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Old 04-20-2021, 08:01 AM   #106
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If you say so. I'd call any cop a bitch-ass or pussy-ass directly to their snout. The first amendment is first, because it is first.

Need I remind you?
It wouldn't be the most tactically sound choice in many circumstances, but I certainly support the right to say it.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:05 AM   #107
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Historically, the first amendment did not cover fightin' words. If you were to tell someone that their wife was a whore or you called someone a pig with the intent to anger a reasonable person, you were on your own. No constitutional protection. That was first adjusted in the 1820s.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:08 AM   #108
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:12 AM   #109
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The LSM has been lying for 3 or more months to you about the circumstances the Capital copper died of natural causes ? so why does anyone still believe the msm ?
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:02 PM   #110
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"so why does anyone still believe the msm ?"

Might be because the whole thing is recorded on video. The officers death isn't relevant to the majority of changes those apprehended will face.
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:40 PM   #111
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So why does anyone still believe the msm ?
They don't. The MSM isn't about brainwashing anymore, it's about validating your bias.
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:29 AM   #112
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Do you feel the same bout the antheifa members storming state houses looting and rioting and holding police precincts and neighborhoods hostage?
btw Many many more died during those "protected" protests with millions of dollars in damage!

ABSOLUTELY. As well as the insane plot(s) to kidnap elected officials.
Yeah, this is what many on both sides don't get. I absolutely condemn the violence and oh by the way if a BLM supporter is looting / breaking into a shop and the owner is in there with a gun they have every right to shoot the same as the Capitol officer.


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You'd probably be wrong. The capital building is a honeycomb of offices and safe sites. Tell me again, how many elected representatives soiled themselves on January 6th? How many did the same on the baseball field when a Bernie bro tried to kill republicans?
You watched the video of a barricaded door, with a woman going through the window, and are telling me that there was a crowd going in? You'd "shoot the ceiling"? What the fuck is that going to do? You never shoot to warn - that's asinine. You shoot to stop threats. Period. That's what happened.

If you watched video and thought "oh yeah that looks like a honeycomb of safe sites" then feel free to disregard my response, we simply can't have an intelligent conversation.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:34 AM   #113
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Simple really cant use deadly force on non threatening unarmed person , some fed areas yes but nobody else was killed so?
By your logic the all the rioting and looting should be a lot of 'shot people "
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Old 04-22-2021, 10:15 AM   #114
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Yeah, this is what many on both sides don't get. I absolutely condemn the violence and oh by the way if a BLM supporter is looting / breaking into a shop and the owner is in there with a gun they have every right to shoot the same as the Capitol officer.
Absolutely.

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You'd "shoot the ceiling"? What the fuck is that going to do? You never shoot to warn - that's asinine. You shoot to stop threats. Period. That's what happened.
Correct. Legally there are no such things as "warning shots", because warning shots are a dangerous idea. There are proper shots, and negligent discharges.

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Simple really cant use deadly force on non threatening unarmed person , some fed areas yes but nobody else was killed so?
1.) I can in Texas if it's nighttime, dark out, and I have a trespasser. I don't have to prove that the assailant was armed before I decide to protect myself.

2.) Its easy to kill someone with your bare hands. Even one good punch.

3.) Its even easier to disarm someone and take their weapon from them and use it against them.

So if you're going to physically threaten me, and you're within 20 yards of me, I'm shooting your ass.

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By your logic the all the rioting and looting should be a lot of 'shot people "
Yes, they should have.
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Old 04-22-2021, 10:54 AM   #115
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1.) I can in Texas if it's nighttime, dark out, and I have a trespasser. I don't have to prove that the assailant was armed before I decide to protect myself.
That statement is not true. You can ask Fred Yazdi. I remember this case well since I at one time lived in Avery Ranch. In Texas, at night, trespasser. Serving 20 years.

20-year prison term for man who shot Texas State student

The wife of Fred Yazdi, a 49-year-old homeowner, woke him, saying she thought there was a burglar outside their home. Yazdi grabbed his gun, went outside and fired three shots into Recio as the 23-year-old scaled a fence to flee.

As Richardson sentenced Yazdi on Wednesday to 20 years in prison, the judge explained how Yazdi went too far. He could have stayed inside his house. He could have fired just one warning shot. He could have waited for police, who were just a few blocks away.

“Getting drunk and crashing a car and stumbling into someone’s yard doesn’t warrant a death sentence,” Richardson said. “If Mr. Recio had stumbled into another front yard he would probably still be alive.”


https://www.statesman.com/article/20...20Ranch%20home.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:03 AM   #116
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"Simple really cant use deadly force on non threatening unarmed person , some fed areas yes but nobody else was killed so?"

That group crossed a line. They were not simply rioting and looting. They were attempting to overthrow the lawful actions of the US government (read carefully, I did NOT say overthrow the government). That is not a RIGHT granted to citizens and should not be tolerated as a precedent. Don't forget that the idiots were also dumb (yes, could well prove out dumb when it comes to their defense) enough to construct a gallows on the west side of the capital making them a legitimate threat to the safety of duly elected representatives in the capital, not to mention the Vice President of the United States.
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Old 04-22-2021, 11:37 AM   #117
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That statement is not true. You can ask Fred Yazdi. I remember this case well since I at one time lived in Avery Ranch. In Texas, at night, trespasser. Serving 20 years.

20-year prison term for man who shot Texas State student

The wife of Fred Yazdi, a 49-year-old homeowner, woke him, saying she thought there was a burglar outside their home. Yazdi grabbed his gun, went outside and fired three shots into Recio as the 23-year-old scaled a fence to flee.

As Richardson sentenced Yazdi on Wednesday to 20 years in prison, the judge explained how Yazdi went too far. He could have stayed inside his house. He could have fired just one warning shot. He could have waited for police, who were just a few blocks away.

“Getting drunk and crashing a car and stumbling into someone’s yard doesn’t warrant a death sentence,” Richardson said. “If Mr. Recio had stumbled into another front yard he would probably still be alive.”


https://www.statesman.com/article/20...20Ranch%20home.
What fucked him up is the shooting him while fleeing. That never goes down well.

Also, the author of that article needs to really read up on on warning shots. those are never, ever ok: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2019...adly%20conduct.

I should have specified in my first point "trespasser in my home" trespassing on property is not enough, inside the home, however, is:

https://www.medlinfirm.com/blog/when...ense-in-texas/
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:08 PM   #118
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The whole 9 yards doesn't pass the smell test just saying
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:13 PM   #119
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What fucked him up is the shooting him while fleeing. That never goes down well.

Also, the author of that article needs to really read up on on warning shots. those are never, ever ok: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2019...adly%20conduct.

I should have specified in my first point "trespasser in my home" trespassing on property is not enough, inside the home, however, is:

https://www.medlinfirm.com/blog/when...ense-in-texas/
Agreed. If someone is in your home in Texas the "castle law" takes affect.
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:18 PM   #120
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Confucius say: Man with head up his asshole can only smell his own shit.
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