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Old 04-07-2022, 02:35 PM   #46
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Yes actually I would. I can demonstrate my knowledge by accurate predictions.
The Ukraine conflict will be done inside of 6 months

You mean this "made up propaganda" will be done in 6 months? And if it is done in 6 months, that proves what exactly?


You seem conflicted on whether this is an actual "conflict" or just made up propaganda.
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Old 04-07-2022, 02:39 PM   #47
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I'm curious whether you also agree that what we are seeing on the nightly news, according to Sapper, is Ukrainian propaganda? That none of this is actually happening? The dead bodies, the destruction all fake to what, get material they have no other use for than to defend themselves?
Try and be specific. There is no doubt a conflict going on in Ukraine. But so far we can count the following propaganda:
  • Ukrain Airsoft Barbie
  • 13 Ukraine marines saying FU to a Russian warship and then being killed.
  • Russian tank that ran over civilian car in Kiev.
  • Photos of Zelensky in military garb with a helmet on are from 2021 border inspection.
  • Video of Ukrainian MiG-29 shooting down a Russian Su-35 was a Digital Combat Simulator animation
  • Russian cruise missile that blew up the side of a residential building was actually a Ukrainian air-defense missile fired by the Ukrainian military
  • Viral video of Ukrainian pilot shooting down Russian jet was a screen recording from Arma 3 video game
  • Russian supply convoy that Ukrainian military blew up was a Ukrainian convoy
  • Ukrainian military lied about blowing up 56 tanks that included General Tushayev (a man who doesn’t even exist)
  • Russian jet bombing near residential homes appears to be a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter targeting Russian troops
  • the Ghost of Kiev fighter pilot
  • Bucha

For some reason the people that lied about the Steele Dossier and Russia gate, COVID death rates, Vaxx side effects, January 6th, have all decided to tell the truth about the Ukraine conflict.

C'mon, man. Wake up and smell the coffee.

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And do you believe that any of this material and money we are sending Ukraine, would be used here in the US to fix these many problems we have if it weren't going to Ukraine? We can't fix the problems in this country until we have people in power who will acknowledge these problems which I think you agree, are not Democrats.
Oh, so let's spend money and material elsewhere since we can't get shit here fixed? Is that how you run your household budget? Can't get an agreement to redo the kitchen with the wife, so let's give the money to the neighbors down the street to fix their house?

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But then, as I said, this is bi-partisan, better than 50% of the country believes we should be doing.
You know that just because people believe something to be true (even a majority, does not make it so, right? I mean a majority of people thought the earth was the center of the universe too...

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And the really funny part of all this, if you are against us doing all this like say Tucker Carlson, that you are spreading Putin propaganda? To be against this war makes one a Putin puppet? Silly, right?
Ah, my favorite George Bushism... if you're not with us, you're against us. What horseshit. Opposing support for one side does not require support for the other.

I oppose helping EITHER of the sides. Again, not our circus, not our monkeys...
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Old 04-07-2022, 02:41 PM   #48
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You mean this "made up propaganda" will be done in 6 months? And if it is done in 6 months, that proves what exactly?


You seem conflicted on whether this is an actual "conflict" or just made up propaganda.
You are endlessly amusing... If you can't figure out that there is a propaganda war going on at the same time as the genuine conflict, you're even stupider than you've already led me to believe.
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Old 04-07-2022, 02:56 PM   #49
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You are endlessly amusing... If you can't figure out that there is a propaganda war going on at the same time as the genuine conflict, you're even stupider than you've already led me to believe.

Of course there is propaganda in any war, Vietnam brought that into clear view.


But the fact that innocent civilians are being tortured and killed as part of a "battle plan", is not propaganda, it is a fact. Those are war crimes, not propaganda



But I'm glad you at least acknowledge there is actual conflict and you just don't give a damn. Got it.
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:54 AM   #50
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putin on nukes


I'm not sure where the red line is on using nukes, but the russians do have an escalation policy..

they do have battlefield nukes. they will use those low yield nukes first before they escalate to the city busting nukes.
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:04 AM   #51
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sounds like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, thinks we just may have a dog in this hunt.
He also thinks men who cut off their dicks are women and nonexistent white nationalism is the country’s biggest threat. Clearly he’s a politician and has lost any credibility as a military man about 6 ranks ago.
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Old 04-08-2022, 10:50 AM   #52
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But the fact that innocent civilians are being tortured and killed as part of a "battle plan", is not propaganda, it is a fact.
Prove that statement please. You just asserted you understood that there was a propaganda war going on and in the next sentence claim definitive proof of war crimes.

Please present or link to that proof.

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Those are war crimes, not propaganda
Again... Where's your irrefutable proof?

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But I'm glad you at least acknowledge there is actual conflict and you just don't give a damn. Got it.
Oh, I care. I just don't care enough for American soldiers to shed blood over it. I don't care enough for American citizens to further indebt themselves over it.

500,000 people have died in the Sudan in the last decade because of a bloody civil war. Did you care about that? Why didn't you want weapons and troops sent there?

Lefties will say it's because you're RAYCISS.

But I know the truth... it's because the media didn't tell you to care... it wasn't on TV so you couldn't give a shit less about those poor Sudanese women, children, and elderly.

Death and destruction occurs everyday... but you seem only to care about the death and destruction you've been programmed to care about.

Now ask yourself... who do you think is winning the Propaganda war?
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