The New York Times Biden Poised to Raise Taxes on Business and the Rich

[oeb11]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxe...444?li=BBnb7Kz





WASHINGTON — Democrats have spent the last several years clamoring to raise taxes on corporations and the rich, seeing that as a necessary antidote to widening economic inequality and a rebuke of President Donald J. Trump’s signature tax cuts.
© Doug Mills/The New York Times “I want to change the paradigm,” President Biden said Thursday during a news conference. “We start to reward work, not just wealth.” Now, under President Biden, they have a shot at ushering in the largest federal tax increase since 1942. It could help pay for a host of spending programs that liberal economists predict would bolster the economy’s performance and repair a tax code that Democrats say encourages wealthy people to hoard assets and big companies to ship jobs and book profits overseas.

The question is whether congressional Democrats and the White House can agree on how sharply taxes should rise and who, exactly, should pay the bill. They widely share the goal of reversing many of Mr. Trump’s tax cuts from 2017, and of making the wealthy and big businesses pay more. But they do not yet agree on the details — and because Republicans are unlikely to support their efforts, they have no room for error in a closely divided Senate.
For Mr. Biden, the need to find consensus is urgent. The president is set to travel to Pittsburgh on Wednesday to unveil the next phase of his economic agenda — a sprawling collection of programs that would invest in infrastructure, education, carbon-reduction and working mothers and cost $3 trillion to $4 trillion.
The package, which follows on the heels of Mr. Biden’s $1.9 trillion economic aid bill, is central to the president’s long-term plan to revitalize American workers and industry by funding bridges and roads, universal pre-K, emerging industries like advanced batteries and efforts to invigorate the fight against climate change.
Mr. Biden plans to finance that spending, at least in part, with tax increases that could raise upward of $2.5 trillion in revenue if his plan hews closely to what he proposed in the 2020 presidential campaign. Aides suggest his proposals might not be entirely paid for, with some one-time spending increases offset by increased federal borrowing.
“I think what you’re going to see is the administration is going to put a pay-for on the table for at least some and maybe all of the infrastructure plan,” said Senator Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia. “If Team Biden makes a proposal, I’m sure we’ll make adjustments but that’s a good way to start.”
Others in his party, including his own transportation secretary, have pushed Mr. Biden to explore tax plans he did not campaign on, like taxing consumption, wealth or vehicle miles traveled. Mr. Biden has stressed his broad-brush desire to increase the tax burden on wealthy Americans who largely earn their money through inheritance or investment, to fund spending programs meant to help people who earn their money primarily through wages.
“I want to change the paradigm,” Mr. Biden said Thursday during a news conference. “We start to reward work, not just wealth.”
Democratic lawmakers have promised for decades to raise taxes on companies and the wealthy, a desire that kicked into overdrive after Mr. Trump signed a tax-cut package that delivered an outsize share of its benefits to corporations and high earners. But they have struggled to muster the votes for large tax increases since President Bill Clinton signed a 1993 law that included a variety of hikes intended to help reduce the budget deficit. Business groups, conservative activists, lobbyists and donors across the ideological spectrum have largely blocked such attempts.
President Barack Obama campaigned on ending tax cuts for the rich signed into law by President George W. Bush, but after the 2008 financial crisis, he cut deals with Republicans to extend those cuts, before allowing some of them to expire at the end of 2012.
Liberal economists say this year could be different, thanks to the unique political and economic circumstances surrounding the recovery from the pandemic recession. With Mr. Biden’s signing of a $1.9 trillion economic relief bill, financed entirely by federal borrowing, forecasters now expect the economy to grow this year at its fastest annual clip since the 1980s. Republicans and some economists have begun to warn of overheating growth spurring runaway inflation, which could reduce the salience of warnings that tax increases would cause growth to stall.
© Stefani Reynolds for The New York Times Democrats, who have promised for decades to raise taxes on companies and the wealthy, have struggled to muster the votes for large tax increases. Public polling shows broad support, even among many Republican voters, for raising taxes on large corporations and high-income individuals. The most conservative Democrats in the Senate, who hold great sway over Mr. Biden’s legislative agenda, say they favor trillions of dollars in infrastructure spending so long as there is a plan to pay for it.
That includes Senator Joe Manchin III, of West Virginia, who told reporters this week that Mr. Biden’s infrastructure plan was “going to be enormous” and that its costs needed to be covered. He signaled openness to making changes to the 2017 tax overhaul, adding that the benefits in that legislation were “weighted in one direction to the upper end.”
