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Old 08-02-2022, 11:15 AM   #16
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Default When Will Liz Warren, Bernie Sanders, AOC and the Entire Biden Cabinet Have a Similar Epiphany???

George McGovern was the ultra-liberal dim-retard candidate for President back in 1972.


A Politician's Dream Is a Businessman's Nightmare: A 1992 column on the realities of running a business

By George McGovern
Oct. 21, 2012 10:57 am ET


Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late.

-- Justice Felix Frankfurter


It's been 11 years since I left the U.S. Senate, after serving 24 years in high public office. After leaving a career in politics, I devoted much of my time to public lectures that took me into every state in the union and much of Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America.

In 1988, I invested most of the earnings from this lecture circuit acquiring the leasehold on Connecticut's Stratford Inn. Hotels, inns and restaurants have always held a special fascination for me. The Stratford Inn promised the realization of a longtime dream to own a combination hotel, restaurant and public conference facility -- complete with an experienced manager and staff.

In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business, especially during a recession of the kind that hit New England just as I was acquiring the inn's 43-year leasehold. I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better U.S. senator and a more understanding presidential contender.

Today we are much closer to a general acknowledgment that government must encourage business to expand and grow. Bill Clinton, Paul Tsongas, Bob Kerrey and others have, I believe, changed the debate of our party. We intuitively know that to create job opportunities we need entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off those opportunities.

My own business perspective has been limited to that small hotel and restaurant in Stratford, Conn., with an especially difficult lease and a severe recession. But my business associates and I also lived with federal, state and local rules that were all passed with the objective of helping employees, protecting the environment, raising tax dollars for schools, protecting our customers from fire hazards, etc. While I never have doubted the worthiness of any of these goals, the concept that most often eludes legislators is: "Can we make consumers pay the higher prices for the increased operating costs that accompany public regulation and government reporting requirements with reams of red tape." It is a simple concern that is nonetheless often ignored by legislators.

For example, the papers today are filled with stories about businesses dropping health coverage for employees. We provided a substantial package for our staff at the Stratford Inn. However, were we operating today, those costs would exceed $150,000 a year for health care on top of salaries and other benefits. There would have been no reasonable way for us to absorb or pass on these costs.

Some of the escalation in the cost of health care is attributed to patients suing doctors. While one cannot assess the merit of all these claims, I've also witnessed firsthand the explosion in blame-shifting and scapegoating for every negative experience in life.

Today, despite bankruptcy, we are still dealing with litigation from individuals who fell in or near our restaurant. Despite these injuries, not every misstep is the fault of someone else. Not every such incident should be viewed as a lawsuit instead of an unfortunate accident. And while the business owner may prevail in the end, the endless exposure to frivolous claims and high legal fees is frightening.

Our Connecticut hotel, along with many others, went bankrupt for a variety of reasons, the general economy in the Northeast being a significant cause. But that reason masks the variety of other challenges we faced that drive operating costs and financing charges beyond what a small business can handle.

It is clear that some businesses have products that can be priced at almost any level. The price of raw materials (e.g., steel and glass) and life-saving drugs and medical care are not easily substituted by consumers. It is only competition or antitrust that tempers price increases. Consumers may delay purchases, but they have little choice when faced with higher prices.

In services, however, consumers do have a choice when faced with higher prices. You may have to stay in a hotel while on vacation, but you can stay fewer days. You can eat in restaurants fewer times per month, or forgo a number of services from car washes to shoeshines. Every such decision eventually results in job losses for someone. And often these are the people without the skills to help themselves -- the people I've spent a lifetime trying to help.

In short, "one-size-fits-all" rules for business ignore the reality of the marketplace. And setting thresholds for regulatory guidelines at artificial levels -- e.g., 50 employees or more, $500,000 in sales -- takes no account of other realities, such as profit margins, labor intensive vs. capital intensive businesses, and local market economics.

The problem we face as legislators is: Where do we set the bar so that it is not too high to clear? I don't have the answer. I do know that we need to start raising these questions more often.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...70543545022704
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:33 PM   #17
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nice article from McGovern. too bad hes not alive to tell those stupid liberals.


fyi, he died on the day the article was published.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:54 PM   #18
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nice article from McGovern. too bad he's not alive to tell those stupid liberals.

fyi, he died on the day the article was published.

Fyi - it was actually a reprint of a letter he had written to the WSJ 20 years earlier. They just re-published it when he died.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:57 PM   #19
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Great letter
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Old 08-03-2022, 01:20 AM   #20
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You were right.
No adults in this room.
Some of you guys don't even know how to to use an RTM button.
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:38 AM   #21
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We don't have any in the pipeline either.

The first step of the journey on the "Path to 70" begins with doing nothing productive
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:51 AM   #22
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Some of you guys don't even know how to to use an RTM button.
That's a good thing, munchy...

But when your "public servants" don't even know how to meet a payroll yet they presume to tell you how to run your business... that's a bad thing!
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Old 08-03-2022, 07:59 AM   #23
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Would seem the Demonicrats are on the 100 year plan - according to Confucius:
“ If Your Plan Is for 1 Year, Plant Rice. If Your Plan Is for 10 Years, Plant Trees. If Your Plan Is for 100 Years, Educate Children”


Although, that is a bit of under achieving even on their part as Lyndon Johnson had a 200 year plan for a particular voting demographic.
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