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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Speedy, you're depressing me. When you say that "you know" the recount won't turn up anything, you're saying that you have knowledge that there was nor fraud or irregularities. There were irregularities galore. Whether or not they were fraud is for someone else to decide. But you KNOW this. Shouldn't you say that you EXPECT that no irregularities will show up?
As far as conspiracy theories; 42% of democrats still believe that Trump beat Hillary because of Russian collusion. Yeah, you'll say that the impeachment had nothing to do with the election but I guess those stupid democrats neve heard this. They think it had to do with the election and impeachment was about removing Trump. I've even seen a few college students who thought that if Trump was removed then Hillary would become president. How about that for a never-ending conspiracy theory.
Still working on the numbers but anecdotal evidence shows that Trump got over 400,000 more votes in 2020 over 2016. Now pay attention to this; Romney beat Obama in 2012 with 1,143,051 votes over Obama's 930,669. Think of that, Romney beat the most popular president of our time by over 200,000 votes. Trump comes along in 2016 and gets 1,252,401 or 110,000 more votes than Romney who beat the most popular president of our time in 2012. Then we come to 2020, Trump had 1,661,686 or 520,000 more votes than Romney who (I have to remind you) beat the most popular president of our times. So you tell me (maybe you do believe it) that Hidin' Biden, Sleepy Joe and his running mate Kameltoe got nearly 700,000 more votes than Obama who was the most popular president of our time.
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If you want me to change "know" to "expect" I am fine with that.
You keep making statements like there "were irregularities galore" but offer no proof when asked to do so.
I do think Russian collusion in 2016 did not help Hillary Clinton at all but I don't think it was significant enough to cost her the election. But who really knows?
The turnout in 2020, and even 2018, was unprecedented. And predictible. I said many times prior to the election that Trump would be the reason for a huge increase in voter turnout. Love him or hate him, he motivates people to get off their asses and vote. 22% higher increase in voter turnout overall in the country in 2020 vs. 2016.
I put Arizona as the 4th most likely state to flip from red to blue after Michigan, Pa., and Minnesota. Since 2004 the victory margin for Republicans has decreased. Bush won Arizona by 10% in 2004. Trump won by 3.5% in 2016. Arizona, like Texas, was becoming more blue and a Biden victory in 2020 was not unlikely.
There was actually a bigger percentage voter swing in Texas than Arizona from 2016 to 2020. 3.42% shift in Texas. 3.2% shift in Arizona. Yet no one is complaining about the bigger voter shift in Texas.
It should be rather easy to check voter registration vs. voter turnout and see if anyone voted illegally. I am as interested as you are to see the results of the latest Arizona vote audit.