“Where do they think it’s going to come from? How are they going to fix America?” he said, when asked about Republican resistance to tax increases. “I don’t think that’s reasonable.”
Democrats widely share a desire to raise the corporate income tax rate after it was cut to 21 percent in 2017. And they want to raise the top marginal rate for individuals back to 39.6 percent from 37 percent.
But there are disputes in the rank and file, with some favoring Mr. Biden’s plan to set the corporate rate at 28 percent and others preferring a lower one, like 25 percent. There are also questions over which high-earning individuals should see a tax increase.
Mr. Biden has pledged not to raise taxes on people earning less than $400,000. Some of his progressive allies, including Senators Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, have advocated raising taxes on a broader group. Democrats like Mr. Manchin have pushed him to consider additional tax plans that do not solely target the rich, like a European-style tax on consumption, though that type of tax could fall more heavily on low-income Americans than wealthy ones.
Republicans are unlikely to support any plan to raise taxes, leaving administration officials and leading congressional Democrats to hammer out a plan on their own. But absent Republican support in the Senate, where both parties hold 50 seats and Vice President Kamala Harris can break ties, Democrats would need to secure total consensus within their caucus to pass the legislation and use a fast-track budget process known as reconciliation to bypass the 60-vote threshold for ending a filibuster.
Business groups and Republican lawmakers, who supported the 2017 tax cuts, predict that any tax increase will slow economic growth and undermine the competitiveness of American companies. They contend that the economic and wage growth in the run-up to the pandemic prove that Mr. Trump’s tax cuts worked, an argument Mr. Biden’s advisers reject, citing research from the International Monetary Fund and others.
“He wants a massive tax increase and he wants to allocate the tax responsibility in this country, on the basis of class,” said Senator John Kennedy, Republican of Louisiana. “That’s a hell of a way to make tax policy. Sound tax policy is made on the basis of economics.”
Republicans who favor some form of an infrastructure bill have struggled to offer alternative ways to fund such an undertaking, which they argue should be significantly smaller than what Mr. Biden has floated. Some, however, are noodling on tax changes should a bipartisan plan emerge. Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, the top Republican on the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, said this week that her committee would examine changes to the gas tax, or a related tax that also charges a fee to users of electric vehicles, as discussions continue about a funding mechanism.
Many liberal economists say there are good reasons to raise taxes, starting with using those funds to invest in workers and help build economic opportunity. Spending on physical infrastructure, like roads and water pipes, or on programs like education and child care that are meant to help people earn more money could help curb persistent inequalities in income and wealth. The economists also say that tax increases that are properly set up would provide incentives for multinational companies to keep jobs in the United States and not shift profits to lower-tax foreign countries.
“The purpose of the tax system is to both raise enough revenue for what the government wants to do, and to make sure that as we’re doing that we are encouraging activities that are in the national interest and discouraging ones that are not,” said Heather Boushey, a member of the White House’s Council of Economic Advisers.
Key Democrats are trying to bring the party to consensus. The top tax writer in the Senate, Ron Wyden of Oregon, is drafting a series of bills to raise taxes, many of them overlapping with Mr. Biden’s campaign proposals.
“I’ll be ready to raise what the Democratic caucus decides is required to move forward,” Mr. Wyden, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said in an interview.
Mr. Wyden’s plans include big changes to the portions of Mr. Trump’s tax cuts that overhauled how the United States taxes multinational companies, including the creation of a minimum tax of sorts on income earned abroad. Mr. Wyden and many Democratic economists, including some inside the Biden administration, say that the tax was devised in a way that it ultimately incentivized companies to continue moving profits and activities offshore to avoid American taxes. Republican economists and some tax experts disagree and say the law has allowed U.S. companies to better compete globally.
A report from the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation this month showed that multinational companies paid an average U.S. tax rate of less than 8 percent on their income in 2018, down from 16 percent in 2017. The report also found that those companies did not slow their practice of booking profits in low-tax havens like Bermuda.
Mr. Biden, Mr. Wyden and Mr. Sanders have all drafted plans to raise revenues by amending the 2017 law to force multinational companies to pay more to the United States. One of the most lucrative ways to do that, according to tax scorekeepers, would be to increase the rate of the global minimum tax, forcing those companies to pay higher U.S. tax rates no matter where they locate jobs or profits.



