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Old 07-19-2021, 01:49 PM   #16
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And what about the people who got the vaccine and are still getting COVID?

How about those who got the vaccine and are now getting the Delta?

Are they to blame too?

What about those who got Covid and don't need the vaccine?

The stupidity surrounding this virus mumbo jumbo is breathtaking
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:12 PM   #17
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Are y'all plotting to destroy the economy, so you can slip Trump back into Office?
Why would we need to plot? The democrats will do that just fine. Also your analysis on what is driving the market down is pure horsepuckey. I could just as easily say it's additional regulation requirements and uncertainty regarding taxation that is driving down market confidence.

The management class is of course going to blame vaccination levels because for some reason they are DESPERATE to get everyone to take their shots.

Gotta wonder why? Because we bet the curve so much that even if we eliminated ALL restrictions, there aren't enough potential victims to swamp the medical system now. Remember more than a year ago when the government lied to you and said 14 days to bend the curve?

You want to trust the proven liars? Well you already did...so enjoy your clotting and lung issues in the future... I will laugh at your sorry ass and say I guess you shouldn't have trusted the government not to lie to you!
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:14 PM   #18
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And what about the people who got the vaccine and are still getting COVID?

How about those who got the vaccine and are now getting the Delta?

Are they to blame too?

What about those who got Covid and don't need the vaccine?

The stupidity surrounding this virus mumbo jumbo is breathtaking
Maybe we should just blame the fcuking ChiComs? they either did this because they were stupid or because they are evil. I'm voting evil because they couldn't care less if they lost a few million citizens... what's a cog or two in the grand scheme of things?

No they definitley released it on purpose and they let the Democrats KNOW tehy could expect "something" happening. That's why the Senate took up bills to allow mail by voting in January 2019. That's why PA started their vote by mail law changes in the spring of 2019 too. All these changes made "Just" before COVID is released.

You may believe in a lot of coincidences, but I don't.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:25 PM   #19
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:30 PM   #20
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That information should be censored, Bambino.

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Old 07-19-2021, 03:45 PM   #21
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How is choosing not to take a vaccine fascist?

Fascist DPST's have politicized a medical issue - so not wearing amask or not getting a vaccine - regardless of one's own medical history /personal choice - is a sign of political narrative non-compliance - to the fascist DPST's.

See - LA re-instituted masks and lockdowns. Sheriff refuses to comply with orders to imprison those not meekly obeying the Great Gov Newsome and his lackeys!
give a fascist DPST a minuet amount of authority - and they will start putting those of 'non-orthodox ' thought against their bloody walls.
those that have not died of starvation and infectious disease caused by fascist DPST policies for law-abiding Americans.
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Old 07-19-2021, 03:53 PM   #22
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If this pans out... you can view the lawsuit and the whistle blowers affidavit... then it turns out NOT taking the shot is probably the smarter answer

BOMBSHELL: Whistleblower Reveals More Than 45,000 Americans Are Dead from the Jab – RECORD DEATHS Hidden From View; Lawsuit Filed Today

Our Lefty friends will disavow because of sourcing... but the documents are from a lawsuit, so the sourcing will become public knowledge and you can look at the legal docs yourself.

This is gonna leave a mark if true...
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Old 07-19-2021, 03:59 PM   #23
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I am skeptical of that claim - ta.

Vaccine complications and deaths are followed closely by the CDC - still a reasonable medical platform for education and management of public health - IMHO.



https://covid-101.org/science/how-ma...ne-in-the-u-s/

How many people have died from the vaccine in the U.S.?









Published: June 14, 2021



Emily Smith, ScD MPH








Updated June 14, 2021
Over 309 million vaccine doses were given in the US as of June 7, 2021. The vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective. Vaccination is happening under the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history.
How do we know if someone dies after getting a vaccine?
The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). When these reports are received, doctors from CDC and FDA review death certificates, autopsies, and medical records to understand what happened with each person.
How many people have died after getting a vaccine?
Between December 2020 and June 7th, 2021, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who got a vaccine. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented. By way of comparison, getting COVID-19 while unvaccinated poses a grave risk; as of June 14, 2021 more than 599,000 deaths have been attributed to the virus in the US alone.
After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths. Nonetheless, the CDC and FDA will continue to investigate every single report of death (and other adverse events) reported to VAERS.
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Last updated: June 14, 2021, 9:09 pm


I have little trust in any politicized arm of government run by the fascist DPST's.

so far- I think the rate of vaccine caused deaths is very low.

I welcome the data from the 'lawsuit' source you mentioned.

Evaluating the data carefully in open , transparent fashion would be welcomed by me.
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:00 PM   #24
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That information should be censored, Bambino.

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Agreed. FedGovt/FB approved sources only Bambino.
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:02 PM   #25
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Those who advocate censorship for Others
will find themselves the object of that censorship - and cancel culture by AOC's re-education camps.
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:06 PM   #26
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Those who advocate censorship for Others
will find themselves the object of that censorship - and cancel culture by AOC's re-education camps.
Where are these camps?
Find the camp on the map that hurt you........
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:16 PM   #27
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I am skeptical of that claim - ta.

Vaccine complications and deaths are followed closely by the CDC - still a reasonable medical platform for education and management of public health - IMHO.
I did add "if it pans out". Stories like this need a 24 hour rule... will see if it's for real in 24 hours. I lean towards yes since this is a legitimate filing in US District Court of Alabama.

It should be fun to watch the libs sweat if true...
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:35 PM   #28
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And what about the people who got the vaccine and are still getting COVID?

How about those who got the vaccine and are now getting the Delta?

Are they to blame too?

What about those who got Covid and don't need the vaccine?

The stupidity surrounding this virus mumbo jumbo is breathtaking
What about people who buy fire extinguishers...and their house still burns down?
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:39 PM   #29
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Please explain the relevancy.
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Old 07-19-2021, 04:51 PM   #30
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I did add "if it pans out". Stories like this need a 24 hour rule... will see if it's for real in 24 hours. I lean towards yes since this is a legitimate filing in US District Court of Alabama.

It should be fun to watch the libs sweat if true...
You do know anyone can file a suit for any reason. Shit Trump filed 60 or so baseless suits. Just because it’s filed doesn’t give it any legitimacy. And it’s in Bama. That’s should tell you all you need to know.
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