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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
I'm curious whether you also agree that what we are seeing on the nightly news, according to Sapper, is Ukrainian propaganda? That none of this is actually happening? The dead bodies, the destruction all fake to what, get material they have no other use for than to defend themselves?
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Try and be specific. There is no doubt a conflict going on in Ukraine. But so far we can count the following propaganda:
- Ukrain Airsoft Barbie
- 13 Ukraine marines saying FU to a Russian warship and then being killed.
- Russian tank that ran over civilian car in Kiev.
- Photos of Zelensky in military garb with a helmet on are from 2021 border inspection.
- Video of Ukrainian MiG-29 shooting down a Russian Su-35 was a Digital Combat Simulator animation
- Russian cruise missile that blew up the side of a residential building was actually a Ukrainian air-defense missile fired by the Ukrainian military
- Viral video of Ukrainian pilot shooting down Russian jet was a screen recording from Arma 3 video game
- Russian supply convoy that Ukrainian military blew up was a Ukrainian convoy
- Ukrainian military lied about blowing up 56 tanks that included General Tushayev (a man who doesn’t even exist)
- Russian jet bombing near residential homes appears to be a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter targeting Russian troops
- the Ghost of Kiev fighter pilot
- Bucha
For some reason the people that lied about the Steele Dossier and Russia gate, COVID death rates, Vaxx side effects, January 6th, have all decided to tell the truth about the Ukraine conflict.
C'mon, man. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
And do you believe that any of this material and money we are sending Ukraine, would be used here in the US to fix these many problems we have if it weren't going to Ukraine? We can't fix the problems in this country until we have people in power who will acknowledge these problems which I think you agree, are not Democrats.
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Oh, so let's spend money and material elsewhere since we can't get shit here fixed? Is that how you run your household budget? Can't get an agreement to redo the kitchen with the wife, so let's give the money to the neighbors down the street to fix their house?
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
But then, as I said, this is bi-partisan, better than 50% of the country believes we should be doing.
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You know that just because people believe something to be true (even a majority, does not make it so, right? I mean a majority of people thought the earth was the center of the universe too...
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
And the really funny part of all this, if you are against us doing all this like say Tucker Carlson, that you are spreading Putin propaganda? To be against this war makes one a Putin puppet? Silly, right?
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Ah, my favorite George Bushism... if you're not with us, you're against us. What horseshit. Opposing support for one side does not require support for the other.
I oppose helping EITHER of the sides. Again, not our circus, not our monkeys...