Comment -
The ny crimes is usually accurate about DPST/ccp plans - the feeble fiden brigade with lizzie fauxahonts in teh lead) hates free enterprise, and plans to subjugate America to their marxism and government ownership of all means of production. they do love their maduro and teh Venezuela model

They will use economic disruption as a means to destroy the economy - and open America for their tyranny .

[Unique_Carpenter]

oeb,
Yes we already know.
Looks like Buden will take the risk of losing a few seats in congress and perhaps end up with a 2 yr lame duck period.
Only needs to lose 1 senate seat.
In the house its 219 vs 211 with 5 vacancies to be appointed by governors.

So, do any dims want to go on record as voting for these tax increases? Only a zombie would not understand that more tax on higher income folks simply results in less jobs for lower income folks. Its basic cash flow.

[oeb11]

UC - thank U

[Chung Tran]

Fallacy. Higher taxes on the very wealthy and Corporations don't lead to lower employment. Keep kidding yourself.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Fallacy. Higher taxes on the very wealthy and Corporations don't lead to lower employment. Keep kidding yourself.

The ten developed countries with the lowest unemployment rates on this list ALL have very low tax rates on the wealthy and corporations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...mployment_rate

[00 gauge]

So biden says "we want to reward work, not just wealth" ..... so work hard, climb that corporate ladder, earn those positions/promotions, just don't become wealthy or biden will bend you over and fuck you in the ass.....

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Fallacy. Higher taxes on the very wealthy and Corporations don't lead to lower employment. Keep kidding yourself.

Please back this claim up?

It also leads to higher prices for the consumer!

[rexdutchman]

Just higher cost on EVERYTHING , and more unemployment Just the progressive's brilliance

[reddog1951]

Not sure we need higher taxes on the wealthy. Just need to figure out how to get them to pay at least the same bracket rate as ordinary folk.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Fallacy. Higher taxes on the very wealthy and Corporations don't lead to lower employment. Keep kidding yourself.

Nah, what you're quoting the leftist version of "trickle down economics". Both are fallacies.

If you give the wealthy and corporations a tax break, they'll keep the money.

If you raise taxes on the wealthy or corporations, they either leave, hide things, or pass the cost onto their employees and customers.

Either way, the guy at the bottom feels the pinch, and the boss at the top buys another yacht.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

Nah, what you're quoting the leftist version of "trickle down economics". Both are fallacies.

If you give the wealthy and corporations a tax break, they'll keep the money.

If you raise taxes on the wealthy or corporations, they either leave, hide things, or pass the cost onto their employees and customers.

Either way, the guy at the bottom feels the pinch, and the boss at the top buys another yacht.

Come on Gaston. I guess you can take the boy out of Chicago, but it's hard to squeeze that last little bit of socialist populism out of him after he moves to God's Country (Texas).

Here's what happens when you cut tax rates on corporations and the wealthy,

1. More money stays in the private sector, where it's invested in growing businesses and the economy, instead of being flushed down the drain by government.

2. More jobs are created in the private sector. You have more employment and higher wages.

3. Prices the consumer pays for products produced by businesses go down (the reverse of passing the cost of higher taxes onto the customers, in your post).

4. The corporations and the individuals stay in America and invest in America, instead of moving their capital and their domiciles to where they can get better after-tax returns.

5. OK, how about the argument that if the corporations make more money (because of lower taxes), they'll pay higher dividends and buy back stock, instead of investing in growth. Well, so what? The shareholders will invest the money they get from dividends and buybacks elsewhere. That's what keeps the American economy efficient. Mature companies without good growth prospects pay a higher % of their income in dividends, and shareholders presumably reinvest that in companies and businesses that are expanding.

6. And then there's the argument that the companies and individuals will just sit on the cash. Again, so what? The money ends up in banks, who make loans to American businesses and individuals who put the money to good use.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Come on Gaston. I guess you can take the boy out of Chicago, but it's hard to squeeze that last little bit of socialist populism out of him after he moves to God's Country (Texas).

I would rather phrase it as "when you're perpetually surrounded by corruption, you assume it as the default setting."

But you're right, if I had to pick between the two, I prefer lower corporate taxes, both on the principal that I want this country to be an attractive place to do business and bring the jobs here, and also on the concept that taxation is theft.

But the assumption that either "government", "corporations", or "the wealthy" will do "the thing" whichever way the wind blows for the good of society as a whole is something I can't swallow.

Government exists to powercreep their control over people until it becomes totalitarian
Bureaucracy exists to continually feed itself
Corporations exist to maximize their profits
The Wealthy exist through a combination of sheer luck, momentary brilliance, Machiavellian maneuvering, and sometimes murder.

[rexdutchman]

^^^^ Yupper
Sadly like Everything its about Pathological Emotional OUTRAGE pushed by the LSM backing bad ideas

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

But the assumption that either "government", "corporations", or "the wealthy" will do "the thing" whichever way the wind blows for the good of society as a whole is something I can't swallow.

Often when the corporations and the wealthy don't end up doing good for society it's because of government. If you have true free markets, where businesses and people are treated equally, where there's competition, where there's common sense (not overburdensome) regulation, everyone ends up better off. It's crony capitalism that's the problem, not capitalism. And government is responsible for the crony part.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Often when the corporations and the wealthy don't end up doing good for society it's because of government. If you have true free markets, where businesses and people are treated equally, where there's competition, where there's common sense (not overburdensome) regulation, everyone ends up better off. It's crony capitalism that's the problem, not capitalism. And government is responsible for the crony part.

It's the Godfather method.

Bad people make money by harming society. They infect government by bribing and buying officials that would get in their way. They open legitimate businesses to expand their reach, exposure, and to launder their ill-gotten gains, maybe even use those legit enterprises to procure things for their illegitimate ones, reach further into government to wrest control, and then favorably position their legitimate businesses by loosening regulations, or receiving government contracts, minimizing their reliance on the illegitimate business, as it's a potential source of risk.