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Old 06-16-2022, 10:47 PM   #481
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Not really a destruction, but a reset. Remember back 1-2 years ago. Workers with the upper hand, businesses having to raise pay. People doing the Financially Independent Retire Early thing (FIRE).

Power structure wants to regain the upper hand. Make savers next eggs worthless, drive the stock and bond portfolios down. Make em pay 200 to fill up the truck. That will make em get their asses back to work, and they'll like it!

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Who is purposely destroying the economy?
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Old 06-16-2022, 10:53 PM   #482
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... Russia and China get richer and America gets poorer.
Great Plan!

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Old 06-16-2022, 11:16 PM   #483
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Not really a destruction, but a reset. Remember back 1-2 years ago. Workers with the upper hand, businesses having to raise pay. People doing the Financially Independent Retire Early thing (FIRE).

Power structure wants to regain the upper hand. Make savers next eggs worthless, drive the stock and bond portfolios down. Make em pay 200 to fill up the truck. That will make em get their asses back to work, and they'll like it!
I was hoping for a serious response.

The ''power structure'' is losing much more than the Proletariat when the Market plunges.
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Old 06-17-2022, 11:38 AM   #484
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No, the Power Structure sells first, and sells big, driving down the prices. You think all the Joe six-packs with their 401ks can cause 4% daily market swings? The Power Structure has access to information that the Proletariat does not. Thats how they keep in Power.
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No, the Power Structure sells first, and sells big, driving down the prices. You think all the Joe six-packs with their 401ks can cause 4% daily market swings? The Power Structure has access to information that the Proletariat does not. Thats how they keep in Power.
I'll buy some of that. But the most recent selling has been on light volume. From the Proletariat. Granted you could say the Power Money sold earlier this year. I would partially buy that.
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Old 06-17-2022, 11:53 AM   #486
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I'd say Jamie Diamond was in the know a couple weeks back when he said there was a Hurricane on the way!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/jami...raine-war.html

I wish I'd paid more attention, that's for sure!
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I'd say Jamie Diamond was in the know a couple weeks back when he said there was a Hurricane on the way!

I wish I'd paid more attention, that's for sure!
Word!

I just bought Apache and Devon Energy.. Oil stocks have cratered the past 2 weeks. Granted so have others, but I held my breath buying, wondering if someone knows something I don't.

I think they will bounce hard next week. After options expire today, and assuming recent sellers were simply taking sizeable profits.
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:00 PM   #488
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No, the Power Structure sells first, and sells big, driving down the prices. You think all the Joe six-packs with their 401ks can cause 4% daily market swings? The Power Structure has access to information that the Proletariat does not. Thats how they keep in Power.

Chung has some interesting views on the markets. he seems to think a billionaire getting several billions shaved off his net worth while still being a billionaire is the same as John WorkerBee seeing his entire portfolio crash to pennies on the dollar.
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:10 PM   #489
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I just bought Apache and Devon Energy.. Oil stocks have cratered the past 2 weeks. Granted so have others, but I held my breath buying, wondering if someone knows something I don't.

I think they will bounce hard next week. After options expire today, and assuming recent sellers were simply taking sizeable profits.
A couple more dollar drop and I'll be down to even!

If my energy stocks drop below a certain target...I'll buy some more! If I can get a steady 9-10% dividend, I won't pay to much concern on the stock price....though it was much nicer when it was up!
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:12 PM   #490
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Chung has some interesting views on the markets. he seems to think a billionaire getting several billions shaved off his net worth while still being a billionaire is the same as John WorkerBee seeing his entire portfolio crash to pennies on the dollar.
Both lose in percentages....

But you're right, one may feel much more pain at a pittance of lose compared to the billionaire.
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:39 PM   #491
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No, the Power Structure sells first, and sells big, driving down the prices... The Power Structure has access to information that the Proletariat does not. Thats (sic) how they keep in Power.
Hmm... help me out here, subbrain. Who are the members of your so-called Power Structure? Got a list of names? Do I need a referral to get in? Is there some kind of double-secret initiation ceremony for new members?

