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12-12-2022, 11:58 AM
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thank you for the post sir.... I was unaware of these facts
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Most who just get their news from the radical right-wing news outlets are... not surprised!
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12-12-2022, 01:31 PM
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Most who just get their news from the radical right-wing news outlets are... not surprised!
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once again you make a general statement that doesn't hold up. none of the main stream media is reporting this.
not a word from CNN on him being given a bad conduct discharge.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/02/polit...all/index.html
NBC refers to him as a former marine.
The family of Paul Whelan, a businessman and former Marine imprisoned in Russia on suspicion of spying, said it was told by the Biden administration in advance that he would not be part of the prisoner swap Thursday that allowed the release of U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...-gri-rcna60732
it's technically correct he is a former Marine.
FOX on the other hand did mention why ...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/who...-bout-exchange
"At the time, Whelan resided officially in Michigan, working as a corporate security executive for auto-parts manufacturer BorgWarner. Whelan had reportedly used his position to connect with law enforcement across different countries and had official citizenship outside the U.S. with Ireland and the United Kingdom. After serving in Iraq, he was dishonorably discharged from the Marine Corps for larceny and other poor conduct-related charges."
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12-12-2022, 01:43 PM
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Berryberry, Cody brought up a valid question that does have to do with the topic of this thread. Why are you only concerned about this Marine now, when he's been locked up over there since 2018? Why weren't you concerned in 2018, 2019, or 2020?
Don't worry. I won't hold my breath. I don't suspect that you will be able to answer the question.
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12-12-2022, 01:46 PM
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Berryberry, Cody brought up a valid question that does have to do with the topic of this thread. Why are you only concerned about this Marine now, when he's been locked up over there since 2018? Why weren't you concerned in 2018, 2019, or 2020?
Don't worry. I won't hold my breath. I don't suspect that you will be able to answer the question.
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As I previously responded, This thread is NOT about President Trump. It is about Senile Biden leaving a white male marine behind who served our country to get an American hating black lesbian in their latest identity politics push
It was the WhiteHouse that suggested Griner's potential (now real) release would accompany Whelan's, a rookie negotiating mistake that increased Russia's leverage.
It was the Senile Biden admin that chose Griner over Whelan
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12-12-2022, 01:49 PM
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As I previously responded, This thread is NOT about President Trump. It is about Senile Biden leaving a white male marine behind who served our country to get an American hating black lesbian in their latest identity politics push
It was the WhiteHouse that suggested Griner's potential (now real) release would accompany Whelan's, a rookie negotiating mistake that increased Russia's leverage.
It was the Senile Biden admin that chose Griner over Whelan
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I didn't say anything about Trump. You can't answer the question, because it illustrates that your premise is ridiculous.
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12-12-2022, 01:58 PM
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I didn't say anything about Trump. You can't answer the question, because it illustrates that your premise is ridiculous.
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His (and your) question was about President Trump which is not relevant to this thread about Senile Biden swapping the Merchant of Death for an black lesbian who hates America while leaving a white male former marine who served our country behind. The fact that you can't understand that is your problem, not mine
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12-12-2022, 02:08 PM
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My question was not about Trump As I predicted, you can't answer the question because to do so would expose your BS.
Also of note, this guy was given a bad conduct discharge from the marines for being a thief. Not the hero that you make him out to be. As far as I know, the basketball player isn't a thief.
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12-12-2022, 02:54 PM
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But she'll have really great memories of borsch flavored pussy to share with Oprah as soon as she's on to talk about her imprisonment.
It will probably put Borsch into Oprahs recommended Weight Watchers recipes.
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Fucking Devo...ok that was fuckin funny!
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12-12-2022, 03:18 PM
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I'm sure Biden/Blinken asked about Paul Whelan. Sadly Blinken is a momma's pussy, and doesn't know how to offer a carrot, but also show the stick too. What Berry isn't saying is that while the current administration couldn't get a win on PW today, there likely be more talks.
Russian needs to save face in the world right now, so a small give, is likely all they could get. I don't agree with it in total, but sometimes you take what you can get. There will be more to come in the future cause literally there are way more bad actors to swap out.
I think this week's releases were more to tout a political win , vs any moral correctness. Not to cast dispersions at Griner or Whelan. The administration is just trying to lock up a few wins.
Much like Trump said when we were energy independent - when in fact the need for external oil was almost nill during a pandemic.
It's all about optics
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12-12-2022, 03:40 PM
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Most who just get their news from the radical right-wing news outlets are... not surprised!
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See bluto... mature people admit when they are wrong or overlook something, not that is in your DNA obviously. Since u don't know where I actually get my news and is simply just another assumption on your part, I'll just label this post as another not worthy for me to give a shit post. You have inventoried quite a few
Carry on
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12-12-2022, 05:47 PM
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See bluto... mature people admit when they are wrong or overlook something, not that is in your DNA obviously. Since u don't know where I actually get my news and is simply just another assumption on your part, I'll just label this post as another not worthy for me to give a shit post. You have inventoried quite a few
Carry on
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It's very easy to see from your posts where you get your news from.
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12-12-2022, 05:52 PM
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His (and your) question was about President Trump which is not relevant to this thread about Senile Biden swapping the Merchant of Death for an black lesbian who hates America while leaving a white male former marine who served our country behind. The fact that you can't understand that is your problem, not mine
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Last time I looked, Griner is an american citizen. Why the hell should it matter that she is black or a woman or a lesbian or that she doesn't share your views. Does it piss you off that she is not a white and a male?
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12-12-2022, 06:09 PM
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AKA Admiral Waco Kid
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Originally Posted by rmg_35
Last time I looked, Griner is an american citizen. Why the hell should it matter that she is black or a woman or a lesbian or that she doesn't share your views. Does it piss you off that she is not a white and a male?
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neither Griner or Whelan (or both together) should have been exchanged for Victor Bout.
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