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10-22-2021, 11:27 AM
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For anyone who saw Biden last night.
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10-22-2021, 07:07 PM
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It is....his botched job of handling the pandemic is one of many reasons why he lost....bigly
More people have died due to the Right Wing media telling people that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus
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What's your source? Let me guess - CNN?
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A more accurate account could be culled from a Bureau of Vital Statistics. But that pretty much nails it. Especially the source I quoted in the past that shows tens of thousands did not have to die because trump sat on the info China supplied about the coming pandemic. There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for those Americans to have died. That body count is directly attributed to his inaction.
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Oh the Twitter crowd - even better. You know what _ I sure could use a mean tweet and $1.50 a gallon gas right now. But the libturds are little pussys that can't handle his tweets because Trump hurts their fragil feelings. Damn, where are the real men instead of the snowflakes.
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Why you scared of going to the pump? You should be supporting $5+ a gallon for gas. Best thing for the State of Texas. Don't be acting like a Rino. ANY political party can tell you that you won't get Big Oil to explain how it determines its prices.
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Wow. Resorting to a left of center source to try and support your something you say. Might some say you are getting desperate? But who cares. Biden hasn't finished his term and he has already accompolished (sp) something your baby hasn't: the previous potus has never achieved the majority in the approval ratings. Why do you even care? You never chided your baby for consistently low poll numbers. (Had to use a like source as yours so as people can't say i'm "stretching" for a point. Will gladly supply a right wing source that states the same.)
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10-22-2021, 09:02 PM
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Are you kidding me Precious,
I don't want to pay what the folks in Calf are paying for gas which is $7.36 gallon. But under Biden that's something for you to look forward to. Have fun!!
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10-22-2021, 09:14 PM
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Are you kidding me Precious,
I don't want to pay what the folks in Calf are paying for gas which is $7.36 gallon. But under Biden that's something for you to look forward to. Have fun!!
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Than show where the Executive Branch directly controls the regulation of the price of oil in this country, other than war time productions.
You obviously ignored the link I supplied. And as usual, you don't supply a source that is neutral in position and highly factual.
So, until the laws in this land change, you are going to pay what the cartels want you to pay. And you might feel empowered to rage your tiny voice in saying that it is the Presidents fault. But the fact is, if the price is high, the taps that pour the dollars oil produces in the State of Texas are directly tied to taking care of roads, education and other things in our state. So, let those Californians and the California price do good in our little old Lonestar State.
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10-23-2021, 10:38 AM
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When the Biden administration stops the pipeline construction, stops new leases on federal land, stops the development of the Alaskan oil fields, and restricts the ability of oil producers in the Permian Basin to drill then yes, they are controlling a good chunk of the price of oil in the USA (and before you argue that point please remember I live in the Permian Basin area and know the industry). Also all you have to do is listen to Biden's lunacy saying that oil prices depends on what the Saudis and other similar do.
We were OIL INDEPENDENT before Biden's destructive policies. There is no facts you can present that dispute that. It's a FACT. With that we had below $2 per gallon gas in Texas and most of the US. The oil producers and economists in this part of the world will readily tell you that they can make a comfortable living with oil being $1.75 - $2 per gallon. Economists likewise indicate that when you go over $2 per gallon the downstream strain on other goods drive costs up on all goods because they depend on gas for deliveries and in a lot of instances for manufacturing.
We are becoming dependent again on other countries. Is that what you honestly want?
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10-24-2021, 10:39 AM
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Than show where the Executive Branch directly controls the regulation of the price of oil in this country, other than war time productions.
You obviously ignored the link I supplied. And as usual, you don't supply a source that is neutral in position and highly factual.
So, until the laws in this land change, you are going to pay what the cartels want you to pay. And you might feel empowered to rage your tiny voice in saying that it is the Presidents fault. But the fact is, if the price is high, the taps that pour the dollars oil produces in the State of Texas are directly tied to taking care of roads, education and other things in our state. So, let those Californians and the California price do good in our little old Lonestar State.
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When Presidents control the price of oil....gasoline will be a nickel a gallon every election year.
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10-24-2021, 03:54 PM
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When the Biden administration stops the pipeline construction, stops new leases on federal land, stops the development of the Alaskan oil fields, and restricts the ability of oil producers in the Permian Basin to drill then yes, they are controlling a good chunk of the price of oil in the USA (and before you argue that point please remember I live in the Permian Basin area and know the industry). Also all you have to do is listen to Biden's lunacy saying that oil prices depends on what the Saudis and other similar do.
