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Old 12-27-2021, 11:06 AM   #1
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Default The Babylon Bee VS. the Federlist.

Recently it was written here that the Federalist reported that a video taken in Delaware Co. Pa. was proof of election fraud, and a link provided allegedly proving this.
But like me in the previous sentance the Federalist used the word ALLEDGED not Proof as the OP claims!
Alleged dose not mean poof, it means something has yet to be proven, they are allegations, accusations, not proof!
That is very important in this case, that the OP either doesn't know the meaning of the word alleged, I personally find that hard to believe because the OP seems to be somewhat intelligent!
Or he chose to mislead us by committing a lie of omission!
Obviously the federalist a right leaning organization has a bit of integrity still and haven't drank the whole cup of trump Kool aid perhaps they don't the flavor!


I didn't read the Ops link before I wrote my response to that post, I just Googled the story, and low and behold first story that popped up was the aforementioned Babylon Bee article!
That was obviously bullshit, because the too represented the artical as fact also!
So I assumed that my search was accurate because the Op was representing the federalist story as proven, and not alleged as was written in the federalist story!
And no I don't look at every link he puts up because I am not going to subject to myself to the bullshit, and the obvious lies and conspiracy theories that sustain these folks

And now because the OP decided to leave out this very important word "ALLEDGED" and I am even more certain that he dose know what that word means, and intentionally is trying to mislead us by misrepresenting and omitting facts.
A lie of omission is still a lie bud!

Now today when I Googled this story, the Bee has disappeared " perhaps due to my wording" , but apparently the story is being fact checked by what seemingly is every news outlet with any integrity on the internet as allegations, not proof!

So the way that story is being represented here, it may as well have come from the Babylon Bee!

You want to talk about easy bud?
It's nice when you tell me where to find the proof of your lies!
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Old 12-27-2021, 12:02 PM   #2
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Hey dawg - good idea for you to start your own thread!

2 comments:

1. I went back and looked up berry's thread on ALLEGED Pennsylvania election fraud. The title of his thread even contains the word "alleged" in it. Did you miss that? So I think you're off-base in accusing the OP of trying to pass off allegations as proven facts. I approach everything I read with a healthy skepticism anyway.

2. Everyone knows, or should know, that the Onion and the Babylon Bee crank out satire. Their stories are intended to exaggerate and make people laugh, which is a healthy thing given all the self-important wingnut assholes out there who keep ruining our politics and deserve to be made fun of. Some of the thin-skinned targets of the Bee's satire have been dumb enough to sue it. Their lawsuits are invariably dismissed because satire is very much protected speech under our First Amendment.

Is this the BB story you were ranting about? If so, it came out BEFORE the allegations made in berry's thread. Not only that, but it pokes fun at the people (like Mike Lindell) who claim there was widespread voter fraud. Only an idiot would read it and mistake it for a straight news story.

https://babylonbee.com/news/pennsylv...oted-for-biden
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Old 12-27-2021, 01:34 PM   #3
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Since you are referring to my thread - let me correct some misstatements in your post above

1. Right there in the title of my thread is

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New Videos Capture Pennsylvania Officials Hiding Evidence Of Alleged Election Fraud
2. Right there in the first paragraph of the thread is this:

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New whistleblower videos capture Delaware County, Pennsylvania officials plotting to recreate missing election data from the November 2020 contest, with one official later bragging that the local Democrat district attorney “owes him.” These recordings represent the latest evidence of the alleged fraud officials in the Pennsylvania county undertook to hide widespread violations of the state’s election laws, according to a source familiar with the recordings.
3. Right there in the second paragraph of the thread is this:

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That lawsuit alleged county election officials destroyed election data in response to a May 21, 2021 Right to Know Request filed with Delaware County that requested the final certified return sheets from the Nov. 3, 2020 general election for all Delaware County precincts, as well as the tapes from the voting machines.
4. Not only that, I included a direct link to the Federalist article so anyone could read the story direct from the source. And they could watch the whistleblower videos themselves linked in the story

So your entire premise of your post is based on falsehoods you are making
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:49 PM   #4
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... Dog face's point is correct. ... It IS alleged - not proven yet.

Which is WHY we need full investigations.
Then we'll surely know what the truth is.

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Old 12-27-2021, 03:51 PM   #5
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Since you are referring to my thread - let me correct some misstatements in your post above

1. Right there in the title of my thread is



2. Right there in the first paragraph of the thread is this:



3. Right there in the second paragraph of the thread is this:



4. Not only that, I included a direct link to the Federalist article so anyone could read the story direct from the source. And they could watch the whistleblower videos themselves linked in the story

So your entire premise of your post is based on falsehoods you are making
I stand corrected berry yes it is right there in the title.
Perhaps I saw evidence and election fraud in the same sentance and went right past alleged.
Perhaps because that has been your sides battle cry since last July, so it just made me cross-eyed and momentarily unable to read.
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:57 PM   #6
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Hey dawg - good idea for you to start your own thread!

2 comments:

1. I went back and looked up berry's thread on ALLEGED Pennsylvania election fraud. The title of his thread even contains the word "alleged" in it. Did you miss that? So I think you're off-base in accusing the OP of trying to pass off allegations as proven facts. I approach everything I read with a healthy skepticism anyway.

2. Everyone knows, or should know, that the Onion and the Babylon Bee crank out satire. Their stories are intended to exaggerate and make people laugh, which is a healthy thing given all the self-important wingnut assholes out there who keep ruining our politics and deserve to be made fun of. Some of the thin-skinned targets of the Bee's satire have been dumb enough to sue it. Their lawsuits are invariably dismissed because satire is very much protected speech under our First Amendment.

Is this the BB story you were ranting about? If so, it came out BEFORE the allegations made in berry's thread. Not only that, but it pokes fun at the people (like Mike Lindell) who claim there was widespread voter fraud. Only an idiot would read it and mistake it for a straight news story.

https://babylonbee.com/news/pennsylv...oted-for-biden
I know about the onion, been around for years.

But no I don't read right wing sites, and I openly admitted my shame.
There ya go berry!
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Old 12-27-2021, 06:49 PM   #7
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Well I am glad you were able to admit you were wrong and stand corrected.

I have to give you credit for that as that is more than the other libs here who have been called out multiple times by numerous people for being wrong have done.
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Old 12-28-2021, 08:15 PM   #8
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Well I am glad you were able to admit you were wrong and stand corrected.

I have to give you credit for that as that is more than the other libs here who have been called out multiple times by numerous people for being wrong have done.
WTF?
The other libs
I'm a conservative you know limited government less taxes fiscal conservative.
Non-fealty to Trump dose not necessarily a liberal make.
Consider me a Kinzinger-Cheney conservative, I would like to say republican but that no longer applies due to Trump!
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Old 12-28-2021, 09:55 PM   #9
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... Hee Hee! ... That's ... uh.. "Dog"-whistle for "Trump Hater."

... But YOU can be anything you want, mate.
A "Kinzinger-Cheney" conservative, even a Republican
- just DON'T run for office -'Cause you'll LOSE!
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