If I get in, do I receive an automatic exemption from the Insider Trading Laws? I mean, I like the part about having "access to information that the Proletariat does not" but I don't think I want to go to jail.

And are you sure all the members of this so-called Power Structure always buy and sell together in unison? I mean, how do you explain it when some of the Big Dogs are busy buying while others are busy shorting the market or a stock at the same time?

Was Ivan Boesky a member of your so-called Power Structure? That asshole sure had better "access to information" than I did. Whatever happened to him? I don't seem to recall him "keeping in power". Did the Power Structure kick him out? There are lots of examples like Ivan Boesky out there. Please explain it to us, subbrain.


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I'll buy some of that...
Yeah, I do believe you're stupid and gullible enough to buy it, chungy.

Here's an idea - Maybe you and subbrain should launch a "hedge fund for the proletariat" together. Good luck!
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:00 PM   #492
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Who are the members of your so-called Power Structure? Ya got a list of names?
You can start with both houses of Congress, The Executive Branch, SCOTUS, Select members of the General and Flank rank military, CEO's of fortune 500 companies
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Do I need a referral to get in? Is there some kind of double-secret initiation ceremony for new members?
No, but your expected to hold certain values as well as subscribe to the idea that you know better than the masses because, well, Look at your station in life. Think of them as an aristocracy that isn't necessarily dependent on birth and heritage. You can have a lot of money and still not be part of the "club" (see Trump, Donald J.) beloved by Dems until he held different views... ex-communicated from the club.
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Well if you're a member of Congress yeah. LOL.
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I mean, I like the part about having "access to information that the Proletariat does not" but I don't think I want to go to jail.
Well that's what the words prosecutorial discretion exist for. We know tat sometimes other club members get caught and occasionally we have to sacrifice one to the masses, but generally, club members are cleared after the club investigates itself. And rarely if ever does anyone from the club go to jail for perjury. See Clinton, William J.
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And are you sure all the members of this so-called Power Structure always buy and sell together in unison? I mean, how do you explain it when some of the Big Dogs are busy buying while others are busy shorting the market or a stock at the same time?
There is hierarchy even within the membership. Some animals are more equal than others afterall. Not ALL the members of the club are privy to the same info... some have expertise in some areas while others have information on different topics.
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Was Ivan Boesky a member of your so-called Power Structure? That asshole sure had better access to information than I did. Whatever happened to him? I don't seem to recall him "keeping in power". Did the Power Structure kick him out? There are lots of examples like Ivan Boesky out there.
See the above... Maybe Boesky was maybe he wasn't. Regardless, sloppy members lose their privileges. And just because there is a subtle membership that benefits from confidential info, doesn't mean their aren't petty thieves like Boesky attempting to do the same.
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Here's an idea - Maybe you and subbrain should launch a "hedge fund for the proletariat" together. Good luck!
I believe it's called an index fund.
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:11 PM   #493
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Not bad, sappy. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but funny.

Too bad neither subbrain nor chungy is intelligent enough to respond as you did.
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Old 06-17-2022, 01:34 PM   #494
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Not bad, sappy. Mostly tongue-in-cheek, but funny.

Too bad neither subbrain nor chungy is intelligent enough to respond as you did.
Too bad you think it was mostly tongue in your cheek!

Where do you think these Fed Chairs come from...the middle class? Or the JPMorgan's of the world?

Jesus son, get a grip.
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Old 06-17-2022, 03:43 PM   #495
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Too bad you think it was mostly tongue in your cheek!

Where do you think these Fed Chairs come from...the middle class? Or the JPMorgan's of the world?

Jesus son, get a grip.
You're the idiot who needs to get a grip.

Have you noticed CaptainMidnight has been posting lots of Fed analyses lately? It seems those Fed Chairs don't always speak with one voice or agree on the most appropriate course of action, as would be befitting if they were all members of the same like-minded so-called Power Structure. Maybe you ought to try reading the minutes of their meetings sometime.

As to where they come from, anytime there is a Fed vacancy the lib-retards have a knack for nominating the most woke, progressive, far-left idiots they can find, many of whom have little experience in banking and hate the JP Morgans of the world.
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