reaching that stage. I spent 48 years running around being afraid of my own shadow or getting into some kind of trouble. The last 3 have been beyond enlightening. I wish I had learned how not to give a fuck 30 years sooner than I actually did. That said, I know better going forward, and I intend to party to the best of my ability/health until I die, whenever that may be.

[Trick Nixon]

Great post and attitude, AgMonger!