We were OIL INDEPENDENT before Biden's destructive policies. There is no facts you can present that dispute that. It's a FACT. With that we had below $2 per gallon gas in Texas and most of the US. The oil producers and economists in this part of the world will readily tell you that they can make a comfortable living with oil being $1.75 - $2 per gallon. Economists likewise indicate that when you go over $2 per gallon the downstream strain on other goods drive costs up on all goods because they depend on gas for deliveries and in a lot of instances for manufacturing.
We are becoming dependent again on other countries. Is that what you honestly want?
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Your beginning four points are true. One of them requires participation of another country though. With those other three points though, didn't we achieve energy independence under, what others would call, a "Libtard" administration? Sounds counter to what you say. Tell me if that is a fact though because i'm going off memory that this occured in the Obama administration.
Though the economist will tell you a price per gallon, I do know that more wells open up in Texas to produce when a barrel of oil his a certain price for the current economy. Now, I will not claim to know the ramifications on sectors of the economy for certain price stratas on oil. But *I* believe what you say would be true *IF* we had a "fair" open market. Capitalism is great in name only if business fairly follow the rules. Rarely do I see that.
And I don't see how we are going to be dependent on other countries since we achieved energy independence. That pipeline you talked about puts us in that position. And you can always stop dumping of crude by countries that sell under market with help of another branch of government that is on The Hill.
Otherwise, I love our Light Sweet product in our little ol' State.
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When Presidents control the price of oil....gasoline will be a nickel a gallon every election year.
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Ain't that the truth!
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10-25-2021, 09:51 AM
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Energy independence happened during Trump, not Obama. While yes the higher the price the more drillers will tend to drill you have the problem with the my first four points. They can't easily get new permits and leases to drill even on private land so that further restricts gas availability and the price stays high. In order to meet the demand caused by less drilling we are purchasing more from other countries. Energy independence ended due to the four original points. That was Biden's doing (or whoever is pulling his strings).
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10-25-2021, 10:34 AM
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10-25-2021, 04:18 PM
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10-25-2021, 04:34 PM
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But they can and are greatly influenced by his policies.
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10-25-2021, 06:17 PM
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But they can and are greatly influenced by his policies.
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To a lesser degree...yes
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10-25-2021, 10:09 PM
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Energy independence happened during Trump, not Obama. While yes the higher the price the more drillers will tend to drill you have the problem with the my first four points. They can't easily get new permits and leases to drill even on private land so that further restricts gas availability and the price stays high. In order to meet the demand caused by less drilling we are purchasing more from other countries. Energy independence ended due to the four original points. That was Biden's doing (or whoever is pulling his strings).
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My mistake. USA started exporting energy in hydrocarbon form during the Obama administration. I will admit that *I* personally do have a problem with the development with three of your points. And even so with the fourth. Now this is just my opinion. Oil is a limited resource. And the limitation of it is being felt. Big time in Saudi Arabia with their massive fields being harder to attain goals. Probably why they had a lot of smoke and mirrors when they were hiding the true value of the fields when they made a public offering.
So Big Oil, as trusting as they are, needs to continually keep seeking sources to supply consumers who demand cheap energy. And with their record for keeping the concerns of citizens of this world on the good side, they will stop at nothing to achieve their bottom line. (I.e. what Fracking has done polluting water wells where the practice is done and the lack of responsibility of the oil companies fessing up to it.) I like the opinion of the pair that use to be on National Palestinian Radio (as some call it) show Car Talk. Old Click and Clack said the faster we use up oil the sooner we go on to develop alternatives sources that are already there. I'm not saying to turn a blind eye completely on petroleum. It serves many good uses that we can count on for a longer period of time if we go to alternatives (dyes, lubrication, etc.) and not just use as gas.
Moving to alternatives has its problems. We all should know how dirty battery development is currently. But if it is at all possible to learn from our mistakes, we can modify our practices to harvest the metals. And we can start here in the USA since there have been promising results for the search of lithium out west. We can even apply that to coal. There is such a thing as clean coal. But as long the owners of the coal fired power plants keep the old plants great, great grandfathered to keep pumping pollutants, there will never be a closer to green coal plant built in this country because of the price of such.
Whatever path that leads us to the next step in energy development, the future cost of it depends on how we want to proceed. And for the myopic future, I don't mind paying the extra $$$ just so that I can have those bucks stay here in Texas.
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11-20-2021, 10:56 PM
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Your delusion is astounding. You don't deal in facts, you deal in what CNN tells you.
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Woooooo you really got me here with this weak ass reply didn't you??
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11-20-2021, 10:59 PM
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But they can and are greatly influenced by his policies.
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The gas price hike is global genius. So you're telling us that Biden's policies are the reason why the gas price has risen in Tokyo??? Psssshh gimme a fucken break. Do some research for a